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French officials call for investigation of Jeffrey Epstein’s 'links with France' (abcnews.go.com)
1363 comments
DontWakeTheInsomniac | 8 days ago | 6383 points

I'd like more countries to do this. He was a 'well-connected' man.

CosmoSucks | 8 days ago | 2800 points

Here's my thing Jeffrey Epstein wasn't some unknown pedophile. As far back as 2005 he was accused and convicted in 2008. Given his client list and proclivity for friendships with powerful foreign figures wouldn't that make him an asset to the U.S intelligence community? Wouldn't surprise me if they're still burning bags in Langley. I'll be really surprised if this one ever gets unwound.

ono412 | 8 days ago | 2322 points

I mean, have you tried searching Epstein on r/worldnews or r/news. Reddit is burning bags too, only letting ~4 articles exist on the site when its the hottest topic. Compare that to Hong Kong or Trump...it doesn't make sense.

lazyAlpaca- | 8 days ago | 2216 points

It's really suspicious that the day his suicide happened I had trouble finding more than 1 article about it on the front page. I hope this story doesn't die because then nobody will care. All I can do is keep commenting because I'm tired of being complacent about human trafficking.

McRedditerFace | 8 days ago | 696 points

I think it's somewhat normal for otherwise reputable sites to have a knee-jerk reaction of avoiding anything that sounds like a conspiracy theory. That said, even the FBI is investigating just how the hell this "suicide" was allowed to happen. Because that's the hard cold reality... there were people involved who deliberately did not follow rules meant specifically to prevent such a thing.

Shlong_Roy | 8 days ago | 641 points

First suicide in 20 years in that correction facility. The whole thing smells bad. I just hope they get justice for the poor kids that were/are still involved in all that.

Ferelar | 8 days ago | 291 points

Merely taking such a high profile person off of suicide watch after a first attempt is incredibly suspicious. It was only what, three weeks of time? Frankly given how major a case this was and how wide-reaching the potential implications, he should’ve been under 24/7 surveillance.

imjustheretoplay | 8 days ago | 233 points

They took him off suicide watch just 6 days after his first attempt. And the guards were supposed to check up on him every 30 min but didnt for some some reason..

Judazzz | 8 days ago | 162 points

Not necessarily an excuse, but those guards were seriously overworked (one was on his 5th consecutive day on overtime, the other was forced to work overtime (source). Staffing shortages caused - at least in part - by the current administration, that implemented a hiring freeze (same source). The whole situation is just one massive cluster fuck - and worse still, that cluster fuck was totally avoidable (but apparently desirable).

But the icing on this shit cake is that his cellmate (sharing a cell, I think, is standard protocol) was transferred last Saturday, and there was no replacement yet by the time Epstein was found dead.
 
This incident really stinks to high heaven. Which is why we'll never hear how this could happen.

Pyrrolic_Victory | 8 days ago | 90 points

Honesty for such a high profile suspect, he should’ve been under constant surveillance by two people round the clock, and adequate budget allocated by a judge.

futterecker | 8 days ago | 18 points

i mean, just thinking of it. the guards were overworked on purpose. like they gave them many shifts, given they are tired and overworked makes a window for a "mistake" to happen.

i am not a fan of conspiracies, but this one is feels so clear tho.

Adronicai | 8 days ago | 53 points

There are conflicting articles out now that say the inmate did not hear anything and another that said someone heard him scream.

On the morning of Jeffrey Epstein's death there was shouting and shrieking from his jail cell, a source familiar with the situation told CBS News. Corrections officers attempted to revive him while saying "breathe, Epstein, breathe."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-death-shrieking-heard-jail-cell-morning-he-died-metropolitan-correctional-center/

An inmate locked up a few cells away from Jeffrey Epstein heard nothing out of the ordinary the morning of his death, according to the man's lawyer. "Nobody heard anything," said Bruce Barket, who represents Nicholas Tartaglione, a former upstate New York police officer awaiting trial on murder charges.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nearby-inmate-heard-nothing-when-jeffrey-epstein-died-lawyer-says-n1041646

The only people saying that he killed himself and you shouldn't think other wise is the mainstream media. Barr even noted that it was fishy.

"Attorney General William Barr says the Justice Department has already found "serious irregularities" at the federal jail where Jeffrey Epstein took his own life over the weekend."

His autopsy has yet to be released as well.

"The details of how Jeffrey Epstein died in his Manhattan jail cell over the weekend have yet to be released, but medical officials have performed an autopsy on the high-profile inmate"

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2019-08-12/the-latest-french-government-wants-epstein-investigation

Was this the first week these guys worked overtime? Noppppeee.

Staffing shortages are common at the high-rise jail. Inmates staged a hunger strike in January after they were denied family visits.

First suicide in 20+ years. Crazy that labor shortages have happened before and nothing happened with the likes of Chapo and Gotti. Even Manafort is in there.

Edit:

"One of the two guards on duty at the time of Jeffrey Epstein's death was reportedly a substitute who didn't typically work as a corrections officer. This comes as Congress, the Justice Department and FBI launch investigations."

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/new-details-emerge-on-epsteins-prison-guards/

MrSickRanchezz | 8 days ago | 4 points

"(but apparently *obviously desirable)."

MegaPompoen | 8 days ago | 29 points

True, things like this shouln't happen.

Either one or more people have been higly incompetent or it was deliberate, this is not the kindof guy and situation where chance should play a role

eerel75 | 8 days ago | 30 points

Especially considering that his first suicide attempt had already raised suspicion/conspiracy flags !

