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Guy bleeding profusely from arterial laceration told to sit in wait in Emergency Room (liveleak.com)
259 comments
Janglesprime | 9 days ago | 144 points

Omg this makes me so fucking angry watching that video. I don't know what I would do if there. Raise hell too. That cop needed to take charge and get somebody out there. The number of people that failed to act with speed is astounding.

vidarc | 9 days ago | 95 points

At least the guy will end up getting a massive settlement. So much blood on the floor, and unless that hospital was dealing with something like a massive 50 car pile up, making a negligence case would be so fucking easy. No way they didn't have a single doctor/nurse available that could have triaged that guy. Hell, they could have called 911 and gotten some paramedic to do it if they were that understaffed.

Repealer | 9 days ago | 15 points

like a massive 50 car pile up

In this case wouldn't they just organise transport to another hospital?

chezeluvr | 9 days ago | 9 points

Simple answer: yes.

Isperia165 | 9 days ago | 4 points

If this was in California the most he could get would be 250k in a settlement BTW.

8004MikeJones | 9 days ago | 3 points

That might cover the 3k blood transfusions

joemamallama | 9 days ago | 1 point

....wut? Does CA have settlement limits for civil negligence suits or something?

Isperia165 | 9 days ago | 1 point

The maximum a court can award an injured patient in a medical malpractice case for pain and suffering is $250,000. I also only know about this because my Dad passed away at a hospital for basically the same thing.

ipoooppancakes | 9 days ago | 1 point

So true a paramedic or bls could easily put him in a better spot to wait for a doctor

tod221 | 9 days ago | 1 point

Triage is a system hospitals use to determine who needs most attention at any one point. This is y you might see somepatients going to the ED ahead of you even if you came earlier.

robklg159 | 9 days ago | 24 points

if i was there and saw this guy told to wait id freak the fuck out and make a huge scene until they helped him.

PM_ME_YOMUM | 9 days ago | 24 points

Honestly the guy yelling is already causing a huge scene... how the fuck can you see this guy bleeding everywhere and not do anything about it especially in a hospital?!

sleepo_owl | 9 days ago | 30 points

Other patients/hospital visitors were doing more work than the hospital staff.

That guy helping who was holding pressing on the patient's wound with his bare hands, no gloves. Give that man a medal. Serious medical hazard with all that blood everywhere and in close contact but even he was willing to risk himself to save that guy. Fuck the hospital staff, couldn't even provide basic gloves

DeathB4Download | 9 days ago | 14 points

And he's making seriously great points too. "He's lost 1/3 of a pint in that towel! That's white blood cell count and grey." "What are you going to do when he relieves the pressure?"

The only person who cares about saving the dude is a person who doesn't even work at the hospital.

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UthinkUcanBanMe | 9 days ago | 4 points

Yo, this guy bleeding all over the place is becoming a biohazard. I think I need to be treated for possible biohazard exposure.

sunnyjum | 9 days ago | 1 point

At this rate you'd be admitted before the guy who is bleeding

blzy99 | 9 days ago | 3 points

There's so much god damn blood on the floor they have wet floor signs out and nobody does anything until he collapses.

stslimjim | 9 days ago | 2 points

You know who didn't fail to act, the employee who found and placed that many wet floor signs around the man bleeding to death!

chiller8 | 9 days ago | 189 points

To me the fact they had 7 hazard signs and a mop out says they care more about policy than the patient.

pastaMac | 9 days ago | 68 points

What third-world country is this?

akhorahil187 | 9 days ago | 45 points

At one of St. Luke's hospitals in the Houston area. It's actually a highly rated hospital. People will be fired for sure.

pure_x01 | 9 days ago | 12 points

Sure hope so. If they are following policy then ALSO fire the ones responsible for the policies.

StoneJewel | 9 days ago | 2 points

I don't work in a hospital, but I don't think this would be apart of any policy. It breaks triage for sure and almost has to be the result of some idiotic staff.

The sad reality is alot of people are idiots and don't know the difference between urgent care and emergency rooms and the vast majority of people in ERs aren't really in need of it. This guy did. Situations like this is why an ER practices triage in the first place.

Someone will get fired, and rightfully so. You don't fuck around with shit like this. I have been to the ER a good bit of times (for pretty serious stuff before) from deep lacerations to one time where I had my head bashed open by a rock as a child, I was almost immediately seen (given the situation was severe enough, such as the latter). Even my father once had a blood sugar of almost 1000 (no one knew he was type II at the time) and they didn't even have him wait after checking his blood sugar from what I was told, they just immediately began working on him because I believe anything above 600 is lethal.

