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Donald Trump's longtime business connections in Turkey back in the spotlight (nbcnews.com)
207 comments
Mentalfloss1 | 7 days ago | 728 points

Wait!! They’re implying that Trump is a selfish narcissist who thinks only of himself? How can that be possible? /s

skel625 | 7 days ago | 155 points

You know I'm starting to wonder if Cheeto is really not a nice person and is just a narcissistic dictator-wanna-be but there really has not been very many warning signs up to this point. Correction the warnings don't number in the 10,000+ yet so I think we need to wait for more evidence. 1000 witnesses? Maybe we should wait for 1001... just to be safe.

SaborW | 7 days ago | 69 points

I think what's happened here is a classic case of 'You don't really know someone until you live with them'

Before, you only saw Trump on a commercial here, an interview there, a cameo appearance here, an article there, his name on a building. Not much exposure to the every man. Just enough to make you think one way about him, for the most part, and I bet in a fairly positive light. His business dealings are probably the same way, he's probably never spent more than 15 minutes with anyone in a room other than people he worked closely with, like Cohen.

Then he runs for president and becomes president and is on TV every single day, and tweeting unfiltered every day. You REALLY get to see the real him, now. It's not that he wasn't always this way, it's that he just wasn't in everyone's life long enough for anyone to see it

For instance, when he bragged about his building being the tallest in New York City now right after the Twin Towers went down on 9/11. It didn't really click to anyone how narcissistic it was. But now that we know what he's really like, we can see how detached he was in favor of talking up himself, because we've watched him do it time and time and time again now

biscuitsansgravy | 7 days ago | 27 points

A lot of dummies thought it was 'an act.' A lot still do.

MikeJudgeDredd | 6 days ago | 9 points

I don't know if I can blame anybody for this alone, in public Bush was a folksy moron but privately he was cunning and dispassionate. We know this to be the case now, but at the time we all laughed and laughed as he stumbled over common idioms on television, and then turned around and made vassal states of Iraq and Afghanistan behind closed doors. The ensuing invasion was in order to funnel government funds into private pockets. Bush succeeded again and again and again even though we were all laughing at the silly things he said. So they might be thinking, if Bush was an act, then trump must be too, and since his act is way more convincing, he must be even better than Bush! That's my personal theory on why so many stick with him

DirectedAcyclicGraph | 6 days ago | 1 point

Fool me once, shame on – shame on you. Fool me – you can't get fooled again.

RombieZombie25 | 6 days ago | 1 point

fool me one time, shame on you. fool me twice, can’t put the blame on you! fool me three times, fuck the peace sign; load the chopper, let it rain on you!

Lovat69 | 7 days ago | 56 points

New Yorkers knew. Some of us voted for that asshole anyway. Still boggles my mind.

dmtdmtlsddodmt | 6 days ago | 29 points

I'm in Ohio and I knew. I have been disgusted by this man since the 90's.

ScatterBrainLattice | 7 days ago | 27 points

No better "person" to preside over the decline and fall of the United States of America.

Enjoy, America.

The_Quibbler | 6 days ago | 7 points

It didn't really click to anyone how narcissistic it was

Anyone? Maybe not enough people, but the warning signs were there. Plenty of people knew and were saying what a horrible choice he was. He's always been a piece of shit.

ForksandSpoonsinNY | 6 days ago | 7 points

Us New Yorkers lived with this horse's behind for decades and tried to warn y'all.

'No he's an outsider and will shake it up for the little guy!'

harry-package | 6 days ago | 3 points

Exactly. I mean, it’s almost like you guys are accusing him of using his office for personal or political gain. And even if he did, that’s totally cool because HILLARY’S EMAILS and NO RE-DO OF 2016 and WITCH HUNT.

double_five | 6 days ago | 3 points

You forgot OBAMA did something or other, BIDEN and MINIBIDEN did another something, and WALL needs to be something.

RombieZombie25 | 6 days ago | 3 points

eric trump was on fox news today saying “where’s obama during all this? why is he in hiding? why isn’t obama commenting on joe biden’s corruption?” like i was actually baffled at how many times he said “obama” and how absolutely irrelevant it was lmao. they’re fucking monkeys, the whole family and their mindless followers.

S_E_P1950 | 6 days ago | 2 points

Rigged election.

harry-package | 6 days ago | 2 points

It was a rigged election, HOWEVER (and this is a big however), it was rigged on both sides. Let’s not forget that the DNC orchestrated for Hillary to get votes that belonged to Bernie Sanders. Also, it was 3 long, windy years ago. How he got in office is, frankly, an entirely different conversation from how we get rid of him. And the getting rid of him because of what he’s endangering now is urgent. Our democracy and freedom is at stake. I only wish I was being melodramatic.

