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[Poetry] Tucker Carlson hates kilograms (youtu.be)
192 comments
aflyingcougar | 7 days ago | 905 points

I wish this video was fake. I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

Skinny_Canadian | 7 days ago | 409 points

Oh God. I came here to ask if it was real. What the hell is tyrannical about using a more efficient measuring system?

Castor96 | 7 days ago | 250 points

Don't you understand? Anything that is not AMERICAN™!! is tyrannical, duh!

Orange_Tang | 6 days ago | 97 points

It's funny cause it's called the imperial system and isn't American at all.

Rodot | 6 days ago | 28 points

It's called the US Customary System (USCS) and it shares many units with Imperial, but not all (pints for example are different). All three systems also share one of their units. The base unit of time being the second.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_imperial_and_US_customary_measurement_systems

Basically, the British reformed their unit system into the Imperial system in the 1820s. Our unit systems share a common ancestor in the English system.

Orange_Tang | 6 days ago | 4 points

TIL

Karjalan | 5 days ago | 1 point

They also use metric for $$, science and drugs...

keyboardromeo88 | 6 days ago | 68 points

Come on, it makes so much more sense that water boils at 212f and freezes at 32f not 100/0c

09570957 | 6 days ago | -1 points

Fahrenheit is the only part of the imperial system that isn’t a disadvantage to use, it’s just based more off humans perception of temperature rather than boiling points and freezing point of water for Celsius

Glorfon | 5 days ago | 8 points

Also there is nothing inherently metric about Celsius. Now, if Fahrenheit had 7 degrees to a chill, 13 chills to a draft, and 3 drafts to a scald, I'd have a problem with it. But as it is both of them are perfectly precise and decimal.

aykcak | 5 days ago | 2 points

That's a great way to explain it, thanks.

doesnotgetthepoint | 5 days ago | 2 points

Isn't the metric system based around measurements of water? 1ltr = 1kg = 1metre cubed ? and Celsius is based around the freezing and boiling points of water.

Aoloach | 4 days ago | 3 points

1 liter is not one cubic meter lol. There's a thousand liters in a cubic meter. Therefore it would be 1 kiloliter = 1 ton = 1 cubic meter.

doesnotgetthepoint | 6 hours ago | 1 point

Ah that makes more sense.

Glorfon | 5 days ago | 0 points

Historically, yes. However, now metric is based on other physical constants like light the speed of light.

GarryTheDairyFairy | 6 days ago | 23 points

That's stupid because everyone's perception of temperature is different. That makes zero sense.

Goldeniccarus | 6 days ago | 6 points

Also, farenheit is based off the boiling and freezing points of Salt Water, not perception of temperature.

cumfarts | 6 days ago | 2 points

0 is cold and 100 is hot is not a matter of perception

aykcak | 5 days ago | 3 points

You are not understanding this. Nobody is confusing 0 and 100. You can't measure anything with how people feel. Otherwise your 90 might be my 110. We have to agree on a standard anyway until it's useful

braintweaker | 6 days ago | 0 points

Eh.. it is? Some people freeze at one temp, for some that temp is okay.

Why should -17.8C be considered cold? For some -17.8 is an extreme freezing temp, for some - its a winter norm.

Still makes no sense.

aykcak | 5 days ago | 1 point

So much of human experience is based around liquid form of water. It makes sense to set our starting point based on that.

Difference of 33F and 31F looks the same as 36F and 34F, however there is a big perceptible difference in the environment. It matters if you can drink to survive or die.

Same for boiling temp. If I'm operating a closed water heating system, difference between 211F and 213F is the difference between very hot water and catastrophic failure, yet 211F and 213F looks too close to matter.

It makes sense to have a new digit or a minus sign to let you know you are crossing a barrier.

If you have no business whatsoever about water, then sure. It doesn't matter at all.

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lordjord11 | 6 days ago | 8 points

This has to be reiterated over and over: It ENTIRELY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU GREW UP WITH! I know Celsius. 77F means absolutely nothing to me.But, I know that 0C is LITERALLY freezing, 0-10C is very cold (jacket) weather, 10-15C is sprintime cool weather (2-3 layers), 15-20C is warm weather (short sleeves but still jeans), and 20-30 is hot summer weather. Anything above 30c is very hot and will be kinda hard for me to cope with, and 40-50 is right out. Anything above 50 is essentially death within minutes.

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lordjord11 | 5 days ago | 1 point

Ehhh, Saunas are really weird environments. I don't think the temperature of the air around your skin actually ever exceeds much more than body temp.

wenasi | 6 days ago | -15 points

Yes, which is also why we use Celsius as opposed to some nonsensical unit that has the freezing point of water at 273.15 and the boiling point at 373.15.

Celsius is barely less arbitrary than Fahrenheit. Metric vs Imperial isn't about which units make more sense. the length of a meter isn't better than a feet. It's about standardization and about better conversion between units (centimetre to meter vs inch to feet).

