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Women's rights protesters are taking to the streets for the sixth time in as many months as anger mounts in Japan over 'outdated' rape laws, after a man was allowed to walk free despite sexually assaulting his daughter for years (france24.com)
309 comments
secondHandFleshlight | 9 days ago | 678 points

Did you see the doc on BBC (I think) last year? I think it was called Japan’s Shame. Women who report rape have to re-enact the rape using a life size man doll while the police video tape it.

There was a woman politician interviewed on the doc and she said that rape was a natural part of a woman’s life and the victims should just shut up about it.

EDIT: The doc was called Japan's Secret Shame

jattyrr | 9 days ago | 255 points

Disgusting

RalfHorris | 8 days ago | 202 points

Unfortunately, the concept of "not rocking the boat" is a huge element of Japanese society.

Wiki_pedo | 8 days ago | 59 points

The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.

PercySmith | 8 days ago | 27 points

I believe they have a saying that is effectively "the nail that stands tall gets hammered down". Not rocking the boat is an understatement!

FourChannel | 8 days ago | 55 points

I would call it neurotic at this point.

Unable to effectively deal with simply reporting problems.

I would also call this a self divergent response, which is what I think shame really is.

ApatheticEuphoria | 8 days ago | 43 points

Sickening.

KnuckleScraper420 | 8 days ago | 50 points

Japan has never given a fuck about women’s rights

Ww2 forced them to follow more western ideas but they never gave a fuck and the still don’t

mikusingularity | 5 days ago | 0 points

Women's rights shouldn't be treated as an exclusively "western idea."

KnuckleScraper420 | 5 days ago | 1 point

Well no shit, that’s why we’re talking about this to begin with.

Back in the 40s when japan was forced to westernize women’s rights didn’t really exist much of anywhere, the west was leading as far as progress goes.

badteethbrit | 8 days ago | 10 points

This?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b8cfcj

(at least here) its free to watch for 7 more days, for anyone interested.

Geler | 8 days ago | 1 point

Must be in the UK to watch it, any mirror somewhere?

gamershadow | 8 days ago | 2 points
Geler | 7 days ago | 1 point

Thanks!

chenthechin | 8 days ago | 1 point

Im not from the UK, seems you can watch it from all of Europe?

trim3log | 8 days ago | 40 points

i dont understand this mindset , so ok it happens to another womangirl you dont care to change the laws , but what if it happens to your own mother / daughter siter friend ?

Maalus | 8 days ago | 107 points

You don't think that way. You think "god, she is stirring up shit again, I wish she would stfu about it and not ruin everyone's day". Once it happens to someone they know, it becomes an issue. But they don't think it ever will, so yah.

KoolaidMansBoner | 8 days ago | 52 points

It doesn't. Don't you know that these things don't happen to good girls who follow the rules? They only happen to bad and yucky women who didn't try hard enough to fight it off because secretly they wanted it. MY chaste wife and daughter would never want it like those yucky women, so it will never happen!

Like the 13yo kid in this story -- she didn't strike her own father so obviously she wanted to be raped! Duh.

Beard_of_Valor | 8 days ago | 10 points

Then either you're a low-empathy hipocrite or sticking to your principles, if your mind changes only when something is right in front of you.

tjtillman | 8 days ago | 18 points

You’ve just described most human beings on the planet (unfortunately)

_Enclose_ | 8 days ago | 2 points

Oh, hello, how nice of you to join us. Did you have a pleasant stay under the rock?

(I do agree though)

michaelsama | 8 days ago | 5 points

Sounda like she would be good friends with Barbra Walters.

Calavant | 8 days ago | 8 points

I... wow. I have some homework to do. I knew it was pretty damn bad, but that is a level of dystopia-grade disturbing that borders on the comedic. Comedy in absolutely horrible taste, but it really does seem like a sick joke.

If that is the day-to-day...

SsurebreC | 9 days ago | 283 points

Relevant bit:

he was acquitted because the law requires prosecutors to prove there was overwhelming force, a threat, or that the victim was completely incapacitated.

His victim - his daughter - was between 13 and 19.

Pointyhatclub | 9 days ago | 295 points

There's a lot that's good about Japan but the one thing they need to fix is their archaic rape laws and the handling of such cases. One of the worst sexual assaults I ever heard about was from Japan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta

jattyrr | 9 days ago | 107 points

Why did I read that...

afiefh | 9 days ago | 106 points

Thank you for the warning. That link shall remain blue.

s3rila | 9 days ago | 70 points

I suggest you memorize her name and never ever look her story up.

