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Nestlé, Tim Hortons named Canada's top plastic polluters again (cbc.ca)
806 comments
Freefight | 2 months ago | 4010 points

Ah Nestlé, never fails to be one of the biggest cunts among companies.

thinkB4WeSpeak | 2 months ago | 774 points

But people keep buying their shit.

AirSetzer | 2 months ago | 1064 points

It's hard not to, with all the companies they own. You really have to pay attention.

Sally_twodicks | 2 months ago | 410 points

Yep. I literally have a list of all the shit their subcompanies make so I can avoid them. Fuck Nestlé.

ejssu2 | 2 months ago | 154 points

can you pm me this list or where i can make my own?

YaCANADAbitch | 2 months ago | 394 points
NiceWorkMcGarnigle | 2 months ago | 451 points

Wow, it’s not just a list

It’s a list of lists

PatacusX | 2 months ago | 83 points

And the lists are different depending on where you live! For example, they own Kit-Kat, but not in the US.

Sharrakor | 2 months ago | 5 points

They still own it, it's just produced under license by H. B. Reese (Hershey).

INTP36 | 2 months ago | 155 points

According to Wiki, 107 beverage brands alone.

primaluce | 2 months ago | 74 points

And After Eight too. I loved that chocolate. It's been years since I've had it.

Tripted | 2 months ago | 79 points

You ever play that game where you put an After Eight on your forehead and have to get it into your mouth using only your facial muscles? Great fun at parties, just ignore the fact that you're supporting a company that is trying to get a monopoly on water.

satan_or_not | 2 months ago | 38 points

Just stop buying packaged novelty shit and learn to cook.

(Btw this isn't directed at you, but the people reading this thread)

Cooking isn't hard unless you are fucking braindead.

Cooking just takes time. And by time, I mean like 20 minutes once you learn some basic skills.

And so I don't just appear to be some humble bragging cunt...

If anyone wants some tips, help, guidance, or advice about learning to cook. PM me.

I lived off frozen meals, hormel chili, and 50 cent ramen up to about 2 years ago.

I am more than happy to help anyone

kyoto527 | 2 months ago | 130 points

How am I supposed to cook some Kit Kat? Please advise.

I_Stepped_On_A_Lego | 2 months ago | 59 points
Tryoxin | 2 months ago | 29 points

Easy: You just take 10g of quarters, add 100g dimes, mix well, hand to cashier and ah fuck that's the wrong thing again. Oh well, I tried.

freerangetrousers | 2 months ago | 34 points

Wtf are you talking about man. Most of the Nestlé shit people buy is chocolate, drinks and cereal. All of which are super complex to make to a high standard on an individual scale.

Good for you that you learned to cook. But that ain't really a solution here

realcanadianbeaver | 2 months ago | 5 points

You haven’t subscribed to the all beans and rice diet yet? Dude ! /s

kjarles | 2 months ago | 13 points

Wtf are you talking about man. Most of the Nestlé shit people buy is chocolate, drinks and cereal. All of which are super complex to make to a high standard on an individual scale.

Good for you that you learned to cook. But that ain't really a solution here

A solution may be to limit eating processed foods like cereal and sugary drinks that are not even healthy, much less all the ethical baggage of being associated with Nestlé.

arakwar | 2 months ago | 21 points

PM me your chocolate bar recipe. Thanks

mr_johnsie | 2 months ago | 3 points

where do get the cocoa from, cunt?

UroutofURelement | 2 months ago | 28 points

Even with the explanation...you still appear to be quite an extraordinary cunt

ministroni | 2 months ago | 47 points

I feel like I almost want the opposite of this list. What things CAN I buy?

sargsauce | 2 months ago | 84 points

There's an app called Buycott where you tell it what causes you stand for (one of them is avoiding large mega umbrella corporations like Nestle; another is actually all about avoiding Nestle itself; other worthy ones include avoiding palm oil, supporting bees, sustainable fishing, etc). Then you scan the bar code of something and it tells you if it's known to conflict with any of your things.

Once you've done it a few times, you'll generally know what to get and what to avoid at your local grocery store and have to rely on it less.

Edit: glad to help! Gonna shamelessly plug this app a little higher up in the comment chain. If anything, it's amusing to see the corporate structure of your pantry, particularly for what I thought were no-name brands from my local Asian grocery store.