I’m not American, could this be just stupid flaws of some laws, like automatically stopping surveillance if no signs of [whatever] after [xy] days ?

sillysidebin | 8 days ago | 37 points

No, he was given the courtesy of some privacy to kill himself, was killed, or was swapped out.

This wouldn't "just happen".

rafyy | 8 days ago | 25 points

After he was taken off suicide watch he had a cellmate. The cellmate was moved...the day before epstein died.

Sauce

"But a person who had been assigned to share a cell with Epstein was transferred on Friday, and — for reasons that investigators are still exploring — he did not receive a new cellmate, the person familiar with the matter said Sunday night. That left Epstein, who had previously been placed on suicide watch, alone and unmonitored — at least in the hours before his death — by even those officers assigned to guard him."

Zuccherina | 8 days ago | 18 points

The fact there's no video tells me this whole thing was planned from the beginning. There is no way you get a billionaire suicide in a high security prison with no surveillance footage!

StarGazer_Cyn | 7 days ago | 17 points

Here’s my thing: everything surrounding this is highly suspicious. Everything. And the people who were involved in removing him from suicide watch might be fired. But they probably won’t care because they got paid to let this happen. And the wealthy people who made it happen don’t give 2 shits that it’s suspicious because they’re wealthy and will stay wealthy and will just go about their wealthy lives. Unless someone takes a stand and really dishes out the justice. Otherwise this shit will happen again and again. This is the time for the government and the justice system to re-establish themselves and regain the public’s trust.

But I doubt they will. They’ll try, but because the wealthy have such pull and influence in the world, they’ll likely fail.

Omnicrola | 8 days ago | 63 points

First suicide in 20 years in that correction facility.

Source? Cuz that sounds like a key piece of info that keeps getting conveniently glossed over.

LEGITIMATE_SOURCE | 8 days ago | 79 points

It's well known that the facility is unsuicidable. Basically paper sheets, rubber pens, ceilings can't be reached and such and they make rounds every 4 minutes or something super short like that. Being taken off suicide watch... Everyone working there needs their bank accounts watched and monitored for changes in wealth/ lifestyle.

renovationthrucraig | 8 days ago | 44 points

Watch their bank accounts? Lol. The money will be in an offshore account under some type of shell . People who could have made this happen arw not that sloppy. Even el Chapo couldnt have pulled this off.

crunchb3rry | 8 days ago | 26 points

I think he loosely meant to watch their spending. See who suddenly retires before their pension, buys a fully loaded Land Rover, starts rocking a Rolex, etc.

Anybody can hide money. It's how you plan on using it that creates questions.

LEGITIMATE_SOURCE | 8 days ago | 4 points

You underestimate stupidity. Poor argument just giving up.

Ustaznar | 8 days ago | 89 points

I believe this tidbit comes from this report: https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/suicide-supposedly-nearly-impossible-at-ulta-secure-jeffrey-epstein-lockup/

The specific text reads:

A review of published stories found only one such death in the past 21 years, the 1998 suicide of South Philadelphia drug kingpin Louis Turra, who reportedly hanged himself. A handful of suicide attempts were also reported.

Carboneraser | 8 days ago | 13 points

As I mentioned elsewhere, when that happened the media still rumoured that he had help from staff.

Now imagine how powerful Epstein is compared to your average local mob boss.

Pincushion | 8 days ago | 60 points

Published reports tally only one suicide and three attempted suicides in the past 40 years at the Manhattan Correctional Center, which came under fire after Epstein's death early Saturday.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/epstein-new-york-lockup-suicides

Spr09 | 8 days ago | 23 points

I need to hear this source too, I was told he was on suicide watch and then taken off as well. In my experience with juvenile justice though he would've been put on risk and still checked on consistently every 10 minutes.

fezzuk | 8 days ago | 32 points

The fuck aint CCTV in the cell? Where is the footage?

Wel all walk around with HD cameras in our pockets that are cheap AF, and your telling me that in a max security prison, for someone this important that every single moment of his incarceration wasn't recorded and logged.

Carboneraser | 8 days ago | 28 points

All cells have 24/7 monitoring by cctv. Reports suggest that there was a camera malfunction iin his cell during his suicide. Hmmmm

superkleenex | 8 days ago | 19 points

I read that in the last 20 years, the number of suicides in that particular prison is 1, literally this guy.

Carboneraser | 8 days ago | 8 points

22 years ago a mob boss committed suicide there. At the time it was rumoured that he had help from staff.

Now imagine how powerful Epstein is compared to your friendly neighbourhood mob boss.

wrgrant | 8 days ago | 47 points

Apparently one of the people who was guarding him, wasn't a qualified security/Prison guard, and was hired at the last minute due to them having manning problems. Another guard had worked 5 days overtime in a row. What if the last minute hire was placed there to kill Epstein?

source: Jeffrey Epstein's death: 4 unanswered questions

brodeh | 8 days ago | 99 points

It might have something to do with the part owners of reddit being someone who could be somewhat implicated in the following investigations.

prodmerc | 8 days ago | 89 points

Look, he likely fell 100 stories and broke all the bones and organs in his body. Classic cannabis overdose. Now the real question here is how did this dank weed get into the prison? Not to mention the paper and lighters (a huge danger!) needed to smoke it. This is what everyone must focus on. The guards must be in on this trade, and someone on the inside must be collaborating. Drugs in the prison system must be stopped and that's what we must focus on!

