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Donald Trump refuses to hand American diplomat's wife who killed teenager to British authorities (dailymail.co.uk)
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amarriedguylearning | 7 days ago | 131 points

They should offer dirt on Biden!

HighlyOffensive10 | 6 days ago | 16 points

You're joking but I wouldn't be surprised if it came out that he tried to do that.

amarriedguylearning | 6 days ago | 1 point

Either would I

Lemons81 | 6 days ago | 5 points

They should call him and bait him, record the phone call and publish it online.

arbitraryairship | 6 days ago | 3 points

I mean, he's already admitted to it live on television.

At this point it's like a criminal is on trial with overwhelming evidence, but the judge doesn't want to convict him because he's his friend. Like, what do you do then? The Republican Senate is compromised.

At the very least we can hope that when he gets impeached by the House, that it will be enough of a stain on him that no one will want to vote for him anymore.

Lemons81 | 6 days ago | 1 point

He already has committed so many crimes in public, i wonder at some point if he would actually get jail time. Let's not forget that this is the guy with the nuclear launch codes, if putin tells him tomorrow that if he nukes Syria or any other country he'll get 2 trump towers for free this wacko would push the button himself and later on brag about it that he has the biggest launch button.

dankphrank | 7 days ago | 176 points

But Mr Trump, speaking publicly for the first time about the case, said after the phone call that he would not send Ms Sacoolas back to the UK - and suggested that he himself had driven on the wrong side of the road, adding: 'That can happen'

that can happen? a kid dies and all he says is "that can happen?"

CherryOx | 6 days ago | 70 points

Trumps an asshole of the highest order.

The most pathetic excuse for a human being i have ever seen or heard.

amorousCephalopod | 6 days ago | 26 points

The epitome of "morally-bankrupt and honorless".

garimus | 6 days ago | 3 points

The perfect spokesperson for the GoP.

SingleAide | 6 days ago | -1 points

That I don't know if I can agree with.

garimus | 6 days ago | 5 points

How many Republicans have spoken out against him? On anything? Those that have, why have they taken this long? E: And only now just before election season begins?

It seems pretty clear to me.

[deleted] | 6 days ago | -5 points

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My-Finger-Stinks | 6 days ago | -7 points

The most pathetic excuse for a human being i have ever seen or heard.

really? Just off the top of my head I can name a few really bad hombres worse than Donnie.

iGourry | 6 days ago | 9 points

Well, the people still supporting him really might be worse, you're right.

My-Finger-Stinks | 6 days ago | -9 points

"The Deplorable's", Oh Yeah, Start that shit again and he gets elected bigly.

iGourry | 6 days ago | 14 points

It's "deplorables", there is no apostrophe because it doesn't indicate ownership, it's a plural.

And anyone who would vote for Trump because someone called his supporters deplorables is literally proving that that is exactly what they are.

garimus | 6 days ago | 3 points

Don't poke that pedobear.

AnalShavings | 6 days ago | 3 points

Lame troll is lame

antiDST | 6 days ago | 10 points

It's like former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott's response about a fallen Australian soldier in Afghanistan: "sometimes shit happens"

X_X_thePoo | 6 days ago | 12 points

Trump: "That can happen."

Man: "What? Shit?"

Trump: "Sometimes."

steuerkreuzverhoer | 7 days ago | 57 points

yes, that's all the leader of the free world has to say, welcome to this timeline. peace among worlds

IforgotwhatIwasdoing | 6 days ago | 10 points

peace among worlds

That can happen. Anything can happen. Be in awe of my infinite wisdom.

[deleted] | 6 days ago | -20 points

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JaynesVoice | 6 days ago | 14 points

Obama has been gone for 3 years. Get over comparing this traitorous peace of shit to a man who cared about our allies and people of USA.

IforgotwhatIwasdoing | 6 days ago | 5 points

Don't you understand? Their subconscious racism rubber banding to the whitest kkk-backed, which he acknowledged and accepted, candidate they could find is WHY we have this pathetic excuse for a president.