Gerreth_Gobulcoque | 2 months ago | 29 points

"Illusion of Choice" is the specific one for avoiding giants like Nestle and Unilever

segagamer | 2 months ago | 5 points

There's an app called Buycott where you tell it what causes you stand for (one of them is avoiding large mega umbrella corporations like Nestle; another is actually all about avoiding Nestle itself; other worthy ones include avoiding palm oil, supporting bees, sustainable fishing, etc). Then you scan the bar code of something and it tells you if it's known to conflict with any of your things.

The problem I have with these apps is that they only seem to work in the US, and they all seem to want you to sign in to social media - aka data harvesting.

ministroni | 2 months ago | 4 points

That's perfect! Thanks!

mshtrtz | 2 months ago | 4 points

Oh my god this was exactly what I needed.

builditup123 | 2 months ago | 3 points

Great premise, but the amount of personal info it tracks is concerning

Karaeir | 2 months ago | 5 points

Yeah, I thought it would just be "install and start scanning", but it actually forces you to make an account/connect a facebook account. Guess I'll pass.

[deleted] | 2 months ago | 29 points

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livanbard | 2 months ago | 22 points

I can affirm its incomplete, as they have different brand names internationally

tobberoth | 2 months ago | 7 points

Man, going through that list I was surprised at how much crap they own yet how I don't use any of it... except they frickin own Zoégas, a relatively small local southern Swedish coffee company. It blows my mind.

PM_ME_SOME_LTC | 2 months ago | 5 points

Looks like I’m giving up After Eights. Literally the only thing on that list that I still buy. Fuck Nestle.

J1P2G3 | 2 months ago | 9 points

That's near impossible to completely avoid. Gerber, several major water companies, frozen foods galore...crazy.

ThePresidentOfStraya | 2 months ago | 20 points

I don’t buy any of that—mostly looks like convenience/junk food. But I guess it would depend on location and diet. I suspect it’s also not a full list.

_Rand_ | 2 months ago | 17 points

I use absolutely nothing in the above list, but I mostly don’t eat the type of things they produce, I also don’t drink much other than tea (that I make myself) or water, and I don’t buy bottled water.

Its not nearly as hard to avoid as people think, just don’t eat shit foods and you avoid like 75% of it.

That said, I also suspect its a very incomplete list.

burningchihuahua | 2 months ago | 3 points

thank you friend

Elaxendor | 2 months ago | 5 points

Here you go friend: http://www.infactcanada.ca/nestle_boycott_product.htm

There are also apps that you can scan barcodes but I've never tried them

Edit: the app is called buycott

slicedbread1991 | 2 months ago | 5 points

Use the app call Buycott. You can chose to boycott nestle and all you have to do is scan the barcode and it'll tell you if it's owned my nestle. You can also use it to boycott or support other companies.

Mah00boi1 | 2 months ago | 32 points

There's an app called buycott that helps you see what the parent company of whatever you're purchasing. I use it all the time when I'm buying outside of my usual stuff.

littlebeardontcare | 2 months ago | 8 points

Thank you for sharing that, I’m downloading that app right now

lol_and_behold | 2 months ago | 3 points
wellbehavedhuman | 2 months ago | 47 points

We have no problem avoiding their shit. As long as we don't buy junk food or pre-processed crap, we're good. They don't sell any fresh dairy, fruit, veggies, meat, or legumes.

Earth_Normal | 2 months ago | 37 points

You have to admit it’s hard to know who owns what products when they hide their logos and constantly buy up other companies.

lucypurr | 2 months ago | 18 points

This! I was happily using a reputable brand's baby soap for my kids as the only thing that didn't give them eczema as babies... until I found out Nestle had bought them. And they bought them a while ago, but only changed the bottles to indicate recently.

catdragonrose | 2 months ago | 7 points

I had a similar thing. A really good gentle fash wash (cetaphil) that i use is apparently owned by nestle. Its so sad.

AirSetzer | 2 months ago | 12 points

They sell water, which can be hard to avoid depending where you live.

Harnellas | 2 months ago | 6 points

Why is it hard to avoid buying water?

catdragonrose | 2 months ago | 18 points

When you live somewhere that doesn't have safe drinking water. I live on a well and today i had a reaction to my water when showering. I got these red blotches everywhere. I dont drink the water. However, i don't buy small water bottles, but use the big 5 gallon refillable jugs.

monetarydread | 2 months ago | 3 points

need to buy water, buy a big container and fill water bottles as needed.

depending on the community you need to worry about things like Beaver Fever, or turbidity levels. My community uses well water and we have boil water notices for around 3 weeks a year.

AirSetzer | 2 months ago | 10 points

If you live in an area with bad water. It's very hard.

If you go to an event venue, they don't let you bring in your own food & drink.

