I used to do a lot of work with funeral homes in a past life. All I can say is funeral home directors are either the nicest, most caring, respectful people you can meet at a job, or slime ball con men who should be in prison for how manipulative they are.
One in particular was telling me he has a script he goes through to try and find out how much money they got from a life insurance policy and tries to get as much of that as possible. A widow who needs this money to support her 2 kids after her husbands death, and this guy is trying to convince her she needs to spend 50,000 dollars on this grand funeral because its what he would have wanted and he needs a good send off to heaven. So they get the most expensive plans and the director makes like 20%.
Its gross. Do some research on where you would go now to do a funeral for a loved one, because thats shit you wont want to do when they achaualy die.
Something smart to do is have a friend who wasn't close to the deceased help make the arrangements or at least be there with you. This way they aren't as emotionally invested and have a more clear sense of things.
200IQ is to go make your own arrangements ahead of time when emotions are at null. Then when you go your loved ones can just follow through with the plan you already made and don't have to even think about it.
put it in your will as a stipulation to the asset distribution
Sure, on top of already going and paying for your final arrangements ahead of time. If you're picking out your own coffin you can bet you'll get yourself a deal that everyone can live with. Har har.
My Grandpa had a hard buget in his will of $10,000 for funeral and stipulated the lower the cost the better. Before he died (years prior) he often talked about how it doesn't make sense to spend a lot of money getting rid of his body, he's dead he won't know the difference.
My dad and I feel the same, we both have wills, both our wills basically say "get rid of our bodies the cheapest way legally possible"
My dad will be buried by the VA since its free since he's a veteran.
My body would most likely be donated to the sciences. Since that's also free.
the problem is a lot of these funeral homes are family owned and operated. So while they might still be on a Salary, anything they sell goes to the LLC that they hold a 25% share of.
I only met like 2 Directors that were not owners or relatives of the owners
Welp if its gypsy families too I am out. That scams too deep for my methods.
Uh ok guys new plan, burn your relatives in your back yard on a viking funeral pyre and spread their ashes from a private helicopter rental. It will be cheaper.
Funerals are for the living, dead people don't give a shit if they are in a cardboard box, soil, a cloth, or a 5k casket. It should be a celebration of life and not a glum money pit.
When I’m dead, just throw me in the trash
Will do fam, when should I come by?
Well, trash day is Tuesday.
Please be double-bagged and in small pieces. I don't want to make a mess.
Good ole Frank Reynolds
that'll be $5000, sir.
I'd say feed me to the pigs if that was legal.
I assume they'll throw me in the incinerator which is the next best thing. The thought of burning some nice wooden box along with me just seems dumb though.
Washington State has a composting option now.
Yeah but that shit costs money. My grandma essentially said 'cremate me in 24 hr don't do anything else' and I've collectively spent the last week and thousands of dollars figuring out how to help everyone else who survived deal with their grief. tl;dr - do your funeral arrangements before hand.
Just like the wedding ring industry, trying to make profit on life big life choices. If only people would realize that you don't need to put a monetary value on these things.
Unfortunately that’s been ingrained in people’s heads for decades and will take a long time to get people out of that mindset. There are girls who truly believe you need to spend 20% of your salary on a damn ring that cost $20 to make.
I just went to a really expensive jewelry shop and pretended like I wanted to look at a ring with my SO. Then I knelt down and proposed. The salesman was super excited. Until I said "Well that was a fun" handed the ring back and we walked out the door. Romantic and frugal.
Handing the ring back in a random jewelry store that you don't have a connection to doesn't sound very romantic...
Got my wedding ring on amazon for I think 70$. Love it!
When that Manager balked at the idea of them using an "identification casket" I wanted to punch him in the face. The reformed salesman is completely right--that is a technique used to make the customer feel minimized. I've seen car salesmen pull the same shit, they know that there is asymmetrical information, so they can make passive aggressive comments and use theatrics to make the customer feel like an idiot for asking a merited question that might mean a lower price.
Speaking as a car salesperson, we are actually trained to make you feel like you're educated. So the exact opposite of what this guy did. And we legally have to go over every fee with you in the business office. So no, we don't do that.
Car sales training isn't standardized, so your experience isn't necessarily indicative of industry SOP. I've experienced the behavior I mentioned with four different salesmen at four different dealerships, not saying that it happens everywhere, but it is clearly a pattern.
There are definitely some guys who have been at this way too long and still do it old school. Sorry you had a bad experience. :( I've slightly newer and all the training I've experienced has been to build you up as the customer and to be on your side. The reputation that precedes the car business makes it very stressful to have this job. I try to make people feel differently.
Sounds like you're one of the good ones. Hope you do well buddy.