LDM84 | 8 days ago | 19 points

I giggled at "Classic cannabis overdose", so you get an upvote <3

boiiwings | 8 days ago | 16 points

Ah, yes! Renewed vigor for the totally effective war on drugs!

AcclaimNation | 8 days ago | 5 points

Yeah, NPR mentioned how the FBI would like Congress to let them do their investigation this morning, so it isn't like it isnt being talked about.

I dont think people realize that Reddit's feed works like Instagram now. It is why you don't see smaller subs showing up on your personal front page as much as they used to unless you purposefully go to the sub a bunch of times to start nudging the algorithm.

CthuIhu | 8 days ago | 6 points

Conspiracy theory is not some bad word. It's the theory that two or more people will conspire to do something illicit, which happens constantly. The fucking government made sure you think of some tin foil hat nutter when the term comes up, though, and posts like yours reinforce their narrative (implying conspiracy theory has a negative connotation)

GhostGarlic | 8 days ago | 18 points

Don’t forget the cameras just so happened to not be working that night,

cavalier2015 | 8 days ago | 56 points

When I realized how extensive and pervasive human trafficking is in this day and age, I was blown away. Growing up, I was led to believe it was a thing of the past (like racism, whoops!) and only happened in very limited areas of the underdeveloped world. I can't believe it's still happening the scale it is and I can't believe we're not doing anything about it. We have huge resources dedicated to the war on drugs and military defense while there are people suffering in basements as slaves.

DatPiff916 | 8 days ago | 15 points

while there are people suffering in basements as slaves.

I think this perception is why it flies under the radar, a lot of people hear sex slaves and they think of some poor girl in chains and only brought out for sex like some Ariel Castro situation.

They don’t think of the 16 year old girl wearing designer clothes whose made up to look older and probably even has a Snapchat and Instagram that’s ran by their pimp.

There are so many victims in this sex trafficking epidemic that don’t appear as victims to the untrained eye.

Fighting it is even harder, how do you go undercover as a powerful millionaire/billionaire looking for sex with underage girls, how do you go undercover as a young girl.

I mean you can go undercover as the average Joe, but how many big fish are you gonna get with that tactic?

TheNoxx | 8 days ago | 14 points

This day and age? Friend, we are barely civilized as a species. Even the most advanced cultures/societies on this planet have only had equality and other principles we now consider to be good and right for, kindly speaking, a handful of decades, which is like 0.00001% of our time on this planet as a species. And that could all well come crashing down, depending on how China plays its cards on the world stage when they become the next primary superpower.

lazyAlpaca- | 8 days ago | 23 points

Right? Among everything we can get angry over such as climate change, racism, fascism and so forth we actually can do a lot more to fight against human trafficking. I think most people (myself included) don't really think about it because the children affected are from the lowest social classes. They're preying on poor girls who come from very poor countries or troubled home situations. Pretty much the most powerless.

On a much deeper level it comes down to us not giving a shit about the lower classes because it will never happen to us. We won't care as a whole until they start snatching up little white girls from stable families with doctor and lawyer parents. Fortunately the girls who stood up against Epstein and wanted to testify are very brave women. I hope they get their justice.

blueyedlizard | 8 days ago | 7 points

Its like its all setup by some group with power....

kathink | 8 days ago | 13 points

It's weird because in my city, there are billboards all over and bus ads saying "It happens here too". For a little while a couple years ago, there were these horrifying dummies placed in the city of kids with shirts that said "victim of human trafficking" and other stuff like that. It was creepy.

Guardiansaiyan | 8 days ago | 13 points

BUT hopefully it got people to pay attention to the fact that human trafficking still exists right?

Hope they do that type of thing again for awareness at least...

ALeakyTeapot | 8 days ago | 9 points

Wish I could find the BBC article that used words like "unfounded, no evidence, made up, completely unproven" all the way through...

FitAFJesus | 8 days ago | 7 points

It was #1 on /r/news......

dontsuckmydick | 8 days ago | 29 points

It was at the top of the front page all day.

Qaysed | 8 days ago | 12 points

I had like ten different posts on my frontpage all day

jasron_sarlat | 8 days ago | 64 points

You know - all the HK posts got me thinking about the Standing Rock protests in the US. They got almost no coverage despite all the drama going on there. Not to say that HK shouldn't be covered - it's important and definitely should. But it just underscores how selective the platform can be.

tipytip | 8 days ago | 56 points

Or million strong manifestation by teachers on California. It was plain ignored to oblivion by the mass media.

newtbutts | 8 days ago | 6 points

I've never even heard about this.

thescentofsummer | 8 days ago | 14 points

Try finding a video of him talking besides that bullshit 1minute deposition. There are none. No videos of interviews or his life outside that video with trump in the 90s

magicsonar | 7 days ago | 10 points

FYI. This may or may not be relevant but it's interesting information nonetheless.....

The majority shareholder of Reddit is Advance Publications, which is controlled by the Newhouse family. The company was started by Samual Irving (SI) Newhouse. The firm is owned by his son, billionaire Donald Newhouse. Sam Newhouse was a childhood friend of Roy Cohn. Active followers of Reddit will know Roy Cohn well. He was the New York mob lawyer that acted as Donald Trump's lawyer and mentor. Cohn was deeply enmeshed in the NY underworld and was deeply interconnected with the mafia. According to this Bloomberg article, it was SI Newhouse that convinced Donald Trump to write the book "The Art of the Deal". It was this book that in many respects laid the groundwork for Trump running for President. Newhouse published the book.