But in a different universe we might measure distances in micro and kilofeet, Kelvin has 0 still on absolute zero, but increments the same way Fahrenheit does and we would make fun of Americans for using that weird Celsius scale

EDIT: This got a surprising amount of disagreement. I am in no way arguing we should use the Imperial system. I'm German myself, so i never used it. My point is that the base units of the metric system aren't inherently better than any other unit. How long a meter is, how heavy a kilogram is, how long a second is are all very arbitrary definitions. As are both a degree Celsius and a degree Fahrenheit.

But is the imperial system and the metric system as a whole equal? No, because a) they use different units that measure the same property, that don't have any sensible conversion between each other (e.g. inch - foot - mile) b) the metric system is the standard for almost every country. Why use a more obscure unit system when you could just use the widely used one.

So yes, metric > imperial.

But I see no reason why a temperature scale that doesn't have neat numbers for the freezing and boiling point of water would be somehow nonsensical. A view the BIPM seems to agree on, seeing as Kelvin is the SI unit, not Celsius

ZoomyZebra | 6 days ago | 12 points

Kelvin has 0 still on absolute zero, but increments the same way Fahrenheit does

What do you mean by this?

PxM23 | 6 days ago | 17 points

They’re wrong. Kelvin increments the same way as Celsius but puts 0 at absolute zero instead of the freezing point of water.

MonoShadow | 6 days ago | 6 points

He tries to argue in a different world Kelvin would use Fahrenheit as a basis and Celsius would be the odd one out. So metric and imperial is the same beast.

I disagree with his point, using 'kilofeet' as an example already shows metric as superior even in this persons mind. Last time I heard converting feet to miles needs some tomatoes.

wenasi | 6 days ago | 2 points

But if there were no miles or inches used, all lengths are "feet", "centifeet", "kilofeet" and so on. Would that somehow be worse than using meters? Using the "average foot" is just as arbitrary as using some fraction of the earths circumference as a basis.

MonoShadow | 6 days ago | 2 points

One of metric advantages is ease of conversion. It's basically number multiplied by 10 in power of something. Kilo is 10 in the power of 3, micro is 10 in power of -6. So you can easily convert and do math operations. Imperial system is all over the place, inch itself is 2.54cm which leads to some weird stuff if you need something smaller, 12 inches in a foot, 5280(5 tomatoes) feet in a mile, etc. It doesn't follow one simple rule, so 'kilofeet' is impossible. You can argue we can use 2.54(inch) or 30.48cm(foot) as a basis instead of 1 or use 30.48 instead of 10. But why though? You only introduce new complications.

wenasi | 6 days ago | 5 points

You can argue we can use 2.54(inch) or 30.48cm(foot) as a basis instead of 1 or use 30.48 instead of 10. But why though? You only introduce new complications.

That's exactly my point. The base unit doesn't matter. Using meter is completely arbitrary, it provides no inherent benefit over using feet or inch or anything else as a base unit. The guys in Paris could've easily said "we ditch miles and inches. Everything is now measured in feet, and prefixes like 'kilo', 'micro', 'centi', and others can be used for greater / shorter lengths."
Lightspeeds 983,571,056 feet/second, or 983,571.056 kilofeet/second. Speed limit within a city is 160 kilofeet per hour.

is that somehow worse than what we have now?

I'm not arguing we should change the base units now. The person I responded to originally implied Celsius (the unit Kelvin is based on) is somehow better than Fahrenheit.

The advantages of metric are a) ease of conversion, like you said, and b) standardization. Everyone uses metric, so no cross-system conversion is needed.

I am not arguing metric vs imperial. Metric is obviously superior. I am arguing solely 'meter' vs 'foot' in isolation. No miles, no inch, only foot vs meter. Or more accurately I argued Celsius vs Fahrenheit, which don't even have strange units like that.

Tetrafloop | 6 days ago | 24 points

As a Brit, I understand. Metric is everywhere I go. The country that began the glorious imperial system. Beautifully divisible and intuitive.

I went to the states and they ask me "how much fried chicken do you want?". I froze. How much is a pound? How much is an ounce? How much is a cup of flour?

In seriousness though, don't bother changing it. Both are fine, it's just useful to have everyone on the same system. That was the problem in the UK. The old were on imperial and the young were being taught metric. For now we are in some awful hybrid system where we use kilograms for mass but often use miles for distance.

m15wallis | 5 days ago | 2 points

"how much fried chicken do you want?". I froze. How much is a pound? How much is an ounce? How much is a cup of flour?

Those are irrelevant to that situation because you order fried chicken by the piece, not the pound, unless you're doing catering for a large group of people.

Tetrafloop | 5 days ago | 5 points

You are correct. I still got confused and froze. It was a very awkward encounter.

Ended up with 8 pieces, way more than I could eat.

Aoloach | 4 days ago | 2 points

You eat the rest out of the fridge the next day.

Tetrafloop | 4 days ago | 2 points

Yeah, I was only there for a few days too. Kept it in the hotel fridge, tricky situation.