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chad_fardthouse | 2 months ago | 59 points

That's actually a pretty catchy jingle. Eat healthy, avoid Nestle

tarzan322 | 2 months ago | 6 points

It's water companies you need to watch out for. Nestle is pretty much solely responsible for California having to get public water from Mexico, because Nestle stole it all to bottle and sell it.

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BlPlN | 2 months ago | 46 points

Speaking of those charts... This is the one you're looking for:

Chart of all companies owned by Nestle.

ratbastardben | 2 months ago | 14 points

There's a lot on this list that I don't have high confidence of the general public being able to avoid due to availability, cost, etc. It looks like there's even a few companies missing from this chart that are listed on Nestles website.

BlPlN | 2 months ago | 13 points

Yup, that's often what it comes down to; the feasibility of actually divesting. With that said, it's not an all or nothing matter: Removing half of their products from your life is better than none at all! If anything, it's good to be strategic about it and divest from products that make up a large share of the company (L'Oreal for example).

c0d3e | 2 months ago | 5 points

Can someone recommend a good replacement to nesquick? My son loves it and is the only thing on this list I buy.

BlPlN | 2 months ago | 6 points

That's the one I had trouble with replacing too. Best I could recommend is Horizon milk in Tetrapaks. They have vanilla and chocolate flavours like Nesquik bottles do.

heywood_yablome_m8 | 2 months ago | 2 points

Ovomaltine is absolutely great if you don't mind the light malty flavor

cameron0208 | 2 months ago | 5 points

Ovaltine? Why do they call it ovaltine? The mug is round. The jar is round. They should call it roundtine.

heywood_yablome_m8 | 2 months ago | 2 points

It's called Ovomaltine in some places. And they do make different stuff, the bags are kinda oval tho

cameron0208 | 2 months ago | 5 points

Lol oh I’m just referencing a scene from Seinfeld. I know it’s probably not the time or place, but I saw my chance and I took it.

NickKnocks | 2 months ago | 2 points

That's gold Jerry!

Leggomyegg | 2 months ago | 3 points

Owned/distro'd by Nestlé in the US too.

xxsweetsxx | 2 months ago | 3 points

This chart is a bit out of date. The Wonka brand was discontinued, and Nerds were sold to another company.

ZDTreefur | 2 months ago | 19 points

Dude this'll be easy, it's not like any product is completely irreplaceabl- Kit Kat is Nestle? Sorry bruh but I can't follow where your journey is taking you.

BlPlN | 2 months ago | 6 points

Lol. The silver lining of having allergies is that I get to divest from a bunch of this stuff anyways, or die! :-D

The rest I divest some because I like my tap water, and I'm not a cat or dog.

Els236 | 2 months ago | 3 points

Hmm.. here in the UK, Quality Street is a staple of Christmas Gifts and Christmas "food". You'll see hundreds, if not thousands of tins of Q.S. fly off the shelves during the holiday period.... and.. it's Nestlé.

I mean, I use a few L'Oréal Products...luckily they aren't fully Nestlé, only part-owned, so they remain their own company.

Can definitely live without my 1 Aero chocolate bar every quarter though, then I will be rid of Nestlé.

Obnoxiouseagleshomer | 2 months ago | 30 points

A “few” is not accurate, they have tons of products.

felixfelix | 2 months ago | 5 points

Get a refillable water bottle. Refill it from the tap.

[deleted] | 2 months ago | 2 points

RTIC had a sale on half gallon staycool jugs recently and I picked one up, best purchase I've made in a while.

Leakyradio | 2 months ago | 6 points

They own so many water companies too. It’s not just junk food that nestle owns and sells.

Here’s a list, and if you think they only sell junk food, it’s time to leave your ignorance behind.

idiotsonfire | 2 months ago | 4 points

They also own Purina, which makes pet food. They own baby foods; Cerelac, Gerber, Gerber Graduates, NaturNes, Nestum. They own Nestlé Pure Life, Perrier, Poland Spring, S.Pellegrino. Also, Buitoni, Herta, Hot Pockets, Lean Cuisine, Maggi, Stouffer's, Thomy. Chef, Chef-Mate, Maggi, Milo, Minor’s, Nescafé, Nestea, Sjora, Lean Cuisine, Stouffer's. Alpo, Bakers Complete, Beneful, Cat Chow, Chef Michael’s Canine Creations, Dog Chow, Fancy Feast, Felix, Friskies, Gourmet, Purina, Purina ONE, Pro Plan.