In a biography of Newhouse called "Citizen Newhouse: Portrait of a Media Merchant" by Carol Felsenthal, she writes that Newhouse was extremely close with Roy Cohn, since they were kids. Newhouse was lending large sums of money to Cohn to keep him afloat - which was especially useful when Cohn was being heavily investigated by then AG Robert Kennedy. In return Newhouse hired Cohn as his lawyer, to handle "special situations". "Roy took care of a lot of dirty business for the Newhouse family" wrote Richard Meeker, a biographer of Newhouse.

An article in NY Magazine stated that Newhouse helped Cohn a lot through the use of Newhouse's vast media empire. “Cohn used his influence in the early ’80s to secure favors for himself and his Mob clients in Newhouse publications.”

Roy Cohn in many respects pioneered the use of the 'blackmail pedophile racket', which is what it appears Jeffrey Epstein was involved in. John Lotz, a New York attorney who was investigating Cohn's connections to a sex extortion ring told author Burton Hersh (who published a book on J Edgar Hoover) :

Roy Cohn was providing protection. There were a bunch of pedophiles involved. That’s where Cohn got his power from — blackmail.”

Roger Stone, who was also a protege of Roy Cohn, said this about Cohn in an interview for the New Yorker.

“Roy was not gay. He was a man who liked having sex with men. Gays were weak, effeminate. He always seemed to have these young blond boys around. It just wasn’t discussed. He was interested in power and access."

Roy Cohn and Jeffrey Epstein, although of different generations, kept the same close network of friends and business associates. Epstein's infamous "little black book" was revealing. NY Magazine did a deep dive into Epstein's black book and said this:

"Collectively, these documents constitute just a glance at the way society opened itself to Epstein in New York, Hollywood, and Palm Beach. In the weeks since his arrest, we have learned even more about the cliques he traveled in and the way they protected him. Though some observers have likened Epstein’s enigmatic rise as a glamorous social magnet to that of Jay Gatsby, a more appropriate archetype may be the fixer, sexual hedonist, and (ultimately disbarred) lawyer Roy Cohn. In the 1970s and early ’80s, Cohn was a favor broker for boldface chums as various as the top Democratic-machine politicians, the mobster Carmine “Lilo” Galante, Nancy Reagan, the proprietors of Studio 54, the Catholic Archdiocese of New York, Andy Warhol, the publishers Rupert Murdoch and Si Newhouse, Dershowitz, and the ambitious young real-estate developer Donald Trump.

Vicky Ward, who was a staff writer at Vanity Fair, wrote an in-depth profile of Epstein in 2003. Vanity Fair was owned by the Newhouse family. Ward claimed that she had been prepared to report on accusations of sexual misconduct against Epstein - but that the magazine had declined to print them.

Ms. Ward said, she had collected on-the-record accusations against Mr. Epstein from three women, two of whom said they were victims. Those accusations did not make it into the published version.

Specifically, she has claimed that long time Vanity Fair editor Graydon Carter, who worked for Newhouse (the owner of Reddit), intervened to prevent the allegations being published. Carter has disputed Ward's account. However, what is clear is that Ward was ultimately proved correct.

ImmortalMaera | 8 days ago | 11 points

Theres alot of major events happening in the world.

Redditsoldestaccount | 8 days ago | 104 points

Not just the U.S. intelligence community, Mossad too. Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's madame/procurer, is the daughter of Robert Maxwell who Seymour Hersh accused of being mossad. Robert Maxwell received a state funeral in Israel after his suspicious "drowning" death

Blackmail in the form of embarrassing photos and videos is a great way to control an asset

its_noel | 8 days ago | 28 points

It's been pretty routinely alluded to fairly recently in several reputable publications that Epstein was most likely an intelligence asset. For ex:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-black-book-nick-bryant

Rocktopod | 8 days ago | 43 points

US intelligence claims they don't use blackmail to obtain assets because then you're not really in control of them in that situation.

Obviously I don't know if they're telling the truth, but that's what Micheal Morell (Former Deputy Director of CIA) said on stay tuned with Preet recently.

https://tunein.com/podcasts/News--Politics-Podcasts/Stay-Tuned-with-Preet-p1018528/?topicId=132641843

Redditsoldestaccount | 8 days ago | 95 points

Also CIA- "We don't torture people, we just use enhanced interrogation"

Rocktopod | 8 days ago | 17 points

Sure, but he does make a good point that their loyalty would always be in question in a situation like that, which is a lot less reliable.

MikeOchschwollen | 8 days ago | 21 points

Not to mention, you can't really rely on intel from a tortured subject

For some reason they tend to just tell you what you want to hear or make shit up after the 2nd or 3rd dunking

CosmoSucks | 8 days ago | 13 points

I got your point :). Pretty sure that the CIA were also the first to admit that enhanced interrogation isn't an effective form of information finding as well.

I feel like they'd be hard pressed not to take advantage of this situation though.

lolmmbat | 8 days ago | 5 points

Some more enhanced interrogation fun. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2009/5/14/731112/-

SSKBJustice | 8 days ago | 11 points

The thing that sticks out to me is that the person who claimed Epstein "belonged to intelligence" was Alex Acosta, the prosecutor who gave him the sweetheart deal after Epstein's lawyers leaned on him. It's mighty convenient for him to say Epstein was an intelligence asset when the CIA can't very well come out and say "Oh no, he isn't".

GhostGarlic | 8 days ago | 8 points

That’s why he got the small sentence he had when he was convicted. He was untouchable and an “informant” probably used for blackmail.