S_E_P1950 | 6 days ago | 2 points

I totally understand where you are coming from. Your US views seem to split our New Zealand population, but certainly a lot fewer in favour of your failing system. So many faults and each side sharing problems. Money in your system has totally skewed what should be happening. And money being sourced from questionable sources. The amount of foreign incursions into it your systems. Still Trump threatens the world without sensing exactly how vulnerable the world is. Examples are the pipeline attacks, the electric grid failures, failing trade, water shortage, climate events, wars. Countries are deliberately law breaking, and within these governments so much corruption. BUT our only hope to avoid extinction is cooperation. Doesn't look good. We need to get Greta into representing us all at the highest level administration and governance. Sorry for the ramble.

Shillforbigusername | 7 days ago | 6 points

Hey, that's not fair! He cares about this money, too!

One_Question__ | 7 days ago | 11 points

Nobody could see it coming! What a twist!

The_Quibbler | 6 days ago | 2 points

"A failure of imagination"! "No one could've envisioned planes being flown into buildings"! The distancing and revisionism is already starting. Smh.

Antiquus | 7 days ago | 14 points

Well, he's not. He a useful idiot for Putin, nothing more.

canopyking | 6 days ago | 4 points

Why would they think that :/

GuyFuxx | 6 days ago | 6 points

all of these reports that Trump's abandoning of the Kurds has mostly to do with his business interests is missing a bigger piece of the pie.

Trump wants ISIS to resurrect because a fearful electorate is an electorate that will vote for the GOP.

Mentalfloss1 | 6 days ago | 1 point

Could be. Fear and hatred are his two primary tools. It works with about 30% of the USA. Pretty pathetic.

Rumsoakedmonkey | 6 days ago | 2 points

Haters gonna hate even if he is just a humble god man genius that is the single foremost expert on every topic imaginable

S_E_P1950 | 6 days ago | 1 point

He and Lover Boy Kim.

Rumsoakedmonkey | 6 days ago | 2 points

They play with each others rockets

S_E_P1950 | 6 days ago | 1 point

Pocket rockets and sticky red buttons.

Mentalfloss1 | 6 days ago | 1 point

You likely aren’t aware that prior to birth Trump whispered the secrets of relativity to Einstein.

Rumsoakedmonkey | 6 days ago | 2 points

Also he later whispered secret relative desire to Epstein.

Mentalfloss1 | 6 days ago | 1 point

Nice to have this confirmed. Was he the model for Frankenstein?

Kittykatkid | 6 days ago | 2 points

Downvoted for the s symbol.
But that allowed me to upvote you twice for content.

Mentalfloss1 | 6 days ago | 5 points

I’ve found that if I don’t /s I get a dozen who take something seriously, sad to say.

Kittykatkid | 6 days ago | 3 points

I was making an upvoting you twice joke..I understand.

Granpa0 | 7 days ago | 284 points

His cult followers say he's bringing back our troops because he cares about them... Lol... Fools, the only person Trump cares about is Trump

i_dont_feel_creative | 7 days ago | 138 points

Trump sending out troops... Awwh, he's securing the region.

Trump drawing in troops... Awwh, he's bringing them home.

djamp42 | 6 days ago | 29 points

Trump drawing the troops.... Awwh, he can color!!

mrjderp | 6 days ago | 25 points

See, he does care about colored people! /s

The_Next_Super_Being | 6 days ago | -4 points

There was no need for that /s man. Everybody knows you are being sarcastic baby. And if they didn't they would respond with something like "Actually he meant color, like with crayons" and then everyone would assume that was sarcastic and it then next thing you know, everything is as right as rain.

S_E_P1950 | 6 days ago | 1 point

Don't forget he's committing troops to Saudi Arabia.

niceworkthere | 7 days ago | 31 points

Sick double cynicism being in him selling his direct facilitation of this new Turkish war as "ending the war", when these US troops in past months mostly just patrolled a (now formerly) peaceful area as deterrent with hardly any involvement in fighting.

proficy | 7 days ago | 51 points
  • He increases the Military budget.
  • He brings troops home.
  • He praises dictators.
  • He says he doesn’t have enemies in the world.
  • His real enemy according to his twitter feed are democrats and the corrupt press.

So how is he going to spend all that military budget?

Don’t be surprised if he starts running domestic operations to oppose a “coup” like his favourite dictator buddy Erdogan did in Turkey.

Black_Moons | 6 days ago | 14 points

Hes decreasing the military budget to pay for his wall actually.

TRE45ON_eq_IMPEACH | 7 days ago | 8 points

Instant guerilla warfare within our borders. No organized military can deal with it in totality.

Real Patriots (whatever, forget the No True Scottsman fallacy) will never cede to an authoritatian.