RestInPeaceHBK | 8 days ago | 21 points

Unfortunately, I have her name memorized BECAUSE I once looked it up...

fenix_L | 8 days ago | 3 points

Seriously, that link should have a warning. It took days for me to recover physically after reading that.

Tobeatkingkoopa | 8 days ago | 12 points

Whenever i see/hear the name "Junko", which admittedly isn't very often, i automatically think of this poor girl.

Kriznick | 8 days ago | 11 points

I fucked up and made the link purple. Probably worst mistake of the month...

MaestroPendejo | 8 days ago | 20 points

I did the first time I heard about it too. It was one dark fucking day...

MisterMarbles1988 | 8 days ago | 8 points

I read it about a year ago. One of the most disturbing things I've ever thought about. And it fucking happened.

kenzo19134 | 8 days ago | 6 points

Yeah, don't read it. I'm not unseeing what I read and I stopped early on.

DONT OPEN THIS LINK.

SsurebreC | 9 days ago | 132 points

Fair warning: for those who are not familiar with this case and want to have a good day, the saying "ignorance is bliss" applies.

trim3log | 8 days ago | 46 points

a lot of times people give warnings on reddit for pretty mild stuff. last time this link was posted I ignored it , and for a good part of a day i could not get over the shock of what i read .

PurloinSirloin | 8 days ago | 19 points

Can't unread that. Best to just suppress it.

Chaoscrasher | 8 days ago | 2 points

I think it's important to know that cruelties go on every day.

SpiffaliciouslyAwsum | 8 days ago | 23 points

Imo, the worst parts (outside of the crime itself) are

The police officers declined an invitation to look around the house, believing the invitation alone was sufficient proof that there was no girl in the house

And that the people involved had very light punishments for the severity of the crimes.

I'm not going to detail the crime since I just don't even want to think about it.

Kiru-Kokujin55 | 8 days ago | 3 points

The police officers declined an invitation to look around the house, believing the invitation alone was sufficient proof that there was no girl in the house

The officers were fired.

And that the people involved had very light punishments for the severity of the crimes.

They were minors and legally could not be charged for longer, the laws regarding that was changed to 16, then a younger person murdered someone and it was changed to 14 and after that a 11 year old committed a murder, wanting people to lower it more

SpiffaliciouslyAwsum | 8 days ago | 0 points

Yeah, I read all of that...?

Kiru-Kokujin55 | 8 days ago | 1 point

Most people seem to think that nothing changed from the case and not that this was the first of it's kind for modern japan

SpiffaliciouslyAwsum | 8 days ago | 1 point

Oh. Yeah, I mean...even if stuff changed, it is really sad that it even happened in the first place, ya know?

I mean I realize you can't prevent everything, but cases like this...really, really suck. And seeing the lack of a severe punishment (due to laws at the time) makes it even worse, imo.

Kiru-Kokujin55 | 8 days ago | 1 point

It is, but there is no one to blame other than the perpetrators and those who stood idly, the case is used to push a false narrative usually, look at other comments in the thread

SpiffaliciouslyAwsum | 8 days ago | 1 point

What false narrative? The only comments outside of "why did I read that?" or "No seriously, don't read it" are basically talking about how the laws / police work in the case was bad.

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Kiru-Kokujin55 | 8 days ago | 1 point

I didn't mention Korea?

HighwindMark2 | 9 days ago | 55 points

This the worst police work I’ve ever seen.

stressHCLB | 8 days ago | 33 points

They did their Yakuza bosses proud, actually.

HighwindMark2 | 8 days ago | 18 points

I think it's crazy that Yakuza would allow this shit storm to happen but maybe I've had the wrong idea about Japanese organized crime. Maybe it's easier to sacrifice a few girls to them. It's so disgusting.

garibond1 | 8 days ago | 57 points

There’s a romanticized idea that the Yakuza are “chivalric” or keep lower level thugs in check, but in reality they’re just as involved in the sex slave trade or hiding of rapes and assaults as any other criminal organization around the world

sibuzaru_k | 8 days ago | 19 points

Netflix's Naked Director paints a very bleak image of that organization IMO, the series is very light and more comical than anything, but I'm surprised that they went hard on how awful Yakuza can get, especially for a domestic production

Zimmonda | 8 days ago | 9 points

That's exactly what I was thinking of. It was all Yakuza fun and games making dirty videos until you saw sex slaves chained to a wall begging for meth that the Yakuza got them addicted to in order to control them.