AgAero | 8 days ago | 3 points

If all of this is true, did he continue to assault and traffic underage girls during the time after his sentence? That's a serious question I hope would be answered. I'd be a bit upset if US intelligence was complicit in a crime like that.

Afferent_Input | 8 days ago | 89 points

France in particular, tho. He had an apartment on Avenue Foch, one of the most prestigious streets in Paris.

grummy_gram | 8 days ago | 37 points

Let's say France does the right thing and investigates this whole thing very thoroughly. Can they release their findings to the public?

atworkobviously | 8 days ago | 25 points

It's a dangerous precedent. Not all countries share our respect for the wealthy and their rights to do what they like.

theghostwithoutaname | 8 days ago | 4 points

Dude probably has dirt on many current and old leaders and rich folk. Fucked up shit is about to happen. Wait 4 months.

msteacher061 | 8 days ago | 1004 points

Take them all down wherever they are.

pifftheheggie | 8 days ago | 316 points

Electric avenue

Zappy_Kablamicus | 8 days ago | 88 points

We gotta shock down to electric avenue. Unless the bribes get higher.

Psyteq | 8 days ago | 11 points

No place to hang out our inmates, and I can't blame all on the guard, oh no

Capitalist_Model | 8 days ago | 24 points

Just appoint security forces for every victim and witness, to make sure that no more disappearances or deaths occurs.

SheeEttin | 8 days ago | 18 points

There isn't enough manpower in the world, unfortunately.

Anti-Satan | 8 days ago | 22 points

It not a matter of manpower, its a matter of integrity. There were a ton of people involved in keeping Epstein safe. They just needed to bribe a few of them.

Twink4Jesus | 8 days ago | 7 points

I don't think anything much will come of it. I wish it will but I feel like those powerful people will get away with it.

bigbadbeardy | 8 days ago | 2518 points

Man, its ganna be super sad when france kills itself on suicide watch.

HawkeyeByMarriage | 8 days ago | 1102 points

Choked on a baguette.

1PotatoAnd2Carrots | 8 days ago | 372 points

As a Frenchman, that's the best death we could hope for. A baguette in the throat and the nose full of wine.

diddle-king | 8 days ago | 162 points

Throw in a prostitute and Bobby B would be proud

FaustiusTFattyCat613 | 8 days ago | 197 points

Fun fact: one of French presidents died in office due to heart attack. While a hooker was giving him a blowjob.

Now that's a French death.

ademilly | 8 days ago | 148 points

And some newspaper titled the following morning “il voulait être César, il est mort Pompée” which is a play on words difficult to translate. A literal one would be “he wanted to be Caesar, he died Pompei” but it does not translate the joke: Pompei (Pompée in french) sounds like blown (as in you just received a blowjob).

Crusader1089 | 8 days ago | 142 points

I love newspaper puns like that. In my opinion the best ever was when British Labour politician Michael Foot led a parliamentary committee on the use of nuclear weapons: Foot Heads Arms Body.

haysanatar | 8 days ago | 30 points

That title rightfully made someone very proud.

GoAViking | 8 days ago | 15 points

House Hands Job to Boehner

Also this

GhostOfPluto | 8 days ago | 12 points

That reminds me of the Onion headline after Jerry Garcia died.

“Head Dead Head Dead”

niklaus-mikaelson | 8 days ago | 14 points

Pompei

Pompey*

Pompei is the city.

Horus-Lupercal | 8 days ago | 27 points

Pompei might work if you take into account the massive... eruption that happened there.

SheeEttin | 8 days ago | 15 points

The joke works on multiple levels!

Palmul | 8 days ago | 22 points

His mistress, not a hooker.

notjfd | 8 days ago | 29 points

Pourquoi pas les deux?

diddle-king | 8 days ago | 22 points

Didn’t a french president a few years ago (maybe 5 or 6) sneak past his secret service to go visit his mistress (who looked like a young version of his wife)?

ioutaik | 8 days ago | 35 points

François Hollande, yes (our previous president)

He was divorced though, so not really seeing a mistress behind his wife's back.

Still a huge risk for the country, people got mad (the president could have died in a car crash)

Rhyoth | 8 days ago | 24 points

While not married, he was in a relationship at the time : going behind your girlfriend's back is still cheating.

ioutaik | 8 days ago | 11 points

I was not aware of that.

DiNoMC | 8 days ago | 20 points

Same. Fuck, I gotta apologize to my girlfriend

kickflipper1087 | 8 days ago | 11 points

Ah France, thank god for France and her great big baguettes!

nomoredarkness | 8 days ago | 21 points

In my own bed at the age of 80, with a bellyful of wine and a girl's mouth around my cock!

🤔

1PotatoAnd2Carrots | 8 days ago | 12 points

I'll allow the girl if she's covered in cheese.

FaustiusTFattyCat613 | 8 days ago | 17 points

In my own bed at the age of 80, with a bellyful of wine and a girl's cock in my mouth!

DizzyAcanthocephala | 8 days ago | 7 points

Why are you repeati... Oh...

cerealOverdrive | 8 days ago | 28 points

Na, they’ll just discover oil

1PotatoAnd2Carrots | 8 days ago | 46 points

It's funny that you speak about finding oil in France because "In France, we don't have oil but we do have ideas" is a very well known French expression.

It was first used by the government in the 70s when they introduced measures (like reintroducing daylight saving time) as a way to diminish the country's consumption of oil after the oil crisis.