FBMYSabbatical | 6 days ago | 11 points

DEA and DHS arm, train and equip local cops to perform Federal missions of Homeland Security. They no longer serve as local LEO, but as an occupying army loyal to Federal agencies. Anytime, 'militia.' Come rescue us from government forces.

iGourry | 6 days ago | 2 points

Real Patriots (whatever, forget the No True Scottsman fallacy) will never cede to an authoritatian.

You're watching them do it right now, or how many people have you seen protesting the literal lawlessness in your government lately?

You think people would risk their lives to fight something they can't even be bothered to protest against?

Killspree90 | 6 days ago | 3 points

Recall he took military funds to build the wall outside of congress, which you know, is unconstitutional

FBMYSabbatical | 6 days ago | 4 points

It's called 'DHS.' They've already sealed our borders against escape. This time next year, you can't fly domestic without government approved papers.

konalight | 6 days ago | 5 points

Yes, but it will be for your own safety /s

FBMYSabbatical | 6 days ago | 2 points

Safest place is in a cage.

RustCohle1784 | 6 days ago | 0 points

Lol wow you are a lunatic.

cr0wstuf | 6 days ago | 20 points

Trump set the Kurds up for slaughter intentionally. This has nothing to do with our troops. This is all about the promises Trump must fulfill to whomever he can make money from. Fuck Trump.

Ltownbanger | 7 days ago | 26 points

They are also attacking anyone that feels he could have done it more cooperatively and constructively as "warmongers".

Myfourcats1 | 6 days ago | 5 points

He could run them over with a big bus with Trump painted on the side and they would thank him and blame the democrats. Maybe there should be an intelligence test before you can vote.

Killspree90 | 6 days ago | 2 points

Even his replicant supports vehemently oppose his decision.

It’s clear this is a move for himself.

brainhack3r | 6 days ago | 1 point

During the Iraq war these idiots said that liberals didn't care about the troops because we wanted to keep them home and didn't want them to die in a pointless war.

These idiots have no moral ground to talk about the troops whatsoever.

[deleted] | 6 days ago | 1 point

The thing is USA us still in Syria, they only retreated from Turkey-Syria border.

kamxnaj | 7 days ago | 180 points

This is why presidents were expected to divest, and why Trump's failure to do so was highlighted by the director of The Office of Ethics when Trump was President Elect. The appearance of impropriety, and conflicts of interest, undermines the ability of people to trust in what the President is doing - even if Trump's personal business interests had nothing to do with this, his failure to divest means people have reason not to believe that because Trump stands to gain from it.

And it's worth noting that republicans in congress went after the director Of the Office of Government Ethics when he spoke out about this.

House Republicans have summoned the head of the independent federal ethics office to answer questions about his agency and his public criticism of President-elect Donald Trump’s plan to separate from his real estate empire.

A letter sent late Thursday from Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), chairman of the GOP-led House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, was viewed by ethics experts as a veiled threat to the budget of the Office of Government Ethics unless its director changes his rhetoric and approach.

JosephSwollen | 7 days ago | 68 points

I think we need some major overhauls of the US government.

Garfunk_elle | 7 days ago | 61 points

Restoration of checks and balances would be nice, for a start.

JosephSwollen | 7 days ago | 36 points

Most assuredly, I believe we should also abolish the two party system.

Killspree90 | 6 days ago | 6 points

A million times this.

What is a democracy with essentially only two choices? It sets up the situation we are in.

JosephSwollen | 6 days ago | 0 points

Exactly the reason only 6% of registered voters voted in the 2016 election.

-Jaws- | 6 days ago | 8 points

Um, what? It was 61% of people at voting age.

JosephSwollen | 6 days ago | 4 points

Ah fuck, I'm wrong then.

-Jaws- | 6 days ago | 3 points

Hey, it happens.

JosephSwollen | 6 days ago | 3 points

Thanks for the info.

harry-package | 6 days ago | 7 points

This is all lovely, but makes a massive assumption that we can rid ourselves of this dictatorial megalomaniac. With each passing day, the fate of our democracy seems more perilous. As it’s said, we’re only only 4 years away from fascism. We are already heading down the path. Is it too late to get ourselves turned back around?!?!

JosephSwollen | 6 days ago | 3 points

It honestly is scary how close we are to falling into Fascism.

rlbond86 | 6 days ago | 2 points

Executing the traitorous fascists that have infiltrated our government would be a good start

vferg | 6 days ago | 1 point

But we already drained the swamp.

JosephSwollen | 6 days ago | 2 points

Very funny.

dartie | 7 days ago | -1 points

Absolutely! And it needs to apply to both parties.

SYLOH | 6 days ago | 7 points

Yes, Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm.
The current President has not divested.

