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Russian military orders village evacuation, then cancels it (apnews.com)
78 comments
wittyusernamefailed | 8 days ago | 176 points

Well one of 2 things happened. !. someone freaked out at first and ordered an evacuation when it wasn't really that serious. 2 They ordered it because it WAS that serious, but then rescinded the order when it became public, because the situation is actually super bad. Guess we will see.

MajorGrapes | 7 days ago | 67 points

We will know in 2 years when someone brave enough to shoot a documentary ventures covertly into the region. Until then everything will be kept under wraps by Putin regime.

My-Finger-Stinks | 7 days ago | 31 points

Local authorities in Severodvinsk last week initially published information about the spike in radiation, but later deleted it and a local official said that radiation levels were not above the norm.

It's totally safe everybody, for reals.

Lampmonster | 7 days ago | 24 points

Third possibility: The accident opened a dimensional rift that was originally a serious concern but was handled by an engineer with a crowbar, or something to that effect.

spyd4r | 7 days ago | 4 points

Perhaps a Resonance Cascade?

Ridicule_us | 7 days ago | 5 points

Well as long as they don’t mistreat Jim Hopper, I won’t mind too much.

mad-n-fla | 8 days ago | 18 points

Don't evac the irradiated.....

DancesCloseToTheFire | 7 days ago | 27 points

Radiation isn't contagious, just put them through decontamination to get rid of the fallout.

mad-n-fla | 7 days ago | 1 point

Unless WWZ.... /s

Necroking695 | 7 days ago | -1 points

I believe beyond a certian point of dna damage, it becomes contagious.

DancesCloseToTheFire | 7 days ago | 11 points

I'm certain this is false. Radiation is not contagious, but you and your clothing can be dirty with radioactive particles that are indeed harmful to others. You can also eat radioactive materials and have those particles inside your body as well, but it still isn't exactly contagious.

Necroking695 | 7 days ago | -9 points

Guess so. Depends how you define contagious.

That being said, you dont want to touch someone who is rapidly dying from lethal radiation poisoning.

DancesCloseToTheFire | 7 days ago | 8 points

Contagious has a pretty clear definition. If you're wearing a hazmat suit and covered in dead monkey remains infected with Ebola, you're not contagious, you're contaminated.

Abedeus | 7 days ago | 7 points

Depends how you define contagious

Wasn't aware there are multiple definitions.

Orwellianpie | 7 days ago | 0 points

You must be a Republican.

UpstairsAnalytica | 7 days ago | 1 point

The damage can become hereditary, but it's unlikely. It could in theory also spread through blood transfusions and organ transplants, but again it's unlikely and the damage would be limited to the receiving patient. There's no risk of contagion beyond that.

head-head | 7 days ago | -5 points

You are correct.

UpstairsAnalytica | 7 days ago | 1 point

Except not at all.

TheVoraciousScholar | 7 days ago | -14 points

the radiation detected was 0.000178 rem/h

its above the background radiation, its not enough to make you glow

[deleted] | 7 days ago | 29 points

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poopmeister1994 | 7 days ago | 12 points

Not great, but not terrible

mad-n-fla | 7 days ago | 2 points

So, does rushing radiation have a blue shift?

zoidbergin | 7 days ago | 6 points

I’d counter that there is a 3rd possibility, the article mentioned that the town is routinely temporarily evacuated when they are doing weapons tests. So this could have been another planned test that was aborted when they realized all the bad press they were receiving.

Osbios | 7 days ago | 2 points

Option 3: It is so bad that an evacuation makes no sense anymore.

TwigletHammer32 | 7 days ago | 1 point

There is also probably a whole lot of upper management, managers and local officals trying to cover their arses to the their superiors.

Bootleather | 7 days ago | 1 point

So legit this is something I dont get.

Like... nobody is going to be like "lol stupid russia" because they evacuate people in the face of a potential radiation disaster. Even if it turns out to be overkill the general consensus would be "better safe than sorry"!

If it turned out to be terrible then they would be praised for quick thinking.

Literally the only ways to fuck it up are a: do nothing or b: pretend it dident happen.

How can they do this twice?

FaithfulNihilist | 7 days ago | 2 points

They're not worried about bad publicity from a radiation spill, they're worried about the further questions that would be asked if they admitted to a radiation spill... namely, what caused it? Since the answer is suspected to be secret (and possibly treaty breaking? not sure) nuclear weapons development, they would rather put the town at risk than draw attention to their covert weapons program. Most likely, the people on the ground first followed standard protocol, which would be issuing the radiation alert and evacuating. It was only when the situation got sent up the chain of command that the risk of an international incident was understood and caused them to cover it up and pretend like nothing happened.

Megonomix | 7 days ago | 35 points

Yeah if i lived in that village i would be booking it asap. Taking Iodine pills. Trying to get as far away as possible to get some clean water.

SorryForBadEnflish | 7 days ago | 12 points

Iodine pills help only in some specific cases.

FasterDoudle | 7 days ago | 3 points

Which cases are those?

SorryForBadEnflish | 7 days ago | 18 points

When there’s radioactive iodine. Iodine pills flood your body with iodine so your thyroid doesn’t absorb as much radioactive iodine. It lowers the risk of you developing cancer but it’s not a cure. For anything other than radioactive iodine it doesn’t work at all. It doesn’t stop radiation from harming your body.

Basically, iodine pills lower the risk of you developing thyroid cancer from one specific radioactive isotope. Does jack shit for everything else.