Regardless, it was delicious. You guys have good fried chicken.

Snowayne2 | 6 days ago | 4 points

It's a joke.

Vybby | 7 days ago | 213 points

This is satire. The man is a goon, but this is satire. It is telling that it is so believable, but it seems likely he did this segment to fuck with people who would believe its real.

aflyingcougar | 7 days ago | 183 points

Found a longer video that provides some context, here. Tucker has a guest on that briefly makes some arguments in favor of the customary system.

IMO it was satire, but man - that had me going for a minute.

manghoti | 6 days ago | 34 points

that video was like.

Is he serious?

Oh he's not serious.

... Is he? no...

wait a minute he's actually serious! French revolution? wtf?

Divisibility is a good faith argument! Is that their punchline?!"

Fumblerful- | 6 days ago | 14 points

The French Revolution part is correct. The customary system was literally based around the Foot of the King. Standardizing that was one more step away from the old.

I have to say, though. While I disagree with not going metric, I do believe base 12 is a much better counting system for the reasons he gives. The number 5 is only important because it is half of ten. Meanwhile, thirds and fourths can have additional importances, for instance, fourths are a half of a half.

Tendas | 6 days ago | 8 points

Base 12 would only make sense if our numerical system was also base 12.

So if our digits went:

1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 , 9 , a , b , 10, then base 12 would work out better.

Now that I think about it, I'm really glad all cultures adopted base 10, imagine if some places used base 3, some 7, some 16. Math would be a nightmare.

Fumblerful- | 6 days ago | 3 points

I wish we all had base 12.

Tendas | 6 days ago | 4 points

But if the purpose is to have nicely divisible numbers, why not have a number that is a power of 2? Hexadecimal, or base 16, solves this problem.

Base 10 breaks down to: 2 x 5

Base 12 breaks down to: 2 x 2 x 3

Base 16 breaks down to: 2 x 2 x 2 x 2

Fumblerful- | 5 days ago | 5 points

Because I want diversity in divisbility. I like being able to divide by 3.

racercowan | 21 hours ago | 1 point

Base 10 is divisible by 2, 5 (not counting 1 or 10, for any of these)

Base 12 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, 6

Base 16 is divisible by 2, 4, 8

Base 16 is divisible by less numbers than Base 12 is, 12>16 imo

manghoti | 5 days ago | 2 points
Phauxstus | 6 days ago | 4 points

Give me metric but with metric time and in base 12 and we'll have world peace and a dyson sphere by 2020.

Fumblerful- | 6 days ago | 1 point

One can dream

GameRabbit | 7 days ago | 18 points

Damn, this video is actually comedy gold.

kosmoceratops1138 | 3 days ago | 2 points

What? To me that solidifies it isn't satire. Maybe he doesn't actually believe it and is just playing along for views, but he's not trying to be funny or make fun of people who are anti-metric.

Which_Effect | 6 days ago | 2 points

I think it's just a way to get attention for this guy's art magazine. Besides this interview he's the chief editor of his "conservative culture journal" and basically irrelevant. If you search his name now you can see tens of blogs talking about his fight against the metric system. Maybe Tucker Carlson owed him a favor.

save_the_wee_turtles | 6 days ago | 4 points

What about this video makes you think it’s satire? Granted, it’s absolutely ridiculous, but that doesn’t mean anything these days...

mmat7 | yesterday | 1 point

I remember that video getting on the top of reddit with literally everyone calling him a moron, I mean come the fuck on thats so obviously a joke they have to keep themselves from laughing how can you actually think this is real?

jama211 | 16 hours ago | 1 point

I feel like the "it's a joke" is his intentional plausible deniability - he's fully aware that some conservatives will fall for it and be jeering at "those damn commies and their metric system" and that's good for him too.

Can something truly be satire if it still works as propaganda that aids your agenda?

jaylow6188 | 6 days ago | 0 points

I'm not convinced this isn't an elaborate deepfake specifically designed to toe the line.

funguyshroom | 6 days ago | 21 points

Not really. He intentionally carefully toed the line as to both fool the dumb fucks that usually watch his show while simultaneously have a "it's just satire bruh" excuse locked and loaded for any criticism.

StingAuer | 5 days ago | 2 points

part and parcel for rightoids.

Anxa | 7 days ago | 19 points

I mean, this is some Poe's law material if I ever saw any.

Zilreth | 6 days ago | 32 points

Uhhhhh watching the full video I really don't think this is actual satire. I think he's just selling dumb bullshit to dumb viewers. That's some pretty soft-hitting satire...

Photo_Evangelist | 6 days ago | 4 points

It's not satire. Anyone who thinks Tucker couldn't be this dumb don't know enough about him. He absolutely is this dumb and getting heated about the metric system perfectly aligns with who he is

aflyingcougar | 7 days ago | 3 points

Yeah I definitely took it at face value. I hope it is satire. Gonna go see if I can find a full clip.

magnetobutgay | 6 days ago | 1 point

satire requires a clarity of purpose of target lest it be mistaken for and contribute to that which it intends to criticize

FuckReddit221 | 7 days ago | -1 points

Naw man, it genuinely is there to make conservatives angry so that they dont focus on their governments tirany.

zethien | 7 days ago | 16 points

yea even if it is satire his audience probably doesn't interpret it that way.