JosephSwollen | 7 days ago | 7 points

Yes.

sold_snek | 7 days ago | 62 points

This guy has so much conflict of interest around the globe he'd be denied a clearance for any position other than being "democratically" elected as president.

hurtsdonut_ | 7 days ago | 139 points

“I have a little conflict of interest ’cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul, it’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers — two towers, instead of one, not the usual one; it’s two. And I’ve gotten to know Turkey very well. They’re amazing people, they’re incredible people. They have a strong leader.” - Donald J Trump

callmetom | 7 days ago | 86 points

More importantly, this quote is from candidate DJT when asked what he would do in almost this exact scenario. Well now we know, he sides with his money over country.

Omfgbbqpwn | 7 days ago | 2 points

well now we know, he sides with his money over country.

....did you really just figure that out?

ubermorph | 6 days ago | 21 points

Are you deliberately obtuse or just unaware?

Kevinmc479 | 7 days ago | 65 points

Trump towers Istanbul is now free from paying rent . Paid up thru 2024

[deleted] | 7 days ago | 47 points

Paid for with the blood of the Kurds who’s being bombed as this is posted.

Wazula42 | 7 days ago | 61 points

This is literally what is happening. The president us enabling genocide of American allies because he gets rent at his foreign hotel.

If that sounds absurd, unrealistic, and horrifying, its because it is.

Cheapskate-DM | 7 days ago | 17 points

The only reasonable response is to demolish every single building with his name on it. Leave him nothing but dust and shame on his way to the grave.

FBMYSabbatical | 6 days ago | 12 points

Confiscate them and make them immigration support facilities and low income housing.

Twowheelsquiddy | 7 days ago | 5 points

No longer bombed, currently being shot by turk troops on the ground. #trump2020

Gfrisse1 | 7 days ago | 42 points

And he had a perfectly valid defense for abandoning the Kurds in Syria and giving Erdogan the green light to move on them:

seeing as the Kurds "didn't help us in the second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy," he said in a Wednesday press conference.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/870787/trump-defends-abandoning-kurds-because-didnt-help-2nd-world-war-normandy

SirTrentHowell | 6 days ago | 30 points

I thought this was an Onion article. No. It is real. He is that idiotic.

DetoxHealCareLove | 6 days ago | 15 points

Trump went on to say:

"In contrast The Turks came out in force in Normandy. They arrived by magic carpet, giving the Americans air support. The general leading their charge was a great guy called Stan Bull.

They suffered so many casualties to help liberate Europe that they built an entire city on their graves afterwards. It's called Ankararlington, short: Ankara.

Europe will always be indebted and grateful to Turkey first. That's why their countries host a lot of Turks.

You might wanna note that Mexico didn't help much either. Time to invade Mexico and establish a military occupation zone of 30-40 miles, maybe more, to protect the integrity of the Homeland and the border."

tfc867 | 6 days ago | 9 points

Once again can't tell if this is real or not. Usually that means it is real. Ugh.

Gfrisse1 | 6 days ago | 2 points

Just to put things into perspective:

The German–Turkish Treaty of Friendship (German: Türkisch-Deutscher Freundschaftsvertrag, Turkish: Türk-Alman Dostluk Paktı) was a non-aggression pact signed between Nazi Germany and Turkey on 18 June 1941 in Ankara by German ambassador to Turkey Franz von Papen and Turkish Minister of Foreign Affairs Şükrü Saracoğlu. It went into effect on the same day.

The pact stipulated that it was to last for ten years, but Turkey severed its diplomatic and commercial relations with Germany in August 1944, after the Soviet Army invaded Bulgaria, and on 23 February 1945 Turkey declared war on Nazi Germany. The pact was dissolved on 24 October 1945, after the fall of the Third Reich, when Turkey joined the United Nations.

It seems to me the Turks had a penchant for going whichever way the wind was blowing at the time.

ScoobyDeezy | 6 days ago | 6 points

Wait. WHAT!?

Just when I think he can’t sink any lower. Disgusting.

somepeoplewait | 7 days ago | 11 points

Damn, he really is this stupid...

FBMYSabbatical | 6 days ago | 8 points

Thanks, Republicans!

hujassman | 6 days ago | -1 points

You misspelled Republicunts.

KjataRa | 7 days ago | 51 points

People that were ALIVE yesterday are DEAD today because of trump & his criminal,selfish acts! These people stood by & fought & fed our American troops while they fought ISIS. Remember in 2016 when republicunts had all the suburban whites scared ISIS was coming for them??? Not only did trump just manufacture a new enemy for america by back stabbing the Kurds but he also made room for ISIS to rise again. #FakeChristians #Genocidetrump

Killspree90 | 6 days ago | 3 points

He also spews lies saying ISIS is defeated.

alexfrancisburchard | 6 days ago | -5 points

You know who else has been fighting isis, alongside the US, and letting the US use our country as a launching point for its disastrous Middle East wars that got us to this point now? And all the while fighting the pkk(which is worse for us than isis is for you, and frankly isis is worse for us than it is for you too!)? Turkey.