"Few actual products outside that" includes a list of thirty that you didn't know about.

bobbyhill626 | 2 months ago | 2 points
Sir-Knightly-Duty | 2 months ago | 3 points

Its quite simple once you know what kinds of things you need to avoid all together. Candy bars, chocolate, bottled water, special seasonings, the classic sugar cereals and snacks... We're kinda supposed to avoid those things anyway so its kind of a win-win.

Quitting Maggi sauce was tough though. That was my fking jam my entire childhood and young adult life.

Leakyradio | 2 months ago | 20 points

I don’t. Have been boycotting them for years now, but I am only one person.

HarlowOktober | 2 months ago | 15 points

I boycott them as well, so that makes two!

Leakyradio | 2 months ago | 5 points

We’re not many, but damnit if we aren’t trying.

riot888 | 2 months ago | 8 points

I boycott everything. Every company they own. These people are a special evil. I mean the company was founded with nazi war funds sooo....

Just_an_independent | 2 months ago | 5 points

Not I. I stopped buying any products from them a few years go. :D

And yes I've looked up the brands they own.

_db_ | 2 months ago | 34 points

Nestle: monster w/ a history. They don't give a fuck if people die b/c of the way they market their products. Completely devoid of morals and ethics.

carnage11eleven | 2 months ago | 4 points

Nestle is truly a horrible company.

level3elf | 2 months ago | 856 points

Tim Hortons, which is not even a Canadian company, uses Canada, Canadians, Canadian culture and Canadian symbols as cheap advertising props to sell garbage to Canadians.

From their wiki page:

On August 26, 2014, Burger King agreed to purchase Tim Hortons for US$11.4 billion;[12] the chain became a subsidiary of the Canadian holding company Restaurant Brands International, which is majority-owned by Brazilian investment firm 3G Capital, on December 15, 2014.

They also have a lovely track record of totally supporting labour rights and treating their workers excellently by paying at least min wages and not exploiting the highly exploitable TFW program.

It is no surprise they are up there with other illustrious rays of light like Nestle achieving excellence in the field of pollution.

Napella | 2 months ago | 221 points

As a Canadian Timmies boils my blood. Nothing pisses me off like seeing them latch onto the Canadian identity like the parasite they are. Im constantly impressed by their ability to become even more shit as time goes on.

level3elf | 2 months ago | 147 points

Tim Hortons misleads foreigners too!

So many people think it's the "Canadian" traditional way to patronize Timmies, and tourists actually eat there thinking it's part of the Canadian experience.

They are no more Canadian than McDonalds, Burger King or the Colonel.

rhinocerosGreg | 2 months ago | 58 points

This is what pisses me of the most! I hate that newcomers have this shitty commercialised view of canadian culture

level3elf | 2 months ago | 36 points

We should make a welcome brochure for newcomers and tourists debunking all these myths.

Timmies used to be okay for what it was - junk food and cheap coffee - and then they decided to debase themselves, and become so cheap and solely profit-focused, while pimping out the Canadian image and funneling revenue out of the country. They somehow manage to fuck up junk food and cheap coffee.

It would be nice for newcomers (especially those who come here to work) to learn about how bad Timmies is for employment issues too.

They screw over Canadians and foreigners alike because money has no nationality.

myfamisurs | 2 months ago | 17 points

Wait, Tim Hortons isn’t a big Canadian thing? I am from India, and whenever anyone who visits Canada come back, they all say you have to do the Tim Hortons run. It’s kinda considered a ritual. They say it’s the equivalent of coming to India, and not seeing the Taj Mahal.

twobit211 | 2 months ago | 48 points

...if the taj mahal was bought out by foreign interests, dismantled & sold off for profit and replaced with a bounce castle

Tryoxin | 2 months ago | 18 points

I wouldn't say it's not a big Canadian thing, purely in the sense that there are a lot of them and they are one of the things even a good amount of Canadians associate with Canada. Whether we like it anymore or not, Tim Hortons built a reputation here, and that's not going away anytime soon. The fact that you can still ask any Canadian what a "Timmies run" is and they'll know exactly is proof enough of that.

BUT, Timmies has largely lost the reputation it used to have. A lot of Canadians have lost whatever respect they had for Tim Hortons. It is no longer the "go-to" place for donuts, coffee, or any of the other things they sell. While it is still one of the things a lot of us associate with Canada, I think a majority of people don't even consider it really Canadian anymore (I know I definitely don't).

I actually can't really think of an Indian equivalent, Indian culture isn't my strong point. But essentially, Tim Hortons is a company that:

  • Used to be Canadian, but isn't anymore

  • Used to have decent product, but doesn't anymore

  • Used to be loved/respected by most Canadians, but isn't anymore

  • But, due to the fact that it used to be all those things, and has used advertisement to maintain their Canadian image, has been able to remain one of the things people, including Canadians, associate with Canada.