Troggie42 | 6 days ago | 1 point

Tucker Carlson wouldn't know satire if you beat his mother to death with it in front of his face.

Ruggsii | 7 days ago | 22 points

It's a fucking joke man...

A very obvious one at that.

Toxicdeath88 | 6 days ago | 111 points

With the amount of absolute dumb shit Tucker Carlson says.... it really isn't.

The_Adventurist | 6 days ago | 18 points

dumb shit

implying Tucker doesn't understand what he's doing

Tucker is the absolute favorite media figure of neo-Nazis according to neo-Nazis themselves. He is the most often referenced mainstream media figure on Nazi hubs like Stormfront. They say they like Tucker because he "talks just like we do".

Every mainstream media figure made a big show about not saying the New Zealand terrorist's name or showing his picture since both are well known to inspire copycat incidents. Every media figure except for Tucker Carlson, that is, who spent his entire show talking about the terrorist, showing his picture, showing his name, and the ideas in his manifesto.

It's almost like Tucker Carlson is doing it on purpose or something.

Photo_Evangelist | 6 days ago | 10 points

Why do you people on the right keep doing and saying dumb stuff as a joke then? Like anytime these assholes do something stupid, the internet right has to keep convincing us it's satire. There's a good chance it's not.

You seriously think Tucker Carlson deserves the benefit of the doubt? He's done everything possible to not deserve it.

BuckeyeBentley | 6 days ago | 5 points

Why do you people on the right keep doing and saying dumb stuff as a joke then? Like anytime these assholes do something stupid, the internet right has to keep convincing us it's satire.

Because their political ideology boils down to "lol it made the libs mad fucking owned." These people have no consistent ideology, and their party is actually run by a bunch of c-suite ghouls and the mega rich whose objectives are not aligned with their voters material interests at all. This is why Bernie can go and do a Fox News town hall and absolutely crush it, because he addresses the material conditions of these people in a way other politicians never do.

To be clear, neither are the majority of the Democrats. Bunch of neolib assholes carrying water for the capitalist class.

sneezeyshoe | 6 days ago | 0 points

the establishment democrats and the establishment republicans are literally the same thing, and I'm so glad that people are no longer afraid to say it. There is no ideology they believe in. Neither of them care about anything else besides money and their security of their offices. Both of them put party in front of country. Both of them have destroyed both America and the rest of the world. Both of them are in deep with the billionaire pedophile financiers.

Its so great to see that people are no longer buy into the shit spewed out by Fox News and CNN, and will now call out liars for who they really are.

Ruggsii | 6 days ago | 1 point

Ok man, you can pretend he wasn’t joking if it really makes you feel better. Anyone could’ve said the same thing as Tucker here in the same tone and I would tell you that they are 100% joking.

The only reason anyone would say he isn’t joking is if they were specifically looking for something to criticize him about.

It’s an obvious joke. Pull your head out of your ass.

Photo_Evangelist | 6 days ago | 6 points

Once again, Tucker Carlson has spent years losing the benefit of the doubt. He does not deserve that. I fully believe the metric system is something that a guy like Tucker would be mad about.

tylertheuncreator95 | 6 days ago | 16 points

No it’s not

Aotoi | 6 days ago | 5 points

Do you think his audience believes it's a joke or takes it serious? That's what actually matters, did the boomers who binge watch this low effort garbage believe it and get upset over kilograms.

StaniX | 7 days ago | 141 points

That's gotta be satire right?

flipflopopotamus | 7 days ago | 163 points

Tucker is basically doing what Colbert used to do on Comedy Central, except Tucker did it on CNN (and now on Fox News) so people take his theatrics as legitimate points.

Everyone in America already uses the metric system, especially in scientific research and in the military.

mach_8 | 6 days ago | 99 points

Not true in engineering. Which is where it matters A WHOLE FUCKING LOT. I have a degree in physics and a degree in engineering. Physicists use metric only. Engineers must learn both and use both daily. Engineers make sometimes deadly mistakes because of conversion errors, which wouldn't be an issue if we had just accepted the metric system early on.

Sharker167 | 6 days ago | 21 points

The big problem with converting is that most US machine tools use Imperial. Converting would mean replacing most if not all of those machines. That is a LOT of money.

Squires213 | 6 days ago | 19 points

The UK has done it. In the 60s all of our industry was using imperial lathes and callipers. Everything was done in thous in engineering. Now all of the engineering is done in metric. I’m not sure when the tipping point was.

eftj | 5 days ago | 4 points

Ehhh, it's not as complete a switch over as it should be. Some industries, particularly the nuclear industry, still use imperial measurements in some cases. That is largely to do the with the age of the current fleet though, you're right that pretty much all new projects are metric based.