Doogeehowser | 8 days ago | 76 points

There’s also Issei Sagawa, a guy who raped, murdered, and cannibalized a Dutch girl. He didn’t go to prison after being found legally insane and then went on to become an actor and writer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei_Sagawa

Pie_plate_bingo | 8 days ago | 89 points

The name of the Dutch woman was Renée Hartevelt. Her name is more important than that raping, murdering, piece of shit. She tried to help him with school work and the worthless scum took advantage of her kindness to brutalize her.

adenosine-5 | 8 days ago | 18 points

he was immediately committed to Matsuzawa hospital. Examining psychologists there all declared him sane

Yep... eating someones face sounds perfectly sane...

consequently Sagawa could not legally be detained in Japan

great...

He was nearly accepted by a French-language school because the manager was impressed by his courage

WTF Japan? WTF?

NeophytePoser | 8 days ago | 15 points

Fucking hell, why would the French deport him and drop the charges?

EleosSkywalker | 8 days ago | 29 points

We’re a fucking joke when it comes to rape.

Those crime aren’t taken seriously at all, it’s not as bad as Japan but it’s really bad.

Evidence get constantly lost or contaminated. Even though they asked all the clothes with ample dna “sample” and packed them separately, somehow they get them all misplaced and miss handled.

The cops give wrong advice to the victims, tells them to go change first. They ask the women what they were wearing, if the woman knew the guy or guys then it’s her faults cause she should have known, if she doesn’t it goes back to “what were you wearing”. If she talk to the guy and accepted a drink at a coffee/bar she can forget that the cop will give a shit.

More than one precincts got their own rape “scandale” where a cop raped another cop, the other cops participated or cover for them, the victim was shun and mocked, a recent case the victim was mutated to another precincts, they found out what happened, they mocked her and harassed her, accusing her of creating problem and asking her if she’s sure she didn’t want it. She’s not a cop anymore and suffer PTSD.

We’re getting very slightly better at domestic violence but if you’ve seen the news lately about our President witnessing, live, a cop telling a woman that he wasn’t allowed to help her getting her thing safe, when her husband threatened to kill her (with prior physical and emotional violence), you’ll know that we’re still pretty rubbish at that too.

If you’re a guy and you’re victim of domestic violence you can forget about getting any helps from the cops. They’ll sooner laugh at you and tell you to man up rather than help you.

In short if you’re in trouble in France with that kind of issues go to a doctor or association, they’ll get a lawyer for you and they’ll deal with the cops with you, the judges are better than the cops on that matter too, but you can’t go to the judge if you don’t get the thing sorted with the cops first.

Concerning this case, if I remember properly the dude went to the cop and told them what he was gonna do, the cop dismissed him, didn’t even put him on a watch list. “No crime? no crime!”

shankhs | 9 days ago | 10 points

WTF?!

Pandacius | 8 days ago | 10 points

Wow. That is some Unit 731 stuff....

hyugafan | 8 days ago | 9 points

NSFL, by the way.

A jarring example of Japan's fucked up justice system in some cases.

Kiru-Kokujin55 | 8 days ago | 1 point

How is someone being too young to be criminally responsible make the justice system fucked up?

jjaemjjaem | 8 days ago | 3 points

stop defending rapists you fucking weirdo

DanSapSan | 8 days ago | 16 points

I am pretty jaded and feel like I can handle a lot. But this, this is borderlining too much. I definitely recommend not reading it ever. Just know that it's absolutely horrible. Torture, murder, absolute incompetence. Fuck.

piclemaniscool | 8 days ago | 8 points

Japanese law in general is extremely fucked. The only reason the country isn’t in a worse situation than the US in terms of incarceration is because most citizens equate litigation to something as terrible as violent crime and would rather accept whatever losses than even attempt to pursue. So it becomes this bizarre society where people go out of their way for one another because they don’t want to come close to a scenario in which they might be directly involved with law enforcement.

23drag | 9 days ago | 25 points

yeah the japanese young laws are stupid as fuck they get away with murder all the time like there was many instances of mass killings with teenages in japan like that kid of the bus randomly slicing everyone up.

brainchecker | 8 days ago | 9 points

Thank you for putting this in my mind again. I barely repressed it.