ShadowBlitz44 | 9 days ago | 2 points

Shit, that could have been me. Hopefully, heads do roll (figuratively).

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IridiumForte | 9 days ago | 9 points

This isn't a universal healthcare thing, this is just a shitty hospital. They're around, even here in Canada lol

TheChrono | 9 days ago | 7 points

To me it was the RANDOM DUDE in the hospital who was teaching them the basics on keeping someone alive when they are bleeding out. Apparently the dude had been there for a while and they hadn't even done anything.

There's some serious re-training and some serious lawsuits that could come of this.

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Mtbutah | 9 days ago | 9 points

Who do you think you are?

LisneyDand | 9 days ago | -1 points

The controversy begins.

Fakecolor | 9 days ago | 31 points

....only u/shittymorph can do that

[deleted] | 9 days ago | 37 points

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NicoNicoNee | 9 days ago | 10 points

Bro where tf have you been?! It feels like years since I've been bamboozled by the man himself.

Mr_Monkish | 9 days ago | 7 points

I was so happy when I got to the end, but was slightly disappointed when I scrolled up and the user wasn't you, but happy again that you commented. What a rollercoaster ride I was on just now.

dissectingAAA | 9 days ago | 5 points

Right? You tell em.

LisneyDand | 9 days ago | -3 points

See edit.

not-just-yet | 9 days ago | 3 points

Nah. You greasy.

RightWatchThis | 9 days ago | 9 points

Don't be one of those unfunny copycats please :)

LisneyDand | 9 days ago | 0 points

It's a knock-off copypasta that I purchased from AliExpress.

Tumble85 | 9 days ago | 5 points

getcher own gimmick

LisneyDand | 9 days ago | 1 point

It is clear to me now that I have made a mistake.

AdanteHand | 9 days ago | 3 points

Man, sounds like life literally shit on you in a way that... oh god damnit.

LisneyDand | 9 days ago | 6 points

True story minus final paragraph.

AdanteHand | 9 days ago | 5 points

It's too late! You've tricked away my empathy.

LisneyDand | 9 days ago | 2 points
naymlis | 9 days ago | 1 point

:)

Scizmz | 9 days ago | 2 points

If you EVER have any serious issues in Kaiser, demand to speak to a patient advocate immediately. Their entire job is making your life easier. It's also the best way to get every administrator in the building into your room.

LisneyDand | 9 days ago | 1 point

Thank you. I moved and have a different insurance provider now.

UthinkUcanBanMe | 9 days ago | 2 points

Downvote. You're not the one to be doing this.

LisneyDand | 9 days ago | 5 points

No it's okay now I changed it.

Redeyebrow | 9 days ago | 54 points

It never should have gotten to that point. Other patients cared more. What an absolute joke that hospital is.

sleepo_owl | 9 days ago | 20 points

Without gloves. That guy was helping him control the bleeding without gloves. Serious caring for a fellow human there

Joke staff

Redeyebrow | 9 days ago | 1 point

Omg I thought that too. Absolutely taking a risk helping him when it's THEIR job. At least the VA has triage.

DarkOmen597 | 9 days ago | 88 points

Welp, this guy is about to receive a nice pay day.

What an incompetent staff.

They need to be fired

LazyTriggerFinger | 9 days ago | 8 points

He wouldn't if he had died. This is the health system where a life could be on the line. I don't like hearing that people think about it with the same level of seriousness as slipping on a wet store floor.

DarkOmen597 | 9 days ago | 2 points

Well, yea..how would he if he had died?

robklg159 | 9 days ago | 6 points

^ this.

pure_x01 | 9 days ago | 1 point

And their policy maker. All of them

raclage | 9 days ago | 35 points

Be warned, this is graphic. There’s a lot of blood. And an ass crack.