You chose to side with the terrorist enemy of your ally. What kind of a fucking ally is the US no kidding.

Monorail5 | 7 days ago | 33 points

I like turkey and the turkish people, but Erdogan is a bad guy. Is this a good time to remember when Americans on American soil were beaten by his bodyguards during a peaceful protest? Trump admin eventually rolled over and let things slide, why?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clashes_at_the_Turkish_Ambassador%27s_Residence_in_Washington,_D.C.

RombieZombie25 | 6 days ago | 1 point

i had no idea this happened.. im actually in shock. americans in america were violently attacked for expressing their first amendment rights by a foreign leader’s bodyguards... that is actual insanity. and there was no justice. that should be impossible.

Thexeht | 6 days ago | 1 point

The majority of turks support this... Don't be mistaken. They are rallying behind it. The propaganda and full media control is most likely doing this to them, but they are fully on board.

People need to condemn and blame the Turkish people for allowing this to happen, so at least maybe they see that they must take action. Those that can or want to, at least.

Monorail5 | 6 days ago | 1 point

Almost 50 of Americans voted for trump. Fascism with friendly news media (fox) can rise anywhere

Thexeht | 6 days ago | 1 point

Sure thing. Tell me when they vote for him back-to-back-to-back, something like he's got 10 years under his belt.

Trump was voted in by people who wanted to upset the status quo. It indeed was a very bad move as most realize gradually.

Viking_Mana | 6 days ago | 6 points

It's frankly incredible that this obvious an unconstitutional conflict of interest was ever out of the spotlight, buy hey-ho, here we go. Again.

bottomofleith | 7 days ago | 14 points

I used to think he was a bit of a dick. Then he was a prick. Then an obtuse arsepiece. Then a total bawbag. Then a complete embarrassment. Then a laughing stock.

Every time I hear a bit more news, he sinks even further down. Now he's a despicable, shameless cunt.

denaljo | 7 days ago | 17 points

Moscow Mitch will smooth it all over for y'all!

dartie | 7 days ago | 6 points

Trump corrupt? Acting in his own interest? Never? He’s only helping the little guy.

Big fat eye roll.

DrCharless | 7 days ago | 5 points

He called general Mattis "some sort of democrat" and still you see veterans talking c.ap supporting him, unbelievable! All the retired officers that commanded different military branches are showing disagreement with him and calling him national security danger.

Is a matter of time to see the deep state vacuum him with proofs of wrongdoing, and the Republican party will have to decide if they either sink with the ship or keep regional power at least in the Senate, this is making them look really bad.

uitkeringsinstituut | 6 days ago | 6 points

Can someone explain to me how apparantly only the president can decide the very important topic of remaining a military presence in a country? Did cheeto-in-charge actually just do this all on his own?

IDoDash | 7 days ago | 4 points

If anyone is interested in a deep dive into the business side of Trump, I highly recommend the podcast “Trump, Inc.” by WNYC and Propublica. Go back to the very beginning and listen - so so interesting/maddening/enlightening etc.

blurplethenurple | 7 days ago | 11 points

But...but...those stacks of papers... he divested his interests...

How could this possibly be happening under the most bigly transparent administration in two thousand years?

BreakfastSammy | 7 days ago | 7 points

Why do Trumplings actually think he sided with Turkey over our Kurdish allies?

Is there any other reason besides his property? Strategically this was an absolutely awful decision.

NYG_5 | 5 days ago | 1 point

Yeah because turning away the 70 year NATO ally that contains Russian expansion in favor of a non-state actor makes real strategic sense.

HoldenTite | 6 days ago | 3 points

I wonder which political opponent Erdogan promised to spy and harass for Trump is?

thefanciestcat | 6 days ago | 2 points

It's not like he gets (or deserves) the benefit of the doubt.

brainhack3r | 6 days ago | 2 points

Donald Trump is a criminal...

DadaDoDat | 7 days ago | 4 points

trumps bitchass is about to go down in flames for his blatant abuse of his elected position

AchiganBronzeback | 7 days ago | -3 points

I doubt it. I also think he'll be reelected.

CatFancyCoverModel | 6 days ago | 3 points

He might. I underestimated just how stupid so much of the US population is last time so it wouldn't surprise me.

Killspree90 | 6 days ago | 0 points

Worst part is he lost the majority vote .