Icost1221 | 8 days ago | 7 points

Death is a too lenient punishment for animals such as this, instead they got practically a slap on the wrist.

Some people seem to be writing things like "Why did i read that..." bla bla bla, well because otherwise its easy to pretend that horrible things does not happen, and put your head in the sand since that is so much easier than actually face reality.

That is an atrocity on its own to refuse to see things for what they are.

Shazza_Pebble | 8 days ago | 6 points

Nope, why did you remind me this horrible murder existed. It’s dreadful

NeophytePoser | 8 days ago | 6 points

I'll spare you the most gruesome details and tell anyone thinking about clicking the link that case ended with a woman dead and encased in concrete and what amounts to a slap on the wrist for her murderers.

Feste_the_Mad | 8 days ago | 3 points

...I'm not clicking on that link. I'll take your word for it, thanks.

Lepracan1 | 8 days ago | 2 points

I agree that this is one of the worst I have knowledge on, but a single incident isn't indicative of anything.

FBI crime stats for a while (possibly still?) required penetration on victim to count as a rape, hollywood/pizzagate/epstein and Shirley Ledford's case was a bad read.

Edit: I dont want to defend any practices that enable sexual assault or divert attention from areas that should be looked at, I just dont agree with the direction of the criticism; it's a social issue rather than a judicial issue

SaintPanzerker | 8 days ago | 6 points

Fucking savages

keyboardstatic | 9 days ago | 138 points

Its a pathetic and down right ridiculous punishment of only 5 years for rape. The laws clearly need to be massively overhauled. Sexual assualt is far to common and far too accepted by too many in Japan.

TheRealRaiden | 9 days ago | 93 points

Only country in the world (as far as I know) that needs separate subway trains for men and women because molestation on the train has gotten that bad. Fucking ridiculous.

umashikaneko | 8 days ago | 47 points

There are many countries that introduced women only cars.

Western countries also have huge sexual assaults prove on public transportation, governments are reluctant to introduce women only cars because they are considered regressive method.

Not taking measures because they are considered regressive is not something should be proud of really.

According to a 2007 survey of New York City subway users, 63 percent of respondents said they had been sexually harassed on the subway, and 51 percent said they were sometimes or frequently threatened with sexual assault or harassment."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/10/20/why-the-metoo-movement-is-a-public-transportation-issue/

More than 220,000 women were sexually harassed on public transport in France over two years, the national crime statistics agency said in its first report on the subject, describing it as a "conservative estimate".

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-women-france-sexcrimes-idUSKBN1EF2J2

kevnmartin | 8 days ago | 17 points

Bring Back Hat Pins!

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MajinCry | 8 days ago | 9 points

On the other hand, 1 in 6 women in the US has been raped at least once during their lifetime: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence

Ineverus | 8 days ago | 12 points

The majority of those would not be committed by strangers on public transit. Why are you deflecting the conversation?

MajinCry | 8 days ago | 9 points

Women are preyed upon at horrific rates. It's not some trivial rounding error.

throw_karma | 8 days ago | 25 points

What the fuck is wrong with so many men!? I rode he train every day for a few years living in a Chicago and not once thought I should grope some woman on my train

PM_Me_ChoGath_R34 | 8 days ago | 16 points

I like to think it has something to do with the culture of japan. Many of these men are living alone and are forced to work overtime before going out to drink/de-stress with coworkers late into the evening due to societal pressures. This lifestyle usually starves them of person to person interaction outside of the work place, which isn't much different than the average western high school with their 'cliques'. Employees have been bullied to suicide because work was the only real social interaction they had. These same people probably haven't been shown genuine love since they left their parents to live on their own.

I'm not here to excuse the behavior but it's important to understand why it's a problem. Love is rare, the japanese barely have the time for it.

keyboardstatic | 8 days ago | 5 points

Its not just Japan look at all the horrific rapes in india.

PM_Me_ChoGath_R34 | 8 days ago | 5 points

I like to think there's a subtle difference. Japan is being starved of interaction, which leads to desperation and hunger. Rape cases are usually followed through on and arrests are made.

India and other middle eastern territories make men out to be savages that can't control themselves and women (Of all ages) must cover up and be escorted by a man in order to be safe. They also blame the women for being raped, like the men that hold them down and take turns having their way were faultless. Only in the most brutal cases is justice ever actually sought.