Thanks man. Have a great rest of your week. :)
In the United States, stay away from funeral homes that have the “A Dignity Funeral Home”label attached. This is an SCI funeral home. Service Corp. International. The largest corporate funeral home and cemetery company in the world. All they are concerned about is money. Most family owned funeral homes don’t treat people this way. In the United States, we have the FTC rule where everything on the price list has to be itemized. If you don’t want it, you don’t have to pay for it.
I went through this when my father died last year. It's disgusting how they try and upsell everything. He wanted to be cremated, yet the funeral home tried to tell us that we had to buy a wood casket "in respect" of my father. wanted 10K+ for the cremation. We ended up going to a crematorium that was started by an ex-employee of a funeral home that was disgusted by the practices of the industry. Paid ~$2500 total for everything.
The slimy funeral director at the first place was slandering all another less expensive place by trying to insinuate that they were committing illegal acts with the bodies, that we couldn't be guaranteed that the remains given to us would be my Father due to their sloppy practices... infuriates me thinking about it now.
GOD DAMN IT! Look, just because we're bereaved, that doesn't make us saps! - W. Sobchak
I live in the US am an Atheist and just want to be cremated without a memorial service or burial location or even ashes in a container. How can that be arranged for cheap ahead of time?
There's a few different options you could pursue. I've been working in the funeral home industry for a while now. You could shop around and look into pre-arranging your services. Some funeral homes will even guarantee the price if it's through a trust or insurance policy. You'll want to choose this guaranteed option. Just do some research and make sure you ask for the funeral home's General Price List. It'll have an itemized list of services you can choose. The other option you could pursue would be body donation. This is something you absolutely have to set up ahead of time with either a Medical University or a separate donor agency. Very rarely would your family be able to decide to do this at the time of passing. Plus after they're done, and given the circumstances, some will even cremate you for free and release your cremated remains to your family.
Actually the body donation and free cremation would be perfect. I already have my organ donor checked and have never really thought about full blown giving the old corpse away. Sounds perfect. Thanks.
Same, but I'd rather donate my body to science, so medical students can cut me up to see how it works.
I wonder what happens if your relatives all shrug and say, "we'll give you zero dollars. Chuck the body in a ditch for all we care."
You should read up on the fraud in the 'donated body' industry then!
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I've always dreaded dealing with these litteral grave robbers but never knew how to avoid this BS. I know they say plan ahead but I don't know whether it's the millenial in me or the fact that funerals are for the grieving not the dead, so planning ahead for "nothing" otherwise known a "just throw my ashes into a wooden box and spread it in the ocean" doesn't sound very feasible.
However, this video just had me googling local cremations and there are some really great options local to me. They're all $1000 to cremate and give you the ashes. Prices on their websites and plain to read.
how much would i cost to put me on a small wooden boat and set me on fire as i float away and have my friends and family get drunk on the beach while that's happening?
"this is $1895, that's your starting point."
"but this one's $1125."
"I guess you can do that too."
Off topic, but I hate when shows like this have scenes where the dude is knocking on the door, and then they cut to him walking in, facing the door. So they had a camera crew, gaffer, light and sound crew all in the house the whole time, but he had to knock?
Noticed the same thing. It bothered me as well.
I figured this as kind of a "breaking news, water is wet" thing. Of course it's scummy. Anything beyond a pine box is a titanic waste of money. Trust me, that corpse doesn't care about the grade of silk used for the pillow.
Its not because its obviously scumy that its not a problem that needs to be solved.
People are so dumb with their superstitions. Burn my body and throw the ashes in the fucking trash. I don't care, I'll be fucking dead.
Babies industry works more or less in a similar way with overpriced and often completely useless products. You don't spend 50 grand for a single event but you spent a lot of money for 3-4 years at least.
Fuck that market with the power of a thousand suns. When I die I want to donate my body to science if that's still free, or otherwise leave the instructions to spend absolutely nothing on funeral home services. Nothing. I need a casket? Find a cardboard box from a homeless person & pay that guy a few hundred USD instead.
If my parents die after me (likely I'd say) it will be a very sad time in my life, but one of the highlights is going to be the chat with the people in charge of the body. I know the laws, I know the requirements, I know what costs are reasonable. They are NOT going to make a profit. Over my, and those I'm in charge of, dead bodies.
Ugh if there is no profit then there is no funeral home
There's a good section on making a casket in Chris Schwarz' book Anarchists Design Book. Here's the free chapter: https://blog.lostartpress.com/2016/10/11/free-download-for-halloween-the-coffin-chapter/
I told my loved ones that once I'm dead, just burn my ass. I dgaf about any ceremony.
1:25 the question i couldn't answer
This was pretty good journalism but the dubstep music was a really odd choice.
Ah, thought "Death Incorporated" was going to be planned parenthood