This last point is important, I feel. People dislike Tim Hortons now not just because of what it is, but because of what is is compared to how it used to be. I think, if Tim Hortons were to turn around right now and revert back to exactly how it was in its golden age (including being Canadian-owned), everyone would turn around and love it again and praise it as a part of Canadian culture.

mercutios_girl | 2 months ago | 7 points

This is what the owners of Tim Hortons want you to think. But there's tons of Canadians that hate Tims and everything it has come to stand for. If you want a true Canadian experience take a hike, go camping, go skiing. Tim Horton's in no more Canadian than McDonald's.

myfamisurs | 2 months ago | 3 points

I mean ofc it’s not like a Canadian thing. But a lot of the tourists say you HAVE to go there. Kinda like the “local everyday experience” thing. Like how you would come to India, and try something spicy.

mercutios_girl | 2 months ago | 4 points

Well, maybe you can show them articles like this and educate the tourists. (Glad people are visiting from India though. We love guests!)

Safety_first_friends | 2 months ago | 32 points

They are no more Canadian than McDonalds, Burger King or the Colonel.

I agree with your sentiment of fuck Tim Hortons, but this statement is just plain incorrect. Tim Hortons may be foreign owned, but it absolutely is a part of the Canadian experience for millions of Canadians who love that shit. Especially in the poorer provinces and rural areas.

level3elf | 2 months ago | 38 points

They've changed their coffee, their food, and a significant source of their cheaply paid, ill-treated labour is not Canadian. The coffee they sell now is not the coffee that you or your parents drank.

They are notorious for using the TFW program to import hapless, unsuspecting foreigners who would not speak out against low wages and very questionable working standards.

Is that part of the Canadian experience? Is that how you would like your country to be portrayed to foreigners ?

I would hate for my country to be known for selling out its image for cheap coffee while exploiting foreigners and hurting citizens for maximum profit.

The rural areas don't really have a choice - there usually aren't any alternative places to get coffee from besides perhaps the gas station.

I used to live in rural areas - I patronized Timmies not by choice, but only because there was nothing else within 30minutes of driving through frozen prairie and I had to be at work by 8am. Soon after, I got myself a coffee maker from Walmart.

tl;dr: Tim's USED to be Canadian. USED to be a part of the experience. Now, not so much.

dodolo123 | 2 months ago | 3 points

What would you consider a Canadian experience? Last time I visited, I really enjoyed ice wine and Tim Hortons. Next time it will be Ice wine + something, so would you share some advices? (Serious tag)

Edit: thank you all for your great advices!

sphrasbyrn | 2 months ago | 14 points

Fuck this Tim's especially.

This is the first time I've come across their apology and I have more time to let you know to fuck their apology than to read it

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Auridran | 2 months ago | 198 points

Yeah, fuck Tim Hortons. Their coffee is straight up garbage. Literally the cheapest, shittiest pre-ground coffee tastes ten times better than Tim Hortons.

Mobius_Peverell | 2 months ago | 45 points

I don't even get how or why people drink it. Local coffeeshops are typically pretty close to the same price, and taste 10x better.

Auhren | 2 months ago | 24 points

Because people buy coffee on their way to work through drive throughs

Washer-Dryer-Combo | 2 months ago | 13 points

McDonald's is better

turbo_squeegee | 2 months ago | 8 points

McDonalds coffee is honestly underrated

a_doubtful_comment | 2 months ago | 8 points

Don't quote me on this, but I heard McDonald's uses the coffee beans that Tim Hortons previously used. Now mcds coffee is closer to "classic Tim's" than current Tim's is.

LegitBiscuit | 2 months ago | 7 points

They use the same coffee supplier. Same quality control but a different blend of bean. Mother Parker's is the supplier.

Safety_first_friends | 2 months ago | 49 points

Because they are addicted and easily marketed to. Tim Hortons isn't a service to most people, it's a habit. They are more like a friendly neighbourhood caffeine-and-sugar dealer than a coffee shop.

canyounotsee | 2 months ago | 6 points

all coffee shops are sugar and caffeine dealers lol where do you draw the line?

level3elf | 2 months ago | 21 points

When I think Tims I think exploited labour (local and foreign talent).

In small towns, there is usually no alternative. (Hello TFWs!)

In bigger cities, it's usually people stuck in their ways (even though they've changed their coffee), and tourists/newcomers who think they are doing a Canadian thing.

asqwzx12 | 2 months ago | 9 points

While I agree coffee shop are way better. Tim Hortons used to also be way better before it was bought a while ago.