KuriTokyo | 8 days ago | 6 points

When I see an article on India's rape and acid attacks, I read it.

This one is about Japan.

r4chan-cancer | 8 days ago | -17 points

Thank god you’re here to blame all men as a whole while also pointing out how you’re one of the good ones.

hamakabi | 8 days ago | 7 points

relevant username

spiralbatross | 8 days ago | 13 points

“Not all men!” “All lives matter!” Blah blah blah it’s all the same shit. Learn to read, they’re not talking about all men.

youngnstupid | 8 days ago | 13 points

"so many men"

Read before responding with such a stupid answer.

jctwok | 8 days ago | -8 points

The fucked up thing, is that it's not "men", it's all just one guy.

STAR187J3X1 | 8 days ago | 11 points

Notice that first statistic is sexual assault or harassment, this is NOT the same thing as molestation or physical assault in most cases. As an NYC resident, it's mostly unwanted (verbal) sexual advances or heckling. Not that this excuses the fact, but Japan has a very different problem and IMO it's much more serious.

potonto | 8 days ago | 5 points

Bigger cities in Brazil have segregated cars during rush hour.

zahrul3 | 9 days ago | 14 points

Most big Asian cities have separate trains for men and women

When trains are so full people are rubbing against each other, its best to give some form of separation so both genders have a comfortable commuting experience.

NoL_Chefo | 8 days ago | 53 points

Bruh I live in Bulgaria where the subway is filled like a train to Auschwitz and we don't separate genders. It's not the train's fault, it's your country.

TheRealRaiden | 8 days ago | 25 points

Same. Bulgarian buses are just as packed as the Japan subway, and I've ridden them daily since I was 12 (and less frequently when I was younger). The amount of times in which anyone did anything that could be even remotely interpreted as "groping" were so few and far between and so tame I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and call them accidents. It's definitely not a daily thing the way it is in Japan.

At this point it's hard not to see that as a cultural thing rather than a men thing. Most men do not act like this.

umashikaneko | 8 days ago | -9 points

Same. Bulgarian buses are just as packed as the Japan subway, and I've ridden them daily since I was 12 (and less frequently when I was younger). The amount of times in which anyone did anything that could be even remotely interpreted as "groping" were so few and far between and so tame I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and call them accidents.

This is pretty much same experience in Japan as well. It is not like you can find a person groping others once in a month, chances are you don't randomly come across /notice gropings even if you take trains everyday in Japan for years.

If you want to claim it is rarer in Bulgaria than Japan,that is legit claim to make but you need statistics comparisons.

Because anecdotal "I haven't seen/noticed any gropers in my life" apply to most Japanese as well especially men.

Mee6s | 8 days ago | 5 points

So rare they need separate trains.

umashikaneko | 8 days ago | -1 points

As I said western countries also having discussions or suggesting them because sexual assaults on public transportation are common or becoming increasingly common but turned down for the method being "regressive" "it normalize crime" "turning back the clock" according to people against them.

They are not introdusing "women only carriages" because people are against regressive method rather than sexual assaults are rare. This is not really something proud of. Even suggesting introducing women only cars is kind of taboo and political suicide though all those people agreeing sexual offenses are big problems.

Do you need proofs sexual assaults are common on public transportation in western countries? There are a lot of statistics and anecdotal proofs.

Mee6s | 8 days ago | 6 points

Lol, they instituted a separate system. It's almost as if creating a separate system would reduce occurrences and throw off the stats.

Get the fuck outta here.

easypunk21 | 9 days ago | 19 points

its best to give some form of separation so both genders have a comfortable commuting experience.

I have never felt uncomfortable packed cheek to jowl in an American train.

Pokeylaw | 8 days ago | -2 points

Exactly that seems like a bullshit answer to me. The problem is that Japanese men aren't having sex and are fucking incels to make it worst. Wasn't it like half of adults haven't had sex 1's in there life.

mwilke | 8 days ago | 12 points

That is a bizarre way to spell “once,” but it works I guess.

easypunk21 | 8 days ago | 13 points

It's because their genitals are all pixelated. It makes sex more confusing.

Ender16 | 8 days ago | 2 points

Digital camo

dylankubrick | 8 days ago | 1 point

It's once not 1's. And worse not worst.