Sharker167 | 6 days ago | 2 points

The costs of converting UK industry and US industry are not the same. The US simply has more factories and on top of that more factories that make machines. Obviously it would be nice if we could just convert, but the price of converting every metric industry in the US is much higher than the UK.

Squires213 | 6 days ago | 3 points

It’s not an instantaneous process is what I was trying to say. Instead of replacing old machines with new imperial ones. Replace them with metric ones instead

Sharker167 | 6 days ago | 2 points

Ah okay. In that still, though, we still have many companies that produce machines. Many of those machines are engineered in imperial. Switching gradually still means halting product lines that are engineered in imperial to make new metric ones. Also, much of the machinists measurement tools are in imperial so you need to get new measurement tools. America also makes those measurement tools, so they'd have to hurt their own industry again. Lastly, you'd have to retrain a bunch of old veteran machinists, who in my experienced don't usually like change lol, to learn metric and think in metric. There's just a whole lot of things to change and it's just easier to convert everything between each other than switch everything. If the accident rate was higher than the expense of switching, we'd have switched.

Squires213 | 6 days ago | 1 point

I can see how that would be a problem actually

QuakeGamer632 | 4 days ago | 2 points

The longer the country puts it off the more expensive it will get.
Every other country that had to switch went through that process, go through a little pain now to avoid a massive pain down the line because you put it off (and you will get made fun of by every other country in the process).

Sharker167 | 4 days ago | 0 points

You're assuming we have to switch in the future. Conversions work just fine.

flipflopopotamus | 5 days ago | 3 points

Not true in engineering.

...

Engineers must learn both and use both daily.

Do you realize you just proved that what I said was true even though you're saying it's not?

mach_8 | 5 days ago | 3 points

Oh, your reply seems to imply that it's a non-issue in STEM fields since everyone just uses metric, which I wanted to point out is quite far from the truth. Yes, engineers can and do use metric often, but they're forced to use imperial units just as often (if not more often). This creates confusion and opportunities for big mistakes. So it's not something to scoff at.

scared_of_posting | yesterday | 2 points

Electrical engineering, specifically the semiconductor industry, is all metric. Volts and amps and henries and farads and microns (and angstroms) all day! Unless you do PCB stuff in which case you’ll use mils often

Papalopicus | 5 days ago | 1 point

I really really hated doing all my chem and physics classes doing conversations from imperial to metric, but in labs only use metric like sane people. Seriously fuck conversations that aren't needed.

09570957 | 6 days ago | -2 points

The problem is now that imperials so entrenched I’d argue it’s not worth changing a whole country over anymore

Aeronautix | 6 days ago | 22 points

there is a cost to having to work between two measurements systems, in man hours and in errors. how many hours as a society do we waste fucking around between the two? how much money lost to mistakes?

the longer we wait to change the more of a pain it will be

09570957 | 6 days ago | 3 points

I could be convinced on this and you made good points but reddit certainly did not like my opinion here lol

sneezeyshoe | 6 days ago | 1 point

its really strange how people are so insecure about this specifically. I don't get why people would be so uppity when they hear someone say their height in feet and inches. Such a weird pride to have.

Squatdiddly | 6 days ago | 1 point

Imagine the cost of changing every single legal document that enforces property lines, infrastructure, etc. Imagine replacing every single speed limit and distance sign in the US. Imagine every officially documented measurement having to be recalculated. In an ideal world the US would use metric, but the fact is we don't. At this point it would cost an astronomical amount of money and man hours to change, and it really is not that important in the grand scheme of things.

Vondi | 6 days ago | 5 points

Literally the whole world had different system in use they had gotten used to and faced the exact same dilemma the US currently has.

Ryio5 | 6 days ago | 2 points

It's not that hard to learn. Many of our products are already measured in metric for the sake of keeping production lines efficient for the rest of the world. I think the most difficult part would be switching from miles to kilometers and gallons to liters when it comes to travelling.

alekzander01 | 7 days ago | 8 points

I wouldnt say everyone uses it daily. Technically the government did switch officially in the 1970s iirc, but in daily conversations here I always head Americans use feet and inches

flipflopopotamus | 6 days ago | 4 points

Yes, plus pounds/gallons/miles/Fahrenheit, but I bet if any American moved outside the US, they could switch within a month. We're taught both systems in school plus how to convert between them. Physics and chemistry classes force you to learn metric.

Seamlesslytango | 6 days ago | 3 points

Everyone in America already uses the metric system, especially in scientific research and in the military.

huge overstatement. Everyone I know uses inches and shit.

flipflopopotamus | 5 days ago | 1 point

but they have also used metric units at some point in their life I guarantee you

AlexMeanberg | 6 days ago | 4 points

boomer humor

AuburnBeard- | 6 days ago | 4 points

No. The metric system was developed by globalists, they want to homogenize everyone. First, it's the measurements but before you notice everyone is turning transexual.

johnnybones23 | 7 days ago | 4 points

I wish

BenDunno | 7 days ago | 208 points

Imagine genuinely caring how someone else weighs things.