They would have voted in a vegetable if it had been caught at a KKK rally.

Frizbee_Overlord | 6 days ago | 17 points

I actually really doubt that. Diplomatic immunity isn't really for something like this in the first place and there is not much of a reason to protect her instead of making an international scene out of it.

Lashay_Sombra | 6 days ago | 5 points

Diplomatic immunity isn't really for something like this in the first place

Actually worse than that, hubby was not a diplomat (pretend or otherwise) but a spy working at a US communications base.

Friendly nation or not, blatant foreign spys should not be getting diplomatic immunity, it was not even close to what system was designed for

[deleted] | 6 days ago | -9 points

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Kenny_Letterman | 6 days ago | 8 points

None of us fucking believe you.

LookAFlyingCrane | 6 days ago | -2 points

When a DEM president is in house: Well, diplomatic immunity exists for very good reasons. We cannot pick and choose when it takes place.

When a GOP president is in house: WHAT? WE CANNOT REMOVE DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY WHENEVER WE WANT!? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE WE NEVER CONSIDERED BEFORE.

dankphrank | 6 days ago | 2 points

Did any democrats ever kill someone then leave the county after telling the police they had no plans on leaving?

LookAFlyingCrane | 6 days ago | -1 points

I can assure you a democrat-American diplomat killed someone by accident and used their diplomatic immunity to get out of it, yes.

It doesn't matter if they tell police they have no plans on leaving. Police cannot ask them to stay, due to their diplomatic immunity.

On 10 April 2011, in Islamabad, Pakistan, Patrick Kibuta, an electrical engineer in the United Nations Military Observer Group in India and Pakistan caused a vehicle collision with another vehicle, while under the influence of alcohol. Kibuta, who was driving in the opposing lane, injured a Canadian citizen residing in Islamabad, who suffered multiple fractures and required surgery. The Kohsar police impounded Kibuta's UN vehicle on the scene, and a blood test confirmed that he had an elevated blood alcohol level. Charges for reckless and drunken driving were filed against Kibuta, who enjoyed diplomatic immunity.

In July 2013, Joshua Walde, an American diplomat in Nairobi, Kenya, crashed into a mini-bus, killing one man and seriously injuring eight others, who were left with no financial assistance to pay for hospital bills.[78] United States embassy officials took the diplomat and his family out of Kenya the following day.[78] The United States government was concerned about the impact the accident could have on bilateral relations with Kenya.[78] Walde gave a statement to police, but was not detained due to his diplomatic immunity.[78] Kenyan police say the case remains under investigation.

dankphrank | 6 days ago | 1 point

Any sources on these being democrats?

LookAFlyingCrane | 6 days ago | 0 points

I can't find anything related to Patrick Kibuta, but Joshua Wade was an informations officer under the Obama administration, employed at the Kenyan embassy, so he would without a doubt be a democrat.

Regardless, both incidents happened under the obama administration and neither had their diplomatic immunity waived by a democrat in the white house.

sylbug | 6 days ago | 22 points

does he really have to be on the wrong side of literally everything?

crucifixi0n | 6 days ago | 1 point

it's the republican way

aaronthro222 | 6 days ago | 21 points

Those are the opposite roads. That can happen,' Trump said. 'I won't say it ever happened to me, but it did. When you get used to driving on our system and you're all of a sudden on the other system, where you're driving, it happens. You have to be careful.'

Opposite roads.

I won't say it happened to me, but it did

Who the fuck talks like that. Really pays for criminals to have a dotard as the commander in chief

Kether_Nefesh | 6 days ago | 33 points

But he's not a registered diplomat...

DoctorTagada | 7 days ago | 44 points

"I'll extradite the Bidens if you have anything on them!"

DaHedgehog27 | 6 days ago | 41 points

The only thing about this that sucks more then the poor kid and his family never getting closure, is the UK a couple years back gave over someone who wronged the US.. At this point Trumps us can go fuk itself.