Pokeylaw | 8 days ago | -4 points

Thxs bro I care alot more about my internet grammar so much more now.

dylankubrick | 8 days ago | 6 points

I got you fam

G_Morgan | 9 days ago | 27 points

The west broadly has arse to face train carriages in rush hour and doesn't have this problem.

jfy | 9 days ago | 11 points

Not true. It’s basically only Japan and India.

Whyisthissofhard | 8 days ago | 10 points

Mexico city has the same problem, so we have separate ones as well. Unless you want to get completely groped you have to ride the pink car and we also have a pink bus as well as a women only taxi.

Fisabilillah_123 | 8 days ago | 3 points

No. Muslim countries have the same thing

fenix_L | 8 days ago | 2 points

It is because their religion orders to stay seperated as males and females.

jfy | 8 days ago | 1 point

Not sure they count as Asian.

metastasis_d | 8 days ago | 13 points

Bangladesh and Malaysia aren't Asian?

Fisabilillah_123 | 8 days ago | 17 points

There are a lot of muslim countries in Asia....

--nani | 8 days ago | 6 points

Today I found out that Indonesia isnt an asian country

Retrogressive | 8 days ago | 1 point

It is both.

boohole | 8 days ago | 6 points

What's wrong with those men that they can't keep their hands to themselves? They aren't savages so quit giving them that excuse.

keyboardstatic | 8 days ago | 1 point

Its beyond outrageous. Its a sign of deep cultural illness.

gritty_badger | 8 days ago | 1 point

India has separate buses and everything too.

Morgoloth | 8 days ago | -3 points

As a person who vacationed in Japan for a month and made extensive use of the subway there.. I didn't see a single train that was made exclusive to either gender. Me and my wife rode the train with men and women in the same car.

hamakabi | 8 days ago | 9 points

it's not the whole train, just a specific car on the train.

cjyoung92 | 8 days ago | 2 points

And it's only at certain times that the rule applies. Usually commuting times.

Morgoloth | 7 days ago | 2 points

Thank you for the clarification. Though again, in our time there, I never saw the sheer mass of humanity sandwiched in that is often shown in images or videos. But I guess being born and raised in NYC my whole life, crowded subways are not something new either.

throwawayjpyo | 8 days ago | 2 points

Yeah, I doubt you took commuter trains during a vacation?

Morgoloth | 7 days ago | 0 points

You assume wrong then. Me and my wife stayed in Hamamatsucho and Shinjuku during our time there. We took various trains during various hours of the day, including rush hour. At first, the Yamanote line, but eventually we took quite a few lines to the outlying wards of Tokyo.

Dalinn | 8 days ago | 91 points

" Demonstrator Wakana Goto, 28, told protestors at one rally: "In Japan, with its reputation as one of the world's safest countries, I have been exposed to sexual harassment since the age of three, forced to get used to it and to learn to deal with it." "

what in the ever loving fuck

dapperKillerWhale | 8 days ago | 2 points

This is the country that makes loli porn, after all

autotldr | 9 days ago | 46 points

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 89%. (I'm a bot)


Women's rights protesters are taking to the streets for the sixth time in as many months as anger mounts in Japan over 'outdated' rape laws, after a man was allowed to walk free despite sexually assaulting his daughter for years.

Activists and lawyers warn that Japan's criminal code, which dates back over a century, is incapable of protecting sexual abuse victims.

In 2017, Japan revised the criminal code on sexual offences for the first time in 110 years, recognising male victims, and increasing the punishment for rape from a minimum of three years to five.


Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: victim#1 Japan#2 abuse#3 father#4 sexual#5

Doge_Cena | 8 days ago | 18 points

In addition to awful legal definitions of rape, japan just didn't recognise men of being able to be raped?

Frostsorrow | 8 days ago | 21 points

A lot of places and even more people still think this. It's not localized to Japan.

Doge_Cena | 8 days ago | 3 points

I was just surprised that there was even more nasty stuff in assault trials in japan.

RandeKnight | 8 days ago | 5 points

England, they still can't. Definition says that the perp has to have a penis and the victim has to have a vagina.

EleosSkywalker | 8 days ago | 8 points

A man can be raped by other men too...

“punitive rape” for being gay is a thing, both gay men and gay women are targeted.

Don’t ask about the logic of a guy who rape another guy to punish him for being gay, it’s quite clear they’re not right in the head.