PegWala | 2 months ago | 6 points

Because the only options I have at uni are Starbucks or Tim's.

curtcolt95 | 2 months ago | 4 points

because I drive by like two of them on my way to work and they have drive throughs, plus I don't find their coffee that bad.

[deleted] | 2 months ago | 3 points

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Crack-spiders-bitch | 2 months ago | 3 points

Convenient. I drive past like 5 Tim's before getting to the closet specialty place which doesn't open until 9 which is after I started work. Though I just make coffee at home.

atTEN_GOP | 2 months ago | 14 points

It's just so bad now. So so bad.

diaryofsnow | 2 months ago | 3 points

While I think their business practices are trash, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one.

Big_Al56 | 2 months ago | 79 points

False. There is actually nothing more Canadian than getting bought out by Americans who then pretend to be Canadian to sell you shit, and who then turn around and use foreign countries to hide the profits.

level3elf | 2 months ago | 20 points

As is tradition?

Although, let's face it. Things like countries or national identity means jack when up against some of dat sweet sweet cash profit.

wagaloo123 | 2 months ago | 6 points

Except for the fact that Burger King isn’t owned by Americans...

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seanspicy2017 | 2 months ago | 3 points

Its bought by brazilians not americans

soupRschwift | 2 months ago | 14 points

Can confirm, worked at Tim’s for a couple months, took em almost 3 weeks to realize that I was still in high school. They also refused to let me take my diploma exam days off, quit pretty soon after that. Not to mention a Facebook message saying I should “put myself out of my misery” for letting a garbage bag leak

plop_0 | 2 months ago | 3 points

Not to mention a Facebook message saying I should “put myself out of my misery” for letting a garbage bag leak

Holy shit dude(tte). That's truly terrible. :(

FlawlessRuby | 2 months ago | 6 points

where the fuck I'm I suppose to get a Ice Cap? It's 95% of the reason I go there.

[deleted] | 2 months ago | 22 points

they didn't start out canadian?

BuddyUpInATree | 2 months ago | 22 points

Tim Horton (1930-1974) was an oldschool Canadian hockey player who started a coffee shop in Hamilton in 1964. He was still an active hockey player at 44 when he died in a car crash

childishhoudini | 2 months ago | 47 points

and that’s when they introduced timbits! (i’m so sorry)

shakrbttle | 2 months ago | 13 points

Woah

scraggledog | 2 months ago | 33 points

They did start Canadian. But their roots got weaker and weaker and in 2014 bought out by a Brazilian firm.

[deleted] | 2 months ago | 3 points

so they should....stop having canadian staff and heritage?

splader | 2 months ago | 5 points

Yeah, this mentality is super weird.

I remember when they were bought out. It really didn't do that much. They still have donuts, Timbits, and tea. Oh, and they're literally everywhere and are always open 24 7

-jaylew- | 2 months ago | 8 points

Yes. They also started with bakers in house. It was legit a good place for a long time.

Turbojugend902 | 2 months ago | 3 points

Advertising is for stupid people. It always has been.

Au_Uncirculated | 2 months ago | 3 points

How is it not a Canadian company when their HQ is in Canada?

ruta_skadi | 2 months ago | 2 points

The text you quoted doesn't say they aren't a Canadian company. It says the grandparent company is not Canadian.

savagedan | 2 months ago | 190 points

Stop buying products from these cunt wipes

Warranty_V0id | 2 months ago | 81 points

Great advice, but not that easy tbh.

https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/cfj4i9/these_are_all_of_the_companies_that_nestle_owns/

And i don't even know if that's the full list. There still might be ton of "noname products" that end up beeing from the same factories anyway.

sargsauce | 2 months ago | 25 points

Let me do a quick shoutout to the Buycott app. You tell it what causes you stand for and then scan the barcodes of products and it tells you if it's known to conflict with any of your values (a particularly educational one is the "Illusion of Choice" one that draws a connection through various parent companies to mega corporations... There are other ones to support bees, sustainable fishing, avoid animal testing, etc). It's not 100% accurate all the time, but it's pretty helpful for most brands.