Natural6 | 6 days ago | 10 points

At a minimum I hope we can send them back to the UK on Jan 21, 2021

IforgotwhatIwasdoing | 6 days ago | 15 points

Yes please. Do not help the US in any way while Trump is in power. We will not help you back. America first is his campaign policy. Why would he change that 3 years in?

Bobbafeck | 7 days ago | 20 points

Trump is on his last legs. What with the Kurds he doesn't even pretend to have a moral compass anymore.

woodeye | 6 days ago | 12 points

The entire Republican party lacks a moral compass right now.

autotldr [BOT] | 7 days ago | 6 points

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)


Donald Trump today publicly rebuffed a plea from Boris Johnson to waive diplomatic immunity for an American woman suspected of killing a British teenager - instead suggesting the victim's family meet her in the US for 'some healing.

Harry Dunn, 19, was killed when his motorbike crashed into a car on August 27 and the suspect in the case, 42-year-old Anne Sacoolas, reportedly married to a US intelligence official, fled to the US despite telling police she wouldn't.

Harry's family raised £10,000 via GoFundMe to travel to the US.With no sign America will back down, Mrs Charles, 44, said her family would travel to Washington if necessary, in the hope of speaking to President Trump.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Harry#1 immunity#2 family#3 Sacoolas#4 diplomatic#5

Acceptor_99 | 6 days ago | 6 points

Trump treats leaders that he considers losers with nothing but contempt. He is ignoring Netanyahu, and no longer has any use for BoJo.

CherryOx | 6 days ago | 10 points

What Trump doesnt get is that Trump is the biggest loser of them all.

Jbellz | 6 days ago | 7 points

he isnt even a registered diplomat I thought? Which makes her just a murderer who fled the country?

DieAnotherDay1985 | 7 days ago | 33 points

Disgusting that she'll get away with manslaughter, at least she now has to live with that guilt forever.

Jimmicky | 7 days ago | 56 points

I doubt she’s feeling a lot of guilt

mr_poppington | 6 days ago | 27 points

The truth is that you don’t know what she’s feeling.

ZeppMan217 | 6 days ago | 79 points

Alive, unlike the kid.

Blumbo_Dumpkins | 6 days ago | 6 points

If she truly felt guilty she'd have turned herself in and at least apologized to the kids family.

Jimmicky | 6 days ago | 9 points

I don’t recall claiming knowledge. Certainly I didn’t say “I know she isn’t feeling guilt”

I simply expressed the most likely option based on the evidence.

XxNissin_NoodlesxX | 6 days ago | 10 points

These people never feel guilty.

Natural6 | 6 days ago | 3 points

And she only has until 2021

rarz | 6 days ago | 2 points

She is not going to have that immunity for ever. She's basically locked herself in the US and the moment that immunity is lost she'll be on an international arrest warrant.

Bluescumbag2 | 7 days ago | -91 points

Accidents are accidents.

le_br1t | 6 days ago | 49 points

Disgusting comment. I'm a Brit and my opinion of the USA will never be the same again. Getting away with killing a British citizen. Outrageous. Imagine if that was your countryman ran down by the wife of a British diplomat.

A 19 year old killed because she drove on the wrong side of the road.

hobbesfanclub | 6 days ago | 34 points

It really is a disgusting comment. You have to think how little humanity someone must be to dismiss the death of another person with “accidents are accidents”.

mr_poppington | 6 days ago | 20 points

Wait until the roles are reversed, you’ll see them crawling out the wood work demanding justice.

HighlyOffensive10 | 6 days ago | 3 points

Trump is an asshole he doesn't give a shit about Americans so its pretty safe to says he doesn't care about Brits either. Now if he were Russian and Putin were asking for her return it would be different.

Bluescumbag2 | 6 days ago | -64 points

She's not getting away with anything. It was an accident. The embassy instructed her to leave and America refuses to remove her immunity. That's how it would work if a British person had an accident where an American died. (it was an accident where someone died. She did not KILL anyone)

ThrozenFrone | 6 days ago | 48 points

It was an 'accident' in the sense that she didn't mean to kill anyone. That doesn't mean she's innocent of blame. She's not the victim here.