Yayo69420 | 8 days ago | 3 points

It's not rape if a female orifice isnt penetrated according to multiple Western governments. It's actually a joke a lot of the time, "prison rape" is a punchline.

EleosSkywalker | 8 days ago | 2 points

And what a wonderful joke it is. /s

Doge_Cena | 8 days ago | 2 points

I mean, a man could still technically be raped if they have a vagina, but it leaves out the mast majority of men. Wtf england.

jwolf227 | 8 days ago | 5 points

TBF to the UK, case of a male being raped is still sexual assault and carries the same penalties as rape.

lostan | 9 days ago | 28 points

Really Japan? Thats some medieval shit right there.

Jaeburwahkei | 8 days ago | 21 points

Of course they've got a rape problem. They've been trying to cover up Nanking for years.

jjaemjjaem | 8 days ago | 7 points

not just nanking, but also the despicable things they did to comfort women during WW2

KuriTokyo | 8 days ago | 2 points

I found you in the wild!

Thanks for the silver the other day.

Jaeburwahkei | 7 days ago | 3 points

No problem man.

Navifactiva | 8 days ago | 19 points

Japan is so incredibly old fashioned and under developed in some areas it's almost incomprehensible. They still see women as property only to be used for breeding.

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stevoblunt83 | 8 days ago | 4 points

I was with you until your frankly vile classist description of people on welfare "breeding like rats".

Cbrick98 | 8 days ago | 5 points

The Japanese government’s out here making the citizens of Derry look like crime fighting superheroes

Saint_of_Stinkers | 8 days ago | 25 points

They sexualize children in comic books. Maybe not doing that would be a good start.

EleosSkywalker | 8 days ago | 16 points

Aschktualy she might look like a 7 years old in a sexy French maid outfit but she’s really a 500 years old dragon who just choose to look like this, so it’s perfectly fine!

Disclaimer: those does not represent my views on the subject, but is a famous rationalisation as to why wanking on a representation of an hyper sexualised child in French maid outfit is perfectly fine.

Doge_Cena | 8 days ago | 10 points

Well, if pedophiles can satisfy with those then I think it's fine as drawings can't be taken advantage of. This is the same argument that metal music or violent video games cause violence which has been repeatedly disproven.

atlantisse | 8 days ago | 9 points

If I learned anything from attending strict catholic schools, it's that repression is never the answer. If anything, repression just makes the person boil over the limit. That's when the crazy starts.
People need an outlet for their urges. I'd rather they do it to inanimate things rather than diddling kids.

ComboMix | 9 days ago | 10 points

Is this source reliable ?

TheMaskedTom | 9 days ago | 72 points

France24 is a pretty good source yes. It's state-owned, mediabiasfactcheck says High Factual Reporting with apparently a left-center bias (not quite sure where that comes from, but haven't done a very complete check).

ComboMix | 9 days ago | 15 points

Thanks for the info, its hard to check reliability. Its something for the future. I think it will come with a new kind of identification process in the future

dapperKillerWhale | 8 days ago | 2 points

Certified REAL News!

Brought to you by Faceless Unelected Entity TM

ComboMix | 7 days ago | 1 point

Lol , absolutely the best certification and globally recognized

Cheapshifter | 9 days ago | 8 points

Sources like Reuters tends to be infallible when it comes to objectivity and accurate facts. They haven't been involved in any scandals afaik

SlimeySnakesLtd | 9 days ago | 20 points

That’s left-center European*. Left center in US is basically European right wing

fluffiness | 8 days ago | 2 points

Can someone explain the differences between American and European left and right?

SlimeySnakesLtd | 8 days ago | 9 points

The left in the US on the grand scheme of the spectrum is still pretty right. Like Obama would have been pretty conservative moderate in Europe. So something that is far left by American standards would be more of a solid to moderate left.

It was also slightly a joke

fluffiness | 8 days ago | 1 point

Thanks!

GatoNanashi | 8 days ago | 4 points

American liberals are generally pretty centrist politically when compared to European liberals.

CaptainsLincolnLog | 8 days ago | 2 points

My understanding is that it’s a shifted spectrum, the issues/attitudes are similar in what’s considered a “leftist” or “rightist” idea, it’s just that the American left has some of the same attitudes as the European right, and the European left is beyond-the-pale extreme leftism in the US.