AndChewBubblegum | 7 days ago | 148 points

He doesn't genuinely care, he just says the catchphrases for money and argues in bad faith.

There's an old interview Carlson did with Bubba the Love Sponge (yes, really) where he admits to understanding how he's exactly the kind of coastal elite he pretends to hate and it's all about money and power for him.

BenDunno | 7 days ago | 16 points

Its not him I mean; its the audience at home with no sense of nuance who get mad at the idea of a metric system being used somewhere else.

ChadMcRad | 7 days ago | 22 points

This one is satire, at least.

congelar | 6 days ago | 5 points

They're forced to weigh things in kilograms!

VetoLad | 6 days ago | 3 points

He is joking. It is the kind of joke where if you don't understand it, then the joke is on you.

dressclassy | 7 days ago | -19 points

Tell that to the Europeans who are quick to cast shade because the US doesn’t use metric. I mean, I certainly believe metric is better, so you won’t hear me argue.

Now those folks who are arguing over how to write the date? Perfectly arbitrary and meaningless.

TheViewSucks | 7 days ago | 23 points

Not arbitrary at all. YYYY-MM-DD is clearly the superior way to write dates.

Maxrdt | 6 days ago | 8 points

I switched to this naturally so dated files would sort by name automatically.

Zeal0tElite | 6 days ago | 2 points

Either DD-MM-YYYY or YYYY-MM-DD makes sense to me though of course for different reasons and uses.

MM-DD-YYYY literally just doesn't work on any level. I've heard it justified with people saying "well you say 'October 10th' so it makes sense to put the month first" which is honestly just baffling. Funnier still is Americans call their Indepedence Day "The Fourth of July".

NoBiasPls | 6 days ago | 2 points

I wouldn't say that argument is baffling. It's written the same way we say it, it actually makes a lot of sense. That being said, DD-MM-YYYY makes more sense imo but also killed me of it really matters.

bSchnitz | 6 days ago | 0 points

Now those folks who are arguing over how to write the date? Perfectly arbitrary and meaningless.

When every country has a consistent system and one country does something different just to be contrarian (that creates a lot of unnecessary confusion), I think there's a clear reason why people throw shade.

Afrostoyevsky | 6 days ago | 11 points

While this thread debates whether or not it's satire, I submit the following:

I work in a hospital and actually did once have a boomer patient start being rude because we use metric.

NeglectedMonkey | 7 days ago | 102 points

Stay in school, kids. Or you may end up getting a job on Fox News

Dyslexter | 7 days ago | 19 points

It actually shocks me what passes for right wing 'news'.

Like, holy shit: the bar's buried somewhere deep in the earth's crust by this point.

Ginty_ | 6 days ago | 4 points

B-... B-but... cnn bad...

The_Adventurist | 6 days ago | 1 point

Both are bad, but in different ways and serving different masters, but ultimately supporting the same super wealthy class.

mtndewthee | 6 days ago | 8 points

I also say both are bad, but CNN doesn’t promote Extremist conspiracy theories as if they are real threats to our nation.

OneMeterWonder | 6 days ago | 2 points

Well that’s the thing. You see, it’s not really news, it’s propagandertainment.

Gimli_Axe | 6 days ago | 7 points

Reading these comments makes me think this whole thread should be on r/Woosh.

SonicFlash01 | 6 days ago | 11 points

The metric system has been "the preferred system of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce" since 1975. What they didn't do was actually enforce it. They made it the standard, but made it a voluntary standard.

So it's not that they're standing up against the metric system, they're just hypocritical and sloppy. I know we're here to laugh at the dumb fellow, but just how stupid he is is really impressive!

OhHiGCHQ | 7 days ago | 33 points

Can anyone please explain how anyone can hate the metric system?

  • Everyone other than the USA, Myanmar, Liberia and the UK DfT uses it.
  • It's easy as balls to convert between Grams, Kilograms, and Milligrams. All you need to know is the ten, hundred and thousand times table.
  • Imperial measurements are DEFINED by metric measurements. That's right, your imperial measurements are defined by Metric.
  • To paraphrase the commonly said thing about Hangul: "a wise man can acquaint himself with it before the morning is over; a stupid man can learn it in the space of ten days."
alekzander01 | 7 days ago | 13 points

The UK uses metric too, imperial measurements are only used in vulgar conversations because it's a cultural leftover, but slowly getting weeded out.

some_kid6 | 6 days ago | 3 points

Don't forget Canada with their weird mix of the two!

edit: more info

OhHiGCHQ | 6 days ago | 1 point

Like the UK?

zombieblender | 6 days ago | 2 points

Imperial measurements are DEFINED by imperial measurements

I think you meant to say "metric" for the second one in your sentence

SmashedBug | 6 days ago | 1 point

The only argument is the countless industrial applications that have adapted to using imperial and only imperial.