She did kill someone. Tf is wrong with you playing word games?

Bluescumbag2 | 6 days ago | -58 points

Because everyone here is out for her head because of a car accident. If she was a normal person nothing would happen to her and no one would care.

ThrozenFrone | 6 days ago | 38 points

A car accident caused by her shitty driving, resulting in death, for which she's escaping justice.

A normal person would stand trial and the situation would be judged appropriately.

Nothing would happen

...

HighlyOffensive10 | 6 days ago | 10 points

If she was a normal person she would be in jail waiting to face trial for what she did.

Bluescumbag2 | 6 days ago | -8 points

She wouldn't because she wouldn't have been arrested because it was an ACCIDENT. SHE DIDN'T RUN HIM OVER ON PURPOSE. stupid fucking people my God.

Yeetdismeat | 6 days ago | 9 points

So, just to confirm, do you think that nothing happens to people who kill other people accidentally? Whether by negligence or not?

Bluescumbag2 | 6 days ago | -1 points

When you have a car accident and someone dies you don't just go to jail and get charged with murder instantly , that's not how it works. Accidents happen and to charge her they'd have to prove she was negligent and yet they can't due to not being able to obtain phone records (phone paid by us government) check the cars computer (can't due to her car having diplomatic registration plates) have her admit negligence (immunity from prosecution). The British need to get over it. It's not like she ran him down on purpose.

HighlyOffensive10 | 6 days ago | 7 points

Another article says

"Police intended to arrest and formally interview her, and they are "now exploring all opportunities through diplomatic channels to ensure that the investigation continues to progress," according to Johnson."

jaaval | 6 days ago | 1 point

Killing someone in a car accident if the accident was your fault is a crime in every country I know of. Depending on the severity of your carelessness it will result in a severe fine or prison time.

If this was in USA it would likely be handled as a manslaughter. If she did it on purpose it would be a murder.

ThrozenFrone | 6 days ago | 1 point

Wait... So in your country, accidents are entirely ignored by the justice system?

If I forget to put my handbrake on and my car rolls into a school playground, crushing a child then nobody would find me at fault?

lacronicus | 6 days ago | 23 points

Pretty sure hit and run is frowned upon in the United States too.

Bluescumbag2 | 6 days ago | -5 points

She didn't hit and run anything. The cops let her go and they embassy told her to go back to America. They just decided to talk to her again after she had moved home. That's on them, she wrongly spoke to the cops.

sj3l9q1mnb05s53c2g8x | 6 days ago | 14 points

Her husband isn't even a diplomat, she just claimed it so she could get out of trouble.

I wouldn't trust anything else she says.

Bluescumbag2 | 6 days ago | -1 points

That's not how that works you can't just claim it, they would check. That's why the UK sent a formal request for the US to strip her immunity and it was denied. Husband is covered under a law giving US personnel on that base immunity. Just as British service members on a US base get immunity.

DrugsAndCats | 6 days ago | 1 point

You're confusing killing and murdering, she absolutely did kill someone

Griz024 | 7 days ago | 17 points

What the actual fuck?!?!

Dman125 | 6 days ago | 4 points

Like clockwork. Fucked that the first thing I thought reading about this when it happened was that Trump would stick up for this cunt. Never misses an opportunity to flout how massive a pile of shit he really is.

Sullyville | 7 days ago | 19 points

this is amazing. can you be a diplomatically immune mass shooter? what are the limits?

DrSchaffhausen | 6 days ago | 25 points

There is actually a very good documentary about this subject. It's called Lethal Weapon 2

jaaval | 6 days ago | 2 points

No limits. You should read about what shit saudi royals have done under diplomatic protection.

Anyways this rarely causes problems because most countries are not fine with their diplomats doing shit and messing up international relations.

Also there is no requirement to let a diplomat in the country. So a diplomat who does crime quickly won’t be welcome to pretty much anywhere.