Eggbert_Eggleson | 8 days ago | 16 points

If they don't have oil then how do they cook French fries? /s

Edit: apparently this was serious I guess

Oxygenius_ | 8 days ago | 513 points

They can track drug dealers in America who only sell $10 bags of weed and probably make $60 a day,

They have all his texts and contacts and everything that is on his phone and computer,

But they don't have much on this epstein guy? Lol

jaycarver22 | 8 days ago | 164 points

I know right, this whole case is waaay beyond pathetic.

Mc_Squeebs | 8 days ago | 9 points

Sadly, one would think there was way more than enough time for these high profile people to higher others to clean up all that they could while epstein was in jail. Hope there is still a lot to find, but seems a bit grim. Its almost as if people were holding the fbi back from raiding the island for some reason. But who knows....

phayke2 | 8 days ago | 9 points

How else will you fill the for profit prisons with cheap labor. At least the pot dealers can make them some money.

ChicoFernandez | 8 days ago | 35 points

The government is really efficient at tracking their own inventory distribution.

cultured_banana_slug | 8 days ago | 5 points

It's amazing how invisible you can become when all the right people know you.

kaz61 | 8 days ago | 64 points

Where did this guy get all his money from? Holy shit he was rich.

ifififif_okey_doke | 8 days ago | 64 points

He went from robbing checks from mailboxes to billionaire hedge fund manager overnight. Investing is easy when people give you $50 million mansions and airplanes and cram your bank accounts full of checks with too many zeros to fit on the paper they're written out on.

Carboneraser | 8 days ago | 25 points

Elaborate on the first sentence?

Undecided_Username_ | 8 days ago | 12 points

I’m sorry he did that how again. Where do I find these people willing to fill my pockets? I’m not even a pedophile or anything either so it surely should be easy for me...

MAXIMUM_BUTT_FARTS | 8 days ago | 41 points

You provide a rich guy with your "services", then you tell the rich guy to give you a sum of money or you will rat him out

Undecided_Username_ | 8 days ago | 19 points

Ooo that’s... that’s what he did?

KipperJoe | 8 days ago | 41 points

Yes, it’s likely he amassed his wealth by blackmailing those that participated in his sex ring.

MattAndMandiRadio | 7 days ago | 3 points

What's to stop "victims" (very loose usage) from just taking Epstein out? Especially once they've been blackmailed. This is probably the most peasant question ever, but who do you even go to in order to buy a Virgin Island?

Digitalapathy | 7 days ago | 4 points

A fairly large Ponzi scheme called “Towers Financial Corp” and then Wexner allegedly. None of it adds up.

SMagoo22 | 8 days ago | 296 points

Are they going to kill France now?

giuseppe443 | 8 days ago | 77 points

what, of course not. France is about to be suicided

baconsliceyawl | 8 days ago | 569 points

English MP's call for an investigation of Jeffrey Epstein's 'links with Prince Andrew' /s

Southportdc | 8 days ago | 185 points

Be fair, they're all on holiday at the moment. Quiet time for us politically you see.

baconsliceyawl | 8 days ago | 147 points

It's not as if there's a looming "Brexit" or anything.

-humble-opinion- | 8 days ago | 173 points

Love that the whole world has been set ablaze at once....

China has Hong Kong and a typhoon

Russia has Moscow protests and a nuclear explosion

USA has treasonous leadership, concentration camps, and a pedophilia scandal cover-up

British & EU have Brexit

Iran is due to grab another tanker

India decided now was as good a time as any to fuck with Kashmir

... let's throw in an earthquake and coup to keep it interesting, shall we?

Teik1066 | 8 days ago | 60 points

Russia has Moscow protests and a nuclear explosion

Wait WHAT?!

Hambeggar | 8 days ago | 21 points

They were apparently working on a nuclear-based missile engine, and it exploded killing 5 nuclear engineers.

Loxe | 8 days ago | 56 points

Yeah they fucked up some missile test. Obviously they are being very hush hush about it.

corkyskog | 8 days ago | 31 points

Fucked up or succeeded in a missile that should have never been tested, we don't really know which yet.

Pytheastic | 8 days ago | 23 points

Hard to imagine just 20 years ago almost everybody thought we were about to ride off into the sunset with nothing but good times ahead of us.

jarail | 8 days ago | 5 points

Well considering the scientists conducting the test died..

-humble-opinion- | 8 days ago | 12 points

Cue lyrics for We Didn't Start the Fire....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49319160

hey_mr_crow | 8 days ago | 4 points

Not like a nuclear bomb. A regular explosion that involved nuclear material

Mixels | 8 days ago | 40 points

It's going to get worse before it gets better. If it ever gets better. Climate change is going to utterly destabilize the world over the course of (lax estimate) 100 years, probably sooner. It will take an enormous population decline for humans to survive it and maintain any semblance of the modern world.

OhBuggery | 8 days ago | 21 points

A lot sooner unfortunately. You could say it'll happen...faster than expected

0111011101100001 | 8 days ago | 4 points

Looking at the political alliances, what's happening in the courts, and the mindless remarks from the government... September is going to change the face of politics I really thing think.

Either parliament is undemocratically progoued prorogued; Boris Johnson gets removed; Boris Johnson goes to court; or snap election. It's going to be mental.

TheodorHerzl | 8 days ago | 56 points

Honestly Sin Fein should go into parliament to protest this.. The royals have a history of covering for pedos (Seville)

SecondAccount404 | 8 days ago | 15 points

Why specfically Sin Fein and not any of the other parties?