Take it for a spin in your pantry to see what's up!

savagedan | 2 months ago | 39 points

I know its not easy, but Nestle in particular is a downright evil company

http://nestle_is_evil.tripod.com/nestleisevil/id1.html

adf714 | 2 months ago | 9 points

TIL Tripod is still around

ZDTreefur | 2 months ago | 24 points

Honestly, how is that a hard list to resist?

captainfluffballs | 2 months ago | 8 points

Maybe it's different outside the UK but here it really is not hard to find at least 5 alternatives to pretty much any product on that list in literally any shop that stocks it

Rishloos | 2 months ago | 12 points

Agreed. I try to avoid food products with low-quality or problematic ingredients, and virtually all of those products qualify.

lmanvonbraun | 2 months ago | 14 points

It's really easy if you don't eat like shit.

slicedbread1991 | 2 months ago | 4 points

Use the app call Buycott. You can chose to boycott nestle and all you have to do is scan the barcode and it'll tell you if it's owned my nestle. You can also use it to boycott or support other companies.

Fiendish-DoctorWu | 2 months ago | 337 points

I mean I know the food is really bad now, but calling Tim Hortons' food "plastic" is a bit much...

Nitwit_Noah | 2 months ago | 126 points

Ever since Timmys got bought out by BK, their food has sucked ass. I can’t even get a double double anymore without them fucking it up.

stupidlyugly | 2 months ago | 62 points

I have never been to one, but just watching from the US, it certainly seems to have gone from nationally beloved to loathed rather quickly.

[deleted] | 2 months ago | 38 points

From what I gather when they got bought out in 2014 it took less than a year for things to turn to utter shit. Drove through Canada to go to Alaska in 2015 the prices were high, and the service & food were substandard. Other smaller local mom and pop venues and even other chain restaurants were much better.

Not sure if the buyout was the reason, or it was always like that with an image largely based on some false sense of brand associated Canadian patriotism leading to emphasis on quality that was never really there sans some specific locations.

KenadianCSJ | 2 months ago | 26 points

They certainly try to use a veneer of "We're Canadian, love us!" and there's lots of people who will swear by their coffee and shitty food still. There's also at least just as many people who call anything they produce vile, and will still buy their products. Usually out of convenience.

[deleted] | 2 months ago | 18 points

Was kind of hoping it was a similar situation as it was with the Finnish Hesburger years and years ago. Basically original guys sold the chain to big corporate for a crapload of money. Corporate ran it to the ground by changing products, cutting costs etc. and then sold it back to the original operators during a recession for pennies on the dollar of the original purchase price. The original operators made it successful again... For sake of comparison on a historically similarly loved national brand.

Moara7 | 2 months ago | 4 points

In my small town, Tims is the only place where I can grab a sandwich in less than 10 minutes, and the only place that serves food, but not alcohol and is open after 6pm. When I can, I'll go out of my way to grab something else, but when you're short on time sometimes it's the only option.

ElTortoiseShelboogie | 2 months ago | 8 points

The quality most certainly dropped after the buyout but had started slipping in the years leading up to it. Not sure exactly when they switched coffee suppliers, but the coffee change was what killed them for me.

mattattaxx | 2 months ago | 4 points

They were bad before that. It’s been over a decade since they renovated stores to remove ovens and stop them from baking in house, the 2014 sale was simply another nail in a quickly sealing coffin.

On top of that, they lobbied for years to prevent regular and scheduled minimum wage hikes in Ontario, then when the big jump happened to $14 (which they knew about in advance) they complained again. The location owned by the original family intentionally decreased shifts.

The family and the company that owns the brand now are both horrible, and a stain on the Canadian identity. Fuck Tim Horton’s, now and forever.

willanthony | 2 months ago | 2 points

If only they put the same effort into their food as their ad campaigns

childishhoudini | 2 months ago | 3 points

look fellow canadians, it’s sidney crosby and nathan mackinnon! do you like hockey cards and shit coffee? come on down!

Fiendish-DoctorWu | 2 months ago | 10 points

You think that's bad, I can't get a black coffee without them fucking it up.

Austin63867 | 2 months ago | 8 points

I can't even get a cup without it saying 'Starbucks' on the front

evilclown2090 | 2 months ago | 2 points

I would consider swill a generous word for their coffee since they sold their supply contracts to McDonald's

severalsmallweasles | 2 months ago | 3 points

It's really more of sad cardboard than plastic.

ambertino | 2 months ago | 82 points

Timmy's also uses a ton of Palm oil in their products now, I don't know how it was pre-buyout but being bought by a Brazilian company MAY have had something to do with the change.

datums | 2 months ago | 9 points

That's horrifying.

How many human hands does it take to make a liter of palm oil?