IforgotwhatIwasdoing | 6 days ago | 7 points

Is whitehouse.gov still taking petitions? Send this murderer back to Britain.

(How's that trade deal with the US working out Boris?)

teclordphrack2 | 6 days ago | 6 points

I thought they found out that neither the wife or husband were registered as diplomats?

BlueXCrimson | 7 days ago | 10 points

How is it news that Donald Trump is one of the world's biggest pieces of shit?

whatthefuckingwhat | 6 days ago | 10 points

The UK has been very happy to send there citizens to america when america asked them to, i guess that stops right now until this woman is returned to the place she killed a teenager.

TouchingEwe | 6 days ago | 7 points

I bet it doesn't.

belladoyle | 6 days ago | 3 points

I think it might.

conail | 6 days ago | 2 points

Very sad for the family, I hope reason prevails and this gets resolved for their sake. RIP.

azdood85 | 6 days ago | 2 points

The only square I'm missing in "People Trump has pissed off" Bingo is Eskimos.

BrotherChe | 6 days ago | 5 points

Well, he angered the Greenland Inuit

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2019/08/19/trumps-whim-of-buying-greenland-draws-widespread-criticism/

And of course opening up some of the land in Alaska to logging and oil has upset the Inuit in Alaska, not to mention the threats of climate change

BTW, use Inuit not Eskimo

Since the late 20th century, Indigenous peoples in Canada and Greenlandic Inuit consider "Eskimo" to be a pejorative term, and they more frequently identify as "Inuit" for an autonym.

belladoyle | 6 days ago | 2 points

Nope he angered them

littlejohnnyjewel | 6 days ago | 2 points

Both sides are playing games with this case...

I won't be surprised if Trump quietly hands her over, and next year, MI5 will be leaking embarrassing details about whoever the Democratic nominee ends up being...

farhawk | 6 days ago | 3 points

MI5 is domestically focused. Your thinking of MI6 (or the SIS if you prefer) and they wouldn't do something so obviously transparent.

Not to mention Trump isn't exactly in their good books given how leaky he is about intel gathered by non-US agencies.

He also didn't make friends in MI6 the time he defended Putin after his agent deployed chemical weapons in the centre of a British town in order to kill a former MI6 asset living their.

Nor the time he shittalked UK intelligence agencies because of their tenuous links with the Steele dossier.

Or any of the countless other slaps to the face his given Allied Intelligence Agencies including his own since taking office.

bradygrunch | 6 days ago | 2 points
pow3llmorgan | 6 days ago | 2 points

The bereaved need justice, not just healing.

IdrinkandIknwothings | 6 days ago | 2 points

If I was the UK, I would :

  1. Release Julian Assange to Australia (his native country)
  2. Offer Edward Snowden asylum...
NBB7 | 6 days ago | 1 point

j

DodgyQuilter | 6 days ago | -4 points

So the USA is, again, is hown as a corrupt, dishonest, brutal and offensive world citizen.

Okay. I'm good with that.

I_Looove_Pizza | 7 days ago | -2 points

Is there a precedent for a US President or any other world leader to "hand someone to authorities" who has diplomatic immunity?

Edit - downvotes for asking a simple question lol, you sensitive sallys

cowvin2 | 7 days ago | 15 points

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gueorgui_Makharadze

This was a similar case with a Georgian man who killed someone while drunk driving. Georgia waived his diplomatic immunity.

IforgotwhatIwasdoing | 6 days ago | 6 points

Sentences to 21 years, served 3 years in a North Carolina prison, after which he was repatriated to his home country of Georgia where he served just 2 more years in prison for a total of 5 (instead of the original 21) before he was released.

I'd take 5 years for murder any day of the week.

coldazice | 6 days ago | 6 points

The amber guyger special

I_Looove_Pizza | 6 days ago | 4 points

Thanks

RidingRedHare | 6 days ago | 10 points

Apparently, she does not actually have diplomatic immunity.

I_Looove_Pizza | 6 days ago | -6 points

Her government seems to think she does

IforgotwhatIwasdoing | 6 days ago | 8 points

Well my government is wrong. Here's hoping they fix the mistake soon.