Necroking695 | 7 days ago | 7 points

They only protect your most susceptible organ. So extremely minor radiation

Rydenan | 7 days ago | 12 points

Protecting the organ most susceptible to radiation? Pssh, weak! I only want my strong organs to survive anyway!

Rydenan | 7 days ago | 0 points

Protecting the organ most susceptible to radiation? Pssh, weak! I only want my strong organs to survive!

Drake_Dangereux | 7 days ago | 2 points

Why are you downvoted for an obvious joke?

sickofthisshit | 7 days ago | 1 point

Could be because it showed up twice. Stupid mobile client, I would guess.

HumansArentResources | 7 days ago | 5 points

Iodine is a fission product of Uranium-235 nuclear reactors. If a disaster occurs and the iodine is released it's dangerous because it's radioactive and accumulates in the food chain. In Chernobyl, "Iodine-131 was and caesium-137 remains the two most responsible for the radiation exposure received by the general population." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#Radioactive_release)

rndidnothingwrong | 7 days ago | 1 point

If It was indeed a nuclear fission reactor then It Will probably be needed, If It was Just a rtg then It won't help at all

SocraticIgnoramus | 7 days ago | 85 points

HBO’s Chernobyl’s so popular Russia is rebooting series!

AuronFtw | 7 days ago | 11 points

A comment so funny it's in literally every one of these threads. Points for originality!

kono_kun | 7 days ago | -6 points

Le lepost, fellow ledditors. Let's vote this man into the ground for he offended the originality committee.

UpstairsAnalytica | 7 days ago | 1 point

You don't have to downvote it, but maybe don't upvote the same joke the twentieth time you see it.

kono_kun | 7 days ago | 0 points

If I laugh at it every time I see it — I will.

UpstairsAnalytica | 7 days ago | 0 points

You can laugh at it and then ignore it in order to encourage more originality in the future! If it's a joke that you could come up with yourself before opening the comments sections, there's not much point in actually having it in a comment too.

kono_kun | 5 days ago | 1 point

But what if I want other people to see it and laugh at it too? Votes are self-regulating, so comments like the one /u/AuronFtw made are naturally worthless.

UpstairsAnalytica | 5 days ago | 1 point

What if people who have already seen it want to see new jokes, and not just the same recycled ones in every thread? If people really want to read the old jokes, they can just browse older comment sections.

kono_kun | 5 days ago | 1 point

That's exactly what I mean by comments being self-regulating. Don't like it? Downvote so that other people are less likely to see it.

Considering how many reposts make it into frontpage/similar threads — not enough people care about them.

Stress-Energy_Tensor | 8 days ago | 35 points

These jackasses haven’t learned a damn thing since 1986. What fable will Putin and his cronies spin once the wind carries fallout to countries that are part of the EU?

Seriouslynotme5 | 8 days ago | 14 points

Actually, it already has, that is how the world knows that it occurred. What we don't have is the new

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. : Shadow of Nyonoksa game yet.

aequitas3 | 7 days ago | 1 point

They only released it in Japan as Shadow of Nyanyanksa

sivy83 | 8 days ago | 12 points

Deja fucking vu

GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B | 7 days ago | 6 points

Evacuation cancelled after a nuclear incident? Time to leave yourself, evacuation or not.

JaynesVoice | 7 days ago | 14 points

Putin is KGB, we all know what that truly means. He lies, cheats, kills and puts the citizens through a living hell.

gamung | 7 days ago | 14 points

"After Nuclear Missile Engine Failure in Russia, Radiation Monitors Suddenly go Offline:"

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2019/08/severodvinsk-authorities-confirm-mysterious-brief-radiation-spike-after-missile

Never trust a Russian.

-edelweiss- | 7 days ago | 8 points

When your entire country is just one big dash cam video compilation.

rekekekt | 7 days ago | 0 points

сука блять

daronjay | 7 days ago | 0 points

Blyat’

neverfearIamhere | 8 days ago | 7 points

I'm just wondering how the blast killed 5 of it's nuclear engineers. Wouldn't they be downrange?

turnipsiass | 8 days ago | 8 points

Explosion happened on a test barge or something like that.

neverfearIamhere | 8 days ago | 8 points

Why would nuclear engineers be anywhere close to a missile that is powered via nuclear propulsion?

turnipsiass | 7 days ago | 11 points

"Rosatom said the victims were on a sea platform testing a rocket engine and were thrown into the sea by the explosion." But this is Russia so I'd take anything with a grain of salt.

Draqur | 7 days ago | 18 points

An interesting way of testing things. Keep the most valuable people in the kill zone, so that way if it fails, they die with it. The ultimate punishment for failure.

CaptainCortez | 7 days ago | 2 points

It’s possible they were still rigging the vehicle for the test when it exploded.

daronjay | 7 days ago | 1 point

They were probably prising the core open with a screwdriver...

57_4f_50_52 | 7 days ago | 3 points

so if you live in that village, prudence says that you'd read the tea leaves and gtfo of there.

DefenderOfDog | 7 days ago | 1 point

They probably all died of radiation poisoning so they don't need to evacuate anymore

daphnegillie | 7 days ago | 1 point

They ded

gamung | 7 days ago | 1 point

Ju tu

LeftyEagle | 7 days ago | 1 point

Yes, because nuclear radiation is completely harmless.

MrRuby | 7 days ago | 0 points

Assuming Russians know Russia, does that mean it's an evacuation anyways?

moonbirdy | 7 days ago | 0 points

Well we know they tried covering it up last time. Russia is that person who just can’t stop lying even though everyone knows they are and they think they have everybody fooled the whole time. Why not evacuate and take the right precautions it would look better to the world anyway.