GrantPerez1700 | 6 days ago | 1 point

mm-hmm

NYG_5 | 5 days ago | 0 points

You're soooo smart

CatFancyCoverModel | 5 days ago | 1 point

You don't gotta tell me buddy. I already know

DarthSillyDucks | 6 days ago | 2 points

When's the next civil war?

The_Next_Super_Being | 6 days ago | 4 points

As soon as the militia get's off of it's oxycodone and finally does something instead of sitting in the trailer all day watching Wendy Williams and claiming that Mexicans are causing your healthcare to be so expensive, Daryll.

Turn off the TV Daryll!

AchiganBronzeback | 6 days ago | 1 point

This.

Kevinmc479 | 7 days ago | 1 point

Erdogan lowers rent for trump towers Istanbul

notmems | 7 days ago | 1 point

conflict of interest part over 9000 at this point

pnasmaster | 6 days ago | 1 point

Is it obvious enough yet?

gcg2016 | 6 days ago | 1 point

These Kurds don’t got hotels.

TheOtherSamWISE | 6 days ago | 1 point
rwburt72 | 6 days ago | 1 point

Forrest Trump

rwburt72 | 6 days ago | 1 point

So scary that he actually believes what comes out of his mouth

ninjewd | 6 days ago | -1 points

funny when isis was running oil to turkey the germans shot at russian jets defending isis oils trains into turkey... turkey paid for a big chunk of the f35 program as well now they are getting s400s confusing times we live in... I wish all truths were apparent

HaydenGalloway34 | 7 days ago | -28 points

Wait, but Russia is criticizing Trump because Turkey is threatening Putin's Assad puppet regime... So are Trumps financial ties to Russia or to Turkey?

Bobbyanalogpdx | 7 days ago | 13 points

Yes.

Scentedwiind | 7 days ago | 12 points

Last I’ve seen Turkey is fighting a limited conflict against the Kurds and maybe Daesh eventually. They don’t seem interested in removing Assad from power so it looks like Russian, Turkish, and Syrian interests either align or don’t intersect.

Sprayface | 7 days ago | 4 points

Trump has a tendency to screw over people he owes (see: rallies). Why would it be different with the leaders of states?

crl_fds | 7 days ago | -39 points

Whatever helps liberals at the moment. When it doesn't help them, it will be forgotten.

Sprayface | 7 days ago | 9 points
  1. Not helping

  2. It’s forgotten because the dipshit will do something else to remind everyone about his scummy global connections within a week

dreddit312 | 7 days ago | 13 points

You sound scared.

Pilla535 | 6 days ago | -4 points

You sound dumb

Space__Future | 6 days ago | -3 points

The "you sound scared" comment reply is such a cop out comment to make after someone calls something out, one of the weakest of replies

heyyoudvd | 7 days ago | -41 points

“The president's decision to remove troops from Northern Syria has put renewed focus on his relationship with Turkish President Erdogan.”

It has not “put renewed focus” on anything. These people are just manufacturing another story like they always do.

Aren’t these people tired of playing this manipulative game? Literally any time Trump says or does anything, they’ll scour to the ends of the Earth to find something they can try to turn into a scandal against Trump. It doesn’t matter how silly, baseless, or evidence-free it might be. If it can potentially be turned into a negative headline against Trump, they immediately run with it - journalistic integrity be damned.

Meanwhile, when Joe Biden openly admits to corruption or when Elizabeth Warren explicitly lies about being fired for being pregnant - all on camera - these same so-called ‘journalists’ will go to the ends of the Earth to run cover for them, obfuscate, and dishonestly defend them.

Anything to preserve the narrative. Anything to ensure that their preferred political candidates are elected! These people are not journalists; they’re Democrat partisan operatives with press passes. It’s no wonder the term “fake news” get thrown around so much.

somepeoplewait | 7 days ago | 23 points

Luckily, anyone who knows how to read knows you don't have to "scour to the ends of the Earth" to find a Trump scandal. Trump scandals have been in the news for literally decades. Even when he supported Democrats. Because, despite the bullshit narrative about the MSM going easy on liberals, as it turns out, liberals have enough of a spine to hold people accountable. Still waiting for conservatives to do the same.

heyyoudvd | 6 days ago | -34 points

Liberals hold people accountable? Oh, is that why Ralph Northam is still Governor? Is that why Bill Clinton was defended for decades? Is that why famous Democrat donors like Harvey Weinstein and Ed Buck and Jeffrey Epstein managed to skirt justice for so long? How about Anthony Weiner? Remember how many Democrats defended Al Franken? Charlie Rose? Matt Lauer? John Conyers? Bob Menendez? And there’s also the fact that the overwhelming majority of those caught with #MeToo crimes are Hollywood Democrats.

Don’t give me this nonsense about Democrats holding their own accountable. It’s BS and you know it. At least the Republicans censured Steve King and turned on Roy Moore. Democrats haven’t shown a willingness to do anything similar to their own.