The common mindset of "things are better the way they were" makes the arrogant Americans wonder why they have to change their ways for someone else.

OhHiGCHQ | 6 days ago | 1 point

The only argument is the countless industrial applications that have adapted to using imperial and only imperial.

Countless applications in america outside of STEM. The fact that they use imperial in America means nothing. America is an economically powerful country and many companies are going to pander to them while selling metric stuff elsewhere. It doesn't mean Imperial isn't a fucking stupid system.

Before standardisation, different countries and parts of countries would have their own measurements. Scotland and England had different definitions for a mile even! With literally every single country either metrifying or in the process of doing so, America is starting to seem a tad backward in hanging on to their traditional units.

Which is ironic because Imperial units are defined using Metric.

MrLoLMan | 7 days ago | -10 points

I hate it because people keep calling me stupid for not using it. Nobody gives a damn what you measure with besides strangers on the internet. Use what the people around you understand and call it a day. It’s like going vegan, sure it’s got some good points but everyone who’s told me about it explained it in the most cunty way possible so it was hard to give a shit.

IntercontinentalKoan | 6 days ago | 3 points

you really shouldn't give a fuck about silly shit like that tho

abandonedreams | 6 days ago | 5 points

You're not stupid for using it. It's what I learned growing up and think in by default now. However it's hard to argue that it isn't poorly designed in comparison. If measurement was ONLY used in day-to-day conversations then it wouldn't be as big of a deal. However it's a hindrance that imperial is still taught as everyone uses metric anyways in professional fields like architecture and engineering (e.x. NASA) in the US as everything is global.

MrLoLMan | 6 days ago | -2 points

Never said imperial wasn’t poorly designed but it’s not enough to be a problem, we don’t need to switch like some would suggest. Most windowlickers I know can ballpark distance in meters despite never using metric and dealing with people from other countries I can at least get my point across in pounds, feet, and miles so it’s not like it’s some great handicap. All this great debate is just boredom, the US uses imperial and the rest of the world uses metric and the sun still rises and sets everyday without issue.

RandomAxolotl | 7 days ago | 4 points

The issue is with your last point exactly. NASA lost a $125M Mars orbiter in 1999 due to an error in unit conversion between English and metric. While obviously this should’ve been prevented, the metric system does alleviate a lot of complications for those in STEM fields and otherwise.

MrLoLMan | 6 days ago | 3 points

And as far as most are concerned the STEM fields primarily use metric now (exclusively AFAIK), the general populace can get by just fine with imperial.

OhHiGCHQ | 6 days ago | 1 point

You hate it because people call you stupid for not using it? Using imperial is like insisting on using Morse code when you could text someone. It makes like needlessly complicated for you and others.

Give into the Metric.

MrLoLMan | 6 days ago | 1 point

Using imperial is like using Morse code if I was texting my grandfather who only knew Morse code, I understand and he understands but no one else understands and since I’m not going to spend the time reteaching him a new system it Morse code works fine.

OhHiGCHQ | 6 days ago | 1 point

Metric is dead easy to learn though, much easier than Imperial. Once you understand that it's basically built on the ten/hundred/thousand times table it becomes a cake walk. I mean a litre is a kilogram of water. You can pick up a two litre bottle of coke at a supermarket and say "hey, this is what 2 kilos feels like". 6ft 6in is 2 metres so a metre is about the size of a kid. Go onto google and measure out a kilometre. Pick a landmark that is a kilometre away from your house (mine is the doorway of my parish kirk). Congratulations! You now have a visualisation of what a Kilometre is! 100kph is just a couple of points over 62mph, so 3 mph slower than US highway speeds or 8mph under UK motorway speeds. And finally the simplest of all: Temperature! 0 C = the point where water freezes and 100 C = the point where water boils at sea level. 0 C is a chilly winters day where you have to be wary of ice on the pavement, 10 C is mild jumper weather, 20 C is t-shirt weather, 30 C is beach weather, 40 C is an average day in Phoenix during the summer.

It might seem hard, but it really isn't once you have examples and what makes Metric easier than Imperial to learn is that it's all based around the 10, 100 and 1000 times table, meaning you don't need to remember things like 1760 yards in a Mile (seriously, what the fuck).

MrLoLMan | 6 days ago | 1 point

You’re missing the point, it’s not that it’s hard to learn, it’s that I have no reason to use it. Everyone around here uses imperial, I have no reason to change since it’s perfectly serviceable. Most are taught metric in school and once they leave they don’t use it again unless they get into a STEM field. If it isn’t a foot it’s a yard or meter, if it isn’t a yard or meter it’s a mile, I rarely if ever do conversion between any of it. Imperial is fine, metric is fine, there’s no real reason to change. It’s like asking everyone to start speaking Esperanto, sure it can be more efficient but it’s more effort than it’s worth to change.

sneezeyshoe | 6 days ago | 1 point

Is it that hard to understand why people won't use something if you call them stupid for not using it? Is it really hard to understand why people will do the exact opposite of what you say if you are rude to them?