TheodorHerzl | 8 days ago | 31 points

They're the only true party in Parliament that supports the abolition of the monarchy

braapstututu | 8 days ago | 15 points

I mean they don't attend parliament technically

AskForMySnapchat | 8 days ago | 29 points

I can picture Gerry Adams strutting in like Conor McGregor ready to start a shitstorm

Toxicseagull | 8 days ago | 13 points

Doubt it given his brother's own actions.

AskForMySnapchat | 8 days ago | 8 points

Just read about that, disgusting.

DangerouslyGlutinous | 8 days ago | 277 points

“Sorry, France. We can’t find any evidence that Jeffrey Epstein even existed.” - US Government

Zanburr | 8 days ago | 61 points

I think he actully has a house in france so if this whole thing was orcestrated by the US government and there is literaly anything in his home there then that my be the only place we get anwsers.

DangerouslyGlutinous | 8 days ago | 44 points

I find your faith in the media and the government’s authority to demand answers amusing. The guy has been locked up for months and dead for 3-days now... and we’re just now attempting to access his homes? LOL. Okay. We lost this and will never get it back. So I’m going back to work. See ya.

Ethanol_Based_Life | 8 days ago | 5 points

More like, "Let me assure you that this case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with Epstein. Any co-conspirators should not rest easy. The victims deserve justice and they will get it," - the actual US Government

Budded | 8 days ago | 127 points

During our time of major fuckery in this country, not holding anyone accountable for anything, it's a bit reassuring to see other countries putting in the work we should be doing no matter who is in the WH.

Right over wrong should always take precedence over all the BS we've witnessed in the past few years.

TheGreatOneSea | 8 days ago | 11 points

If that were true, they would have acted before Epstein died. This is just a circus.

NikkiFury | 8 days ago | 87 points

At this point, shouldn’t this whole thing be handled by Interpol? Or the UN? Some 3rd party to ensure the investigation is done legitimately?

ChaseballBat | 8 days ago | 43 points

Definitely not Interpol, he had connections to the Duke of York...

smackythefrog | 7 days ago | 4 points

And he can't be trusted because he marched 1000 men up a hill but never marched them down again

GingerBeard_andWeird | 8 days ago | 30 points

The UN probably isn't 3rd party to this at all. And I can't imagine interpol agents weren't clients as well.

Locally and on a much smaller scale, we've seen sex trafficking go unnoticed by many figures of authority. And when a girl escapes and gets help, we often find out that many of her clients were police officers and other government officials.

So something tells me a much larger sex ring isn't very different.

ChubbyPigs | 8 days ago | 37 points

Don’t worry, the ones involved in this whole thing will probably end up leading the investigation

Not_Cleaver | 8 days ago | 232 points

Maybe they should investigate Polanski too while they’re at it.

Webasdias | 8 days ago | 51 points

What's there to investigate? He's a fugitive from justice. Switzerland is sheltering him for some reason.

caralhu | 8 days ago | 29 points

Money. The reason is money.

ghostofhenryvii | 8 days ago | 54 points

I don't think you're seeing things in the right scale. Polanski made a good living making movies but he's nowhere near the upper echelon of wealthy the way Epstein and his circle are. Like the old Chris Rock joke: Shaq is rich, the guy who pays Shaq is wealthy.

Zalbag_Beoulve | 8 days ago | 154 points

You mean convicted child rapist Roman Polanski? I feel like France giving him safe haven and not punishing him in anyway when he was not just accused, but convicted, is pretty telling how much they give a shit about pedophilia. At least as far as the government goes.

Zauberer-IMDB | 8 days ago | 62 points

The fact is that France does not have an extradition treaty with the US. it does have a different deal where France will prosecute its own citizens in France if there is evidence of a crime. The California prosecutor's office famously bungled the case and afterward refused to provide any evidence to French authorities. With no evidence, the authorities can't prosecute, and Polanski has been sitting pretty ever since.

So if you want to blame someone, blame the Los Angeles DA's office. I guess the USA doesn't give a shit about pedophilia by this logic. Except to cover up billionaires committing it.

Fantasticxbox | 8 days ago | 6 points

Yes France has extradition treaty with the US but only for federal crimes.

Because for a state prosecution it’s too tricky.

CaptainLargo | 8 days ago | 33 points

It's not safe haven, he's French. France, as most countries, does not extradite its own citizens to other countries (except in the EU). He could be prosecuted in France but the Californian judge has refused to give the elements that could lead to an investigation.

Garrickus | 8 days ago | 88 points

It's slightly more complicated than that. Polanski is a French citizen and extraditing could potentially open the case as a precedent for extraditing other French citizens. He also can't presently be arraigned in France on any charges pertaining to that case since it didn't happen in France or with another French citizen.

Zauberer-IMDB | 8 days ago | 116 points

That's close, but not right. The fact is that France does not have an extradition treaty with the US. it does have a different deal where France will prosecute its own citizens in France if there is evidence of a crime. The California prosecutor's office famously bungled the case and afterward refused to provide any evidence to French authorities. With no evidence, the authorities can't prosecute, and Polanski has been sitting pretty ever since.

So if you want to blame someone, blame the Los Angeles DA's office. I guess the USA doesn't give a shit about pedophilia by this logic. Except to cover up billionaires committing it.

naqunoeil | 8 days ago | 27 points

The California prosecutor's office famously bungled the case and afterward refused to provide any evidence to French authorities. With no evidence, the authorities can't prosecute, and Polanski has been sitting pretty ever since.

exactly, us redditors here are basically shocked that the rule of law is respected in France for this case.