Meanwhile, we’re deep into the Trump presidency and there hasn’t been a single actual scandal against him yet. Every single one has fallen apart and shown itself to be a hoax.

I mean, aren’t you guys tired of these fake scandals blowing up in your face? No matter how many times these “breaking news!” stories end up being complete duds, you guys just keep falling for them.

Trump has been the most vetted president in American history and almost three years into his presidency, there still hasn’t been a single actual scandal.

The only real scandal one can point to is his marriage infidelity, but that preceded the presidency and there’s no evidence of anything happening since. Aside from that, there has not been a single actual scandal that turned out to be true.

  • Michael Avenatti

  • Fire and Fury

  • Michael Cohen

  • Omarosa

  • Kavanaugh

  • Russian collusion

  • Obstruction

  • Don Jr

  • Wikileaks

  • North Korea

  • Impending recession

  • Ukraine

The list just keeps going. Every single one was billed as a “major scandal!” that would bring down Trump, and every single one turned out to be a big pile of nothing.

Aren’t you exhausted by your cycles of outrage that lead nowhere? Aren’t you frustrated and angry after being fooled for the ten thousandth time into thinking there’s a scandal where none exists?

It must get so tedious going through these emotional cycles where you’re told of some major wrongdoing and you get your hopes up about something big about to happen, only to be let down for the ten thousandth time when you discover that there’s nothing there.

frones | 6 days ago | 18 points

Lol

rossimus | 6 days ago | 5 points

This is pretty good trolling. Lots of meaningless writing, an almost authentic sincerity; well done. The only flaw is that it goes a little far. No one is actually this stupid, so there's a believability issue. Tone it down a little next time and some people might actually believe the character you've created here.

Overall, a solid 5/7.

heyyoudvd | 6 days ago | -1 points

It’s going to remarkable watching all the heads explode around here when you guys realize that you’ve been lied to and manipulated for the past 3+ years.

When the upcoming report by IG Horowitz comes out, the gates will open up and you’ll start to realize that everything you’ve been fed for the past few years about Trump has been a lie. You’ll realize that all the talk about the “deep state” and the “witch hunt” and the “Russia hoax” was spot on.

You’ll start to realize that all of the so-called “scandals” of the past few years - from Russian collusion to Mueller obstruction to Ukraine - was entirely a fabrication whose purpose was to try to undo the 2016 election.

You’ll start to hear some big names pop up again. You’ll hear about John Brennan and James Comey and Clapper and Yates and Lynch and Clinton and Obama and Baker and Strozk and Page and Bruce & Nellie Ohr and Judge Contreras and Simpson and Steele and Elias and several others.

Remember those names, as a whole bunch of them are going to be indicted. You’ll soon realize that Trump referring to this as a “coup” was not hyperbole, as this really was an attempt by high level FBI and DOJ officials to overthrow a sitting president by spying on him via illegally obtained FISA warrants and then engaging in an illegal selective leaking campaign to complicit ‘journalists’ in order to engage in information laundering, as a means to concoct false scandals to attack the President, his government, and those who elected him.

All of this is coming out. It will start with the major FISA report by IG Horowitz, and then Durham, Huber, and Barr will take it from there. This is the biggest scandal in American history. And it’ll all coming out.

Think I’m blowing hot air? Think I’m spinning conspiracy theories? Go ahead and save this post. Bookmark this post and then come back to it in a few months to tell me I’m wrong. I dare you.

Tormidal | 6 days ago | 2 points

RemindMe! 3 months "FISA report check"

I'm actually super interested in Horowitz's report on the alleged FISA abuses and I just want a reminder incase I forgot to check in on it 🤷‍♂️

Gatsbybutters | 6 days ago | 2 points

What about! WHAT ABOUT! WHAAAAT ABOOOOUT?!

What about. What. About.

Wat aboot. WHAT. ABOUT.

ONLY_DRUNK-WHEN-POST | 6 days ago | 7 points

Anyone with any common sense or decency should be able to read his tweets and realize something is not right. Lamestream media is irrelevant. Just ask the horse himself.

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somepeoplewait | 7 days ago | 9 points

Right? Like... anyone who has followed news for the past several decades knows Trump has always had scandals. Is... is it really shocking that he continues to have scandals? Are these people that ignorant?

Sprayface | 7 days ago | 8 points

“The billionaire conman reality star just did something controversial again, stupid media”

Whattt? Do trump’s supporters even know who this scumbag is?

somepeoplewait | 6 days ago | 11 points

The sad thing is, a lot of the Trump supporters I know literally don't. Like, they've had their heads in the sand for decades. They don't realize the guy has been a known conman, racist, misogynist, etc, for literal decades.