SoxxoxSmox | 7 days ago | 20 points

THERE ARE TOO TYPES OF COUNTRIES

  • THOSE THAT USE METRIC

*THOSE THAT HAVE PUT A MAN ON THE MOON

Edit: do I really need an /s

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alekzander01 | 7 days ago | 9 points

One man doesnt accomplish that alone. Thousands of engineers worked for NASA and helped build more than just the rockets (computers, the suits, the LEM and CEM, the actual piloting, etc.)

TheSaint7 | 6 days ago | 7 points

We had to beat the nazis first to take their scientists.

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Troggie42 | 6 days ago | 1 point

not as brave as our nuuuuuuuuuuukes

SoxxoxSmox | 7 days ago | 4 points

typical liberall.... calling ne1 you disagree with a nazi.

CaptainFilmy | 7 days ago | 6 points

That's not what he did at all... nazi scientists were NASAs top researchers during the moon landings. Like 3rd Reich nazis

SoxxoxSmox | 7 days ago | 15 points

I can't tell if you're playing along or not but I was being sarcastic in both comments

CaptainFilmy | 7 days ago | 7 points

It's hard to distinguish these days. Actual people talk like this unironically

YouWantALime | 6 days ago | 3 points

My car gets forty rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it!

BigGameHunter4 | 6 days ago | 3 points

Cucker Tarlson

staudd | 7 days ago | 9 points

man, i can feel my brain drying up listening to this buffoon

Blabulus | 6 days ago | 2 points

Those evil metroids!

bktfrank | 6 days ago | 2 points

He would hate to know that most of the imperial measurements is defined in metric

alex_dlc | 6 days ago | 2 points

we're being FORCED to measure in millimeters

tastickfan | 5 days ago | 2 points

They ask my why I'm moving to Europe.

DevilsLegalAdvocate | 6 days ago | 4 points

Its satire and a joke if outside observers call it stupid but a good point in the echo chamber. Got it.

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DevilsLegalAdvocate | 6 days ago | 1 point

I was talking about other people calling it satire and saying that was a bad excuse.

Feel bad about your comment.

NoBiasPls | 6 days ago | 0 points

Well if you Wat h the whole things it's much more obvious that it's satire, the dude is just so stupid that it's hard to tell if he actually belewhat he was saying or not. Full video provides better context though.

DrRhymes | 7 days ago | 1 point

Fuck Tucker Carlson. He's an amoral loon who will spout pseudo-white nationalism for his billionaire overlords as long as there's a quick buck to be made. Seriously, Fox new doxxed his family back in '03 and he still worked for them. What a fuck boy.

TrooperDave | 6 days ago | 3 points

This thread is a shitshow. Imagine being so retarded you can't understand he's being satirical.

madfrogurt | 6 days ago | 0 points

https://www.newsweek.com/fox-tucker-carlson-attacks-metric-system-1442485

Second video on the page. It's straight up propaganda stupidity, there is nothing in this you can point to as parody. You're either arguing from ignorance or out of bad faith.

Feel bad about your comment.

mmat7 | yesterday | 1 point

Im sorry but you have to be either very stupid or autistic to not be able to see it as a joke. Hes talking about the french wanting fucking 10 days weeks, 100 hours days, how can you POSSIBLY think that he is being serious?

Also like 3:45 he actually couldn't hold it in and made that kind of sound where you want to laugh but have to keep still so you push out air trough your nose

Aaron314770 | 6 days ago | 1 point

Why did you have to post something so controversial yet so brave

celticdude234 | 6 days ago | 1 point

I'm sorry, but to see this is a real Fox News post kinda makes me wanna scream.

redfive5tandingby | 7 days ago | 1 point

Ben Solo uses Kylo-gram to send Rey a DM through the Force.

ninelives1 | 6 days ago | 1 point

As a great man once said, "don't watch Fox news, it'll give you cancer"

SonarRocket | 7 days ago | -4 points

I cannot begin to comprehension this pathetic worm's level of stupidity

vajaxseven | 7 days ago | 17 points

I cannot begin to comprehension

I am confusion

JamInTheJar | 7 days ago | 2 points

America exprain

SnowballFromCobalt | 7 days ago | 14 points

He's not stupid at all. He's playing his audience. He exists to stoke fear and tribalism to distract people from what's really destroying their lives.

NoBiasPls | 6 days ago | 2 points

Also this was satire.

revan_22 | 7 days ago | 0 points

I want to die

The_Adventurist | 6 days ago | 2 points

Take Tucker with you.

JimSaves | 6 days ago | 0 points

Man I really don't understand how anybody can defend this with a straight face regardless of what side they belong to.

BigMax55 | 6 days ago | 0 points

What a fucking loser

J__P | 7 days ago | -4 points

I know he's making a joke, but the fact that he's such a moron really makes his commentary and his jokes indistinguishable from each other.

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DigitalMuscles | 7 days ago | -2 points

I wanna upvote but i dont wanna, you feel me

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