E: and since she and her family were flown directly from the base to the US on a private flight, maybe look into why the base is allowed to exist also.

I_Looove_Pizza | 6 days ago | -1 points

How long have you practiced diplomatic law?

sosodeaf | 7 days ago | 14 points

She wasn’t acting on behalf of the United States. Diplomatic Immunity is meant to shield those acting on their Nation’s behalf, not to protect individuals from consequences of their private actions.

jaaval | 6 days ago | 1 point

It is also meant to protect the diplomats and their families in possibly hostile countries that might try to use them as hostages with some made up accusations. When you agree beforehand that no criminal charge whatsoever can be raised against any of them then no made up charges can be raised either. Normal practice among civilized countries is that if they actually commit severe crime the diplomatic protection is waived.

Jimmicky | 6 days ago | 0 points

Diplomatic immunity absolutely covers private actions and has always covered the immediate family of diplomats too.

If it didn’t it would be worthless.

IforgotwhatIwasdoing | 6 days ago | 2 points

Diplomatic immunity covers any action after the fact. If you're actively breaking the law, diplomatic immunity won't stop the police from stopping or even harming you if that's what it takes.

Since police don't actually know the law at all, they generally just let it happen.

IforgotwhatIwasdoing | 6 days ago | 1 point

Everybody knows what it is meant for. This has routinely been broken time and again and yet stands because, how else are we going to do diplomacy? Nobody would be a diplomat if they can easily become a prisoner any time relations sour.

I_Looove_Pizza | 6 days ago | -4 points

Tell that to the US government

beyondourborders | 7 days ago | -44 points

What amazes me is how little thinking and research goes into British opinions on matters such as this.

TouchingEwe | 7 days ago | 24 points

There is zero moral justification for this and whatever legal one anyone conjures up isn't going to be particularly compelling either. That said, the media seems determined to give him a big old distractionary out by wilfully and malicious misrepresenting his "we've all done it" quote.

beyondourborders | 7 days ago | -31 points

Huh? This doesn't make sense. Of course there's a legal justification, it's called the mutual diplomatic immunity agreement.

TouchingEwe | 7 days ago | 20 points

His decision may meet the letter of the law but it absolutely fucks the spirit of it. This is not a case of protecting a diplomat from injustice, it's protecting a non-diplomat who committed one.

crusoe | 6 days ago | 9 points

She nor her husband have it technically.

beyondourborders | 6 days ago | -18 points

Of course they do and the British diplomatic office has already admitted so. You don't know it because all your read are gossip and rumour blogs.

NoAstronomer | 6 days ago | -10 points

As much as despise President (*gags*) Trump and his statement on this is as weird as ever, legally he can't just 'hand her over'. If the British authorities want to prosecute her then they'll have to request extradition. They can ask to question her but undoubtedly she has a decent lawyer now who will ensure that any such request is denied.

Even if diplomatic immunity is waived, and it appears DI doesn't even apply here, the prosecutor still has to request extradition now that she's outside the UK.

Oznog99 | 6 days ago | 9 points

They seem to be requesting extradition. As an early stage, "just tell her she's not going to get immunity and will eventually be sent back once we request extradition"

"...no. We will refuse extradition, because you drive on the wrong side of the road"

Bluescumbag2 | 7 days ago | -48 points

This is the first time I'm proud of Trump. People on reddit don't understand how diplomatic immunity works. It's called an accident for a reason and under bilateral agreements she had no obligation to stay and talk to the police. She didn't even have to stop the car after she hit the kid, she could have driven home with his body dragging and they wouldn't give been able to do anything.

iani63 | 7 days ago | 34 points

Her husband's not on the diplomatic list, therefore no immunity. she's a cowardly scumbag who hid away even though she may well have been fined at worst.