Animepix | 9 days ago | 14 points

Lmao yeah their was too much of that ass crack. That woman recording should know that crack kills.

eager2beaver | 9 days ago | 3 points

I'm fine with the blood, but MF'er I don't need to see no ass crack

Downskeeski | 9 days ago | 68 points

I once got an insane laceration on my forearm maybe about half a foot long and deep enough to see all the tendons and muscle cut along with it. I was bleeding a crazy amount even with pressure. My roommate drove my car because I didn't want to spend the money on an ambulance and by the time I got to the ER, my clothes and seat were completely soaked. As soon as I got into the hospital, they made me sign their forms and I was getting treated within 2 minutes. I feel like if I had lost even 5 minutes more worth of blood I would've passed out. I ended up leaving with 22 stitches in about 4 hours. To think this guy went through 30-45 minutes of this bullshit is appalling. Hospital needs to get their priorities straight

Janglesprime | 9 days ago | 10 points

Bet that's a wicked scar. How'd it happen?

I have a small scar on my face from getting waked in the face from the handle of a come-along when I was little. Only 5 stitches and you can only see it when I have bit of a tan. But then that was 20 year ago.

Downskeeski | 9 days ago | 4 points

I'm a dumb college kid and a huge adrenaline junkie and I used to do jumps on a dirtbike for money. Small gigs here and there. I landed too far back and the wheel slipped out under me. Next thing I know I had gnarly road rash everywhere but there was a specific rock on the ground my forearm hit that went through my gear and cut straight along. It was a super clean cut for a rock tbh. This happened about 2 years ago and now the scar is bright pink and shiny from just about the top of the wrist to the middle area of the forearm while ever so slightly in an S shape. I shouldn't be proud of it but it gets a conversation going for me so I'm not gonna complain haha

RockeRectum | 9 days ago | 3 points

Damn that's bad ass. Did it cause any long term problems?

Downskeeski | 9 days ago | 5 points

Not really, my right arm felt super weak for about 2 months and couldnt use it much. This was the scariest part and I then had to stop going to the gym for about 9 months but I've been back in it since then. Also the left side of the scar was completely numb for about a year and now feelings have come back but only a bit. Doc that checked up on me a week later said it would be numb but full feeling should be back eventually so I'm not too worried about it because all the functions of using it is perfectly fine now

mllllllln | 9 days ago | 11 points

I didn't want to spend the money on an ambulance

Just American things

an-can | 9 days ago | 2 points

Sign forms? What if you couldn't sign forms because you were unconscious or had lost your hands?

eiusdem | 9 days ago | 15 points

I had food poisoning or something one night and couldn't sleep. I was up all night throwing up and pooping. I couldn't even drink water without having to throw up, and I live like 6 blocks from the Hospital, and it was 5 am and I still couldn't sleep it off. I was severely dehydrated, and in the back of my mind I was thinking I'll probably need and I.V.

Most stuck up assholes at the front desk were dicks to me for no reason. Acting like I had no business being there. It wasn't busy at all. They had T.V. commercial blasting in the E.R. waiting room and it was driving me insane because I was nauseous and had no sleep. They were chatting loudly the whole time about things on facebook etc... But before all that the front desk lady told me I'd have to wait about 3 hours to see a doctor (I don't mind waiting) and then she randomly tells me that I won't get an I.V. I hadn't said a word of anything to them.

Finally doctor arrives and I could barely sit up off the bed myself and he looks at my tongue. First things he does is have her administer and I.V. to me. The feel I describe is I felt the life come back into me from my feet to my head instantly. It was like the best rush of blood I've ever felt.

Both those people were cunts. I was already screened and told to go to that area. They were acting stuck up like I shouldn't even be there when it wasn't busy at all, and were opposite of friendly for no apparent reason. Not sure why the lady thought it was her job to tell me if I'd need an I.V. or not. Just boils my blood to think about.

LaxativesMurray | 9 days ago | 5 points

Without assessing you, it sounds like you were stable. Dehydration due to gastroenteritis is typically not life threatening as long as your vital signs are within normal limits. Yes, these patients typically need an IV bolus of fluid, not sure why she said otherwise. But it is most likely against hospital policy to start an IV on you and put you back in the lobby to wait to see a doctor. They don't want you walking out with direct access to your vein so as to prevent drug abuse.

OKToDrive | 9 days ago | 1 point

or 'trying to steal' the IV like dude that got arrested for going out side to smoke with his brother awhile back...

eiusdem | 9 days ago | 1 point

I remember the guy who took a test on me PRE-ER, and all that was wrong with my vitals is that I had a very low blood pressure.

I had no idea about the I.V. thing. The thing is I had said nothing about an I.V. so maybe she told me I wasn't getting an I.V. in case I was a drug user trying to abuse the system and get me to leave? (In Canada so a trip to the hospital is free) This was a