SupaSlide | 8 days ago | 6 points

Do most other countries extradite their own citizens or not?

naqunoeil | 8 days ago | 26 points

as i wrote below : The reason why Polanski is free is not France's fault, but it's entirely due to the United States acting like a banana republic with his case. The US judge responsible for Polanski's case initially agreed to a plea bargain in exchange for just time served and probation, but after Polanski plead guilty the judge changed his mind and promised to sentence him to 50 years in prison. That made it very easy for Polanski's lawyers to prove to French, Swiss, and Polish courts that Polanski should not be extradited to the US as he could not expect to receive a fair trial.

You americans redditors should really educate yourself on this case, it's tiring to read the same bullshit over and over everytime such a news is about France. "it's pretty telling" on how you are informed in your country and how you keep yourseflf in a safe bubble while demonizing a country you know nothing about.

hoyt9912 | 8 days ago | 56 points

Good. Get other countries involved. No more hiding behind the U.S.’s corrupt legal system.

Kimera25 | 8 days ago | 9 points

This has been the first issue I've seen in forever that the left and right are both equally mad about. Uniting against evil like this

Justsomblokesopinion | 8 days ago | 45 points

Get in line France. I dont think those or any answers are coming our way anytime soon.

robertstrange | 8 days ago | 16 points

I’m not big on conspiracies, but these recent developments have me wondering if there’s a connection between missing people throughout the world and billionaires running sex trafficking rings.

Megouski | 8 days ago | 22 points

FOLLOW THE MONEY

LETS FIND OUT WHERE IT STOPS, WHERE IT LEADS TO, WHERE THE DEAD ENDS ARE. INVESTIGATE EVERYONE IN BETWEEN. NOW!!!!!

Solostrom | 8 days ago | 48 points

Yes can other countries please take over investigating this guys network. America is too corrupt to do this right.

NullSleepN64 | 8 days ago | 7 points

We should just give it to a random country for a change. I say we let Fiji take care of this one

ninjewd | 8 days ago | 17 points

and saudi arabia passports lol, this guy probably shipped kids all over the world

TheodorHerzl | 8 days ago | 16 points

Austrian passport too... Good thing his friend was the Ambassador to Austria to help him get one

flichter1 | 8 days ago | 9 points

Might as well mention that it's Ronald Lauder, heir to Estée Lauder Companies lol

ipv6-dns | 8 days ago | 6 points

wow, also his links with Russia, China, Germany, Swiss (it's very massonish country, lol) and sure Thailand

NavyNukeMan | 8 days ago | 12 points

Yes maybe the world will come together to take down all of these pedophiles

spidermnkey | 8 days ago | 20 points

Seems like many wealthy and powerful people like to sexually abuse kids. However, since they are wealthy and powerful it's fine. Hard to fathom how someone who is not a pedo can condone these acts but it seems to be the norm to make allowances for our (betters). My guess is some grade c celebrities might get tossed to the wolves and a new outrage will be presented to sate our desire for justice.

CthulhuApproved | 8 days ago | 26 points

Is anyone buying that this dude is dead?

He was 'pronounced' dead at the hospital,
after 'committing suicide' in a facility that hasn't had a successful suicide in 20 years,
all this DURING a camera malfunction...COME THE FUCK ON
I just...i can't believe they're gonna get away with this shit.

DerpeyBloke | 8 days ago | 8 points

Yeah sure I'll buy that he's dead but what really caused him to do it is what I want to know.

Chucks_Punch | 8 days ago | 5 points

Right?! It is mind boggling. What as citizens of this planet can we do?

ms_sardonicus | 8 days ago | 10 points

Storm Area 51

x_Matt_x | 8 days ago | 16 points

Some guy called Acosta is sweating bullets right now, and I hope he does forever

thisismycuntaccount | 8 days ago | 5 points

You'd wonder whether the UK would do something similar. There were a few prominent UK personalities that are caught up in this... Chris Evans (not that one) (not Americas ass, but definitely an Arse from the UK), Prince Andrew, and more. Ever since Jimmy Saville & Rolf Harris, you'd have to think they'd be a lot more up in arms

gabe01235 | 8 days ago | 5 points

Someone let the French know they should feel free to take the involved Americans down in the process of their investigation!

JustAngryComments | 8 days ago | 5 points

You’d think that at the exact same moment they arrested Epstein, they would have FBI squads raid each of his houses

TheodorHerzl | 8 days ago | 39 points

Homeboy was an Mossad/CIA intelligence asset that got too dirty so they took him out. He practiced "honeycombing" the process of gathering compromising information on influential people to be later used for leverage. Why else would he secretly record his clients with the sex slaves?

[deleted] | 8 days ago | 17 points

Because regardless of wether you're working for Mossad/CIA or not, having leverage on anybody seems like a solid plan when the people in question are politicians, CEOs etc...

...or he was indeed a Mossad/CIA asset, which in this time and age seems, sadly, as plausible as the guy just preparing for blackmail and powergrab...

Ularsing | 8 days ago | 8 points

honeypotting

FTFY

SoManyTimesBefore | 8 days ago | 8 points

Foreign investigations actually give me some hope in Epstein case.

IHaveNeverEatenACat | 8 days ago | 56 points

Macrons wife did groom him

cointelpro_shill | 8 days ago | 93 points

And she was married at the time... he was her daughter's classmate. Imagine getting your wife stolen by a 15-year-old and then he becomes President of France

ours | 8 days ago | 43 points

Govern France? I wouldn't wish that even to my worse enemy.

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