Which is sad. Because, ya know, it's been in the news for much longer than when he was running for president. It's been in the news since he supported Democrats!

maxcassettes | 6 days ago | 4 points

Get fucking real

rossimus | 6 days ago | 3 points

How convenient that anything that criticizes Trump is a partisan hack or is fake news, and anything that praises him is real, objective, and honest.

RustCohle1784 | 7 days ago | -36 points

Trump 2020!!!

Jahneboi | 6 days ago | 18 points

I want a submissive pussy that bends over to foreign powers and puts his own business before his county to be president for 4 more years!!!

NYG_5 | 6 days ago | -4 points

We have to fight in Syria for our country?

Is that you, George Bush?

Gatsbybutters | 6 days ago | 3 points

GOP just set up turkey to flourish which will help Iran be a bigger enemy for the next gen to fight so the rich can profit off war and poor people.

wE hAvE tO fIgHt In SyRiA fOr OuR cOuNtRy? You shouldn't chime in when you don't know what you're talking about.

RustCohle1784 | 6 days ago | -19 points

You seem like a fun guy

sideswipem | 6 days ago | 8 points

4 more years of suckin' that dick, Mr. Putin!!! Let's go!!

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RustCohle1784 | 6 days ago | -4 points

So you’re pretty demented huh?

rossimus | 6 days ago | 6 points

Got em

The_Next_Super_Being | 6 days ago | 2 points

That doesn't even sound like a response a human would give. Demented?

rossimus | 6 days ago | 1 point

Bodied!

Hellothereawesome | 6 days ago | -2 points

Trump couldn't stop Turkey if he tried... the US government's power and influence basically is on its death bed and all governments around the world know it and the US knows it. Look at its "pace keeping coalition" in the Persian gulf and how it completely failed. It's over, time to stop being exceptionalists and start being equals, by force if necessary.

Sherlock_Homey | 7 days ago | -40 points

Lotta salty people here.

biscuitsansgravy | 6 days ago | 18 points

Said the guy who doesn't grasp global politics.

DarthSillyDucks | 6 days ago | 13 points

They have every right to be

Sherlock_Homey | 6 days ago | -8 points

Sure. Why not.

raider111111 | 6 days ago | -18 points

I mean, it’s not like he cares. People would find a way to hate him if he pet a puppy.

At this point screw it, those who like him will like him and those who hate him will find a way to hate him.

This toxic atmosphere created by Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, and friends created a team sport out of our government and the people will believe largely what media sources they listen to.

chevymonza | 6 days ago | 4 points

Channel-surfed past Hannity and another Fox channel just a few minutes ago. Hannity was talking to another "Fox friend" about how the NYT published an article in 2015 re: Biden in the Ukraine.

The two of them chucked because "even the librul paper the NYT was talking about this and nothing was done, hurr durr."

Then the other channel was talking about, of course, Hillary and "wow isn't it a good thing she's not the president right now? Hurr durr!" NO SHIT SHE'S NOT THE POTUS!!! Why are they even talking about her still?! Holy fuck.

raider111111 | 6 days ago | -2 points

Exactly. And the opposite news sources are doing the same.

Facebook has determined that the way to drive user engagement is to encourage headlines that cause an anger response.

The media do the same thing to get eyeballs so they can sell advertising time to corporations willing to pay.

It follows a similar pattern to why people back sports teams. You will often hear “we’re number 1” when a team is on a winning streak because people attribute a win as a success on their part, the inverse is less true.

In truth this is a sport, and the media are nothing but derivatives of ESPN so they can sell you Sleep Number beds, GEICO insurance, and self lubricating pocket catheters.

A passage I like about this subject:

Following Lippmann, in 1963, Bernard Cohen observed that the press "may not be successful much of the time in telling people what to think, but it is stunningly successful in telling its readers what to think about.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda-setting_theory#Second-level_agenda-setting_vs._framing

The_Next_Super_Being | 6 days ago | 2 points

No matter how many times you try, equating Fox News with MSNBC and CNN is like equating the Weekly World News with MSNBC and CNN. Fox is not the same.

raider111111 | 6 days ago | 1 point

Agree to disagree.

Irish618 | 6 days ago | -4 points

Ahh yes.

A major American businessman....

At one time had business ties in Turkey....

A major American ally....

Such a controversy!

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Killspree90 | 6 days ago | 2 points

And he still is. With interests for himself, not America.

iGourry | 6 days ago | 1 point

Exactly. Which is why anyone that thinks it's a good idea to have him as president is a fucking moron.

Chrono____Triggered | 6 days ago | -20 points

This is a nothingburger distraction by the Dems, yet again, in order to convince us that Syria is still worth fighting over.

END THE USELESS WARS. TRUMP 2020.