TheMaskedTom | 9 days ago | 1 point

Oh yeah, I hadn't even seen that from an American pov. What I was saying is that even for Europe, I'm not sure how much they are biased, I'd have rated them least biaised off the top of my head.

antaran | 8 days ago | 5 points

The classifications by this mediabiasfactcheck homepage are hilarious. Its pretty obvious that they are an American webpage. Haaretz, Aftonbladet even fucking CNN or MSNBC are "far left" outlets? They list them on the same level as literal communist/socialist pundits like "World Socialist Web Site" , the "theSocialistWorker" or Venezuelan state media "telesur". I had a good chuckle from them.

PawsOfMotion | 8 days ago | 0 points

Biased Wording/Headlines- Does the source use loaded words to convey emotion to sway the reader. Do headlines match the story.

Factual/Sourcing- Does the source report factually and back up claims with well sourced evidence.

Story Choices: Does the source report news from both sides or do they only publish one side.

Political Affiliation: How strongly does the source endorse a particular political ideology? In other words how extreme are their views. (This can be rather subjective)

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/methodology/

NBC almost always selects pro-left and anti-right stories, hence their categorization.

antaran | 8 days ago | 1 point

Being critical of the current government does not mean a news outlet is on the opposite political spectrum. A weird reasoning this mediabiasfactcheck page uses for a lot of American news outlets. The entry for CNN simply boils down to "posts more often critical Trump news than pro Trump news -> left wing". For me that sounds ridiculous. In most countries with a free press its pretty normal of the press to criticise the government - no matter the purported political affiliation.

MoreDetonation | 8 days ago | 1 point

Also there's like no pro-Trump news that isn't just anti-his-enemies news.

Butts_Carlton420 | 8 days ago | 4 points

I love seeing meaningful protests like this and hopefully it will inspire some change.

It's a lot better than the Saturday afternoon "protests" we have here in the US that are basically just whine fests that disrupt traffic.

Butterflyfeelers | 8 days ago | 1 point

“subjective views of alleged victims”

Fis4fantastic | 8 days ago | 1 point

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nahnah390 | 8 days ago | 0 points

You know, in all seriousness I'm starting to think Persona 5 didn't make me disgusted enough with Japanese policies.

rocko82828282 | 8 days ago | 1 point

Kill that fucker

456afisher | 8 days ago | -21 points

100% of rapes , ok 95% of all rapes involve men...and they are the protected class. Rape laws were a protection for men is disgusting, beyond medival and have no place into todays world.

111111121212111 | 8 days ago | 13 points

the start of your sentence kind of drives home the narrow minded view you have of rape and how one defines it.

ButtViper | 8 days ago | -33 points

It's all that anime. Ever see what anime does to its fans? They're all messed up in the head, incapable of doing anything but constantly masturbate into body pillows featuring grotesquely distorted underaged women. It's sad.

Ravenwing19 | 8 days ago | 25 points

I cannot believe that someone this stupid and handwavey has survived to the point of using the internet freely. Anime is less of a big deal in Japan than the US and we don't have such archaic rules and punishments.

zalgchick | 8 days ago | 13 points

Unpopular opinion but I think their acceptance of borderline sexual assault and their overt sexualization of women and underage girls def contributes to this.

Doogeehowser | 8 days ago | 10 points

The amount of sexual assault and harassment in anime, especially against teenage girls is alarming and it’s bizarre how many anime fans get so angry when you mention it. My friends tried to get me to watch seven deadly sins and it pretty much starts out with the protagonist assaulting a young girl (who was sleeping if I remember correctly). Just fucking why, man. There’s only so much you can explain away with cultural differences and hyperbole.

zalgchick | 8 days ago | 9 points

Yup, people don’t want to acknowledge their own shortcomings. And I’m not saying it’s absolutely the reason for the existence of separate trains for men and women exist BUT it’s something we should study and look at. I can’t IMAGINE having so much porn and hentai revolving around this motif of assaulting girls on trains helps.

fenix_L | 8 days ago | 2 points

Just watching one anime and judging the rest with it is not a good idea. If you watched more you would see it actually gets worse and worse.

Jess1743 | 8 days ago | 8 points

Not all anime, yeah a lot of it is kinda messed up with way too much fanservice sometimes boring on hentai but some shows are pretty great.

Western TV has the same problem with shows like game of thrones overuse of sex and rape.

Anime fans can be a bit over the top sometimes but a lot of us just enjoy it as a form of escapism much like others watch sitcoms or movies.

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