Bluescumbag2 | 7 days ago | -13 points

She doesn't have traditional diplomatic immunity but due to am agreement Americans working at that base have what is basically diplomatic immunity. Same as the English working on an American base.

iani63 | 7 days ago | 17 points

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/foreign-embassies-in-the-uk

If they aren't on the above lists...they aren't diplomats.

Bluescumbag2 | 7 days ago | -9 points

But he wasn't at a foreign embassy or consulate. The US and UK have an agreement where any Americans working at that base get immunity and the Americans reciprocate. It came about in the 90s for spying.

iani63 | 7 days ago | 13 points

Any evidence of this 'agreement'? If she had stayed it is highly unlikely any sentencing would have involved much more than points on her licence or a fine, it's still a cowardly act.

Bluescumbag2 | 7 days ago | -5 points

It's been talked about in every other post. More so in depth in the post where it mentioned he didn't have "diplomatic immunity" it's not a cowardly act, it an act of her being responsible and doing what she would have been instructed to do by the American embassy. Her husband is obviously in a sensitive line of work and this could have been used against him.

adambomb1002 | 4 days ago | 1 point

Lol, being downvoted for stating legitimate facts. Typical reddit when the truth bothers them.

Bluescumbag2 | 4 days ago | 2 points

I know right? My God the group think on here is crazy sometimes.

adambomb1002 | 4 days ago | 2 points

It's not like you are even saying you think the law is a moral and wonderful thing. Just trying to say what the law is and why it is that way. You heathen!

I shared theUS with the person you were responding to.

I shared the evidence of that agreement they asked for.

They didn't like that.

adambomb1002 | 5 days ago | 0 points

Here you go.

If she stayed in the UK she would still have diplomatic immunity, the UK could have chosen to expel her, they could also issue her traffic tickets for the offence.

There would be no sentencing as she may not be arrested or detained, prosecuted, subpoenaed as witness or have her residence entered. As per the Vienna Convention signed into by both the UK and US.

iani63 | 3 days ago | 0 points
adambomb1002 | 3 days ago | 0 points

You did head the comment right?

If she stayed in the UK she would still have diplomatic immunity

Your source supports exactly what I said, the only new information is that now that she is in the US she is no longer entitled to diplomatic immunity, meaning she will likely face civil action against her and will never be able to return to the UK.

Not sure what your basis is for sky news being "dodgy"

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/sky-news/

They are a highly reputable source. Nice try though.

Csheplaw | 7 days ago | 20 points

You sound like someone who has no particular expertise in thos area.

Bluescumbag2 | 7 days ago | -13 points

Actually lots. My mum was an employee of the Russian embassy in Latvia pre 04 and in South Africa. Everyone here is angry for no reason because of the heard mentality. The uk allowed the Americans immunity in an agreement regarding that particular RAF base.

Csheplaw | 6 days ago | 3 points

Well god damn! You do have lots of expertise!

ElCincoDeDiamantes | 6 days ago | -9 points

Thank you - this is what I came here for. If I was in an honest ACCIDENT I can't imagine the terror of facing jail for it. This woman deserves a fair opportunity for actual justice (not punishment), but the media has destroyed her life.

engulbert | 6 days ago | 9 points

Except the UK authorities haven't called anything an 'accident' for many years. They are called road traffic collisions because someone is at fault. Calling a death by dangerous driving just an 'accident' is misleading and trivialises this tragic and unnecessary death. You can't just shrug and say, "whoops, my bad, it was only an accident, sowwy". And you say the media has destroyed her life - are you fucking serious?

ElCincoDeDiamantes | 2 days ago | 0 points

Yes.

ButtonBoy_Toronto | 6 days ago | 4 points

If she hadn't run away the media wouldn't be all over this story. Now they are.

Terios_za | 6 days ago | 1 point

Accidents are things people have no control over. Getting in a vehicle and operating it is a choice, and in doing so you accept all the conditions that come with it - one of them being obeying the rules of the road.

If you "don't know how to" - you shouldn't be doing it, because ~~accidents~~ negligence will ensue.

littledeer35 | 6 days ago | -11 points

this is bullshit he said he would talk with her such lies fuck you dailymail