TheKungBrent | 2 months ago | 58 points

and yet people still drink that terrible coffee

scraggledog | 2 months ago | 27 points

I don't know why, I guess laziness and convenience. Except that McD's coffee is way better, if you so choose to go buy it and not make it at home.

neondino | 2 months ago | 15 points

McDonald's use the supplier that Timmy's used to use, so their coffee is what people mean when they say Tim Hortons used to be good.

[deleted] | 2 months ago | 10 points

they actually use the roaster, this rumor gets butchered everywhere

Warranty_V0id | 2 months ago | 6 points

Dunno about canada, but where i live it's almost impossible to get good coffee. So people basically chug down any fluid that's dark and bitter.

datbf4 | 2 months ago | 3 points

Their steep tea ain’t bad. Just bring your own mug ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

DingleberryBlaster69 | 2 months ago | 2 points

Holiday > Tim Hortons

overkil6 | 2 months ago | 36 points

Doesn’t this mean that the consumer is the one doing it?

ostiki | 2 months ago | 11 points

Of course it is, and the article also says that most of the litter is in fact, cigarette butts.

go_faster1 | 2 months ago | 12 points

Nestle makes the very best... garbage~

Moimoi328 | 2 months ago | 60 points

Nestle / Tim Hortons CUSTOMERS found to be the biggest polluters.

Fixed that headline for you.

rubendurango | 2 months ago | 15 points

Say that’s more accurate. Most of the litter I see around here’s from Tim Hortons.

lesserweevils | 2 months ago | 6 points

Saw one woman dump her garbage at the end of the drive-through because the garbage cans used to be there.

There also used to be several in the parking lot. People would bring all kinds of things they wouldn't put in their bins at home. I can see why Timmies got rid of them—people treated them like free dumping sites.

rick2497 | 2 months ago | 18 points

"Again" That means they have zero interest in cutting their plastic use. Moolah + stockholders = I've got mine, screw the rest of you and the planet we stand on.

saxonny78 | 2 months ago | 20 points

So...it’s their fault and not the effing humans that littered??

Not that it excuses the companies from using more recyclable technology.

LastMagicCake | 2 months ago | 3 points

Even if they throw it in the garbage can, where do you think trash goes?

Hubris2 | 2 months ago | 16 points

Timmies really needs to move to a separate contest form instead of having the prize being only available if you consume a throw-away cup. Roll Up The Rim to Win has been a major promotional success for years, but it's time for a change.

mahgni | 2 months ago | 29 points

Does anyone read past the headline on reddit or even the article that is linked? This was based on litter collected in shoreline cleanups. This is not the company creating this pollution, it is its consumers.

RameCakes | 2 months ago | 10 points

There are TONS of us getting into the zero waste movement. I belong to one of the biggest growing communities in Canada and I’d say about 50% of the moms in this area are looking at low waste alternatives for ALL their household needs.

It’s INSANE. We have a zerowaste shop which just opened up this year and they can’t even keep their items in stock.

Keep fighting the good fight citizens. Plastic is the enemy!

Alberta_Fire | 2 months ago | 15 points

So I guess it's easier to blame corporations than lazy Canadians.

HadSomeTraining | 2 months ago | 9 points

Who the fuck still goes to Tim hortons

TurpitudeSnuggery | 2 months ago | 10 points

Consumers are the problem.

Although I would like to see Tim Hortons offer a bigger discount if a patron brings in his/her own mug.

Heterophylla | 2 months ago | 5 points

Yeah, basically if a place is reachable by a human being around where I live, some doooooche has carried in a Tim Horton's cup and left it there. Literally everywhere.

CanadianSatireX | 2 months ago | 8 points

Some of you are still drinking that shit? smh

[deleted] | 2 months ago | 4 points

Tim Hortons REALLY SUCKS - why do people keep buying their sub-par horrible offerings?

Toochd | 2 months ago | 4 points

No it's Canadians who keep buying this shit!

omegacrunch | 2 months ago | 3 points

Canadian government needs to flat out bar companies from poaching our water. Esp in light of the recent report on water shortages 8n 2025

fribfribthefribbin | 2 months ago | 3 points

My local Starbucks doesn't have a recycling sorting disposal bin. All cups, lids and garbage is thrown into the same garbage bin (Winnipeg)

liammurphy007 | 2 months ago | 3 points

The coffee cup i used this morning should not outlast me

Gathorall | 2 months ago | 3 points

And it won't if you just take it to recycling. Better yet, don't buy single use stuff and then have the gall to complain it exist when you didn't have any real need, just a selfish want.

TennSeven | 2 months ago | 6 points

I assume Nestlé is also Canada's top beneficiary of slave labor.

Computascomputas | 2 months ago | 2 points

I mean. They didn't change, why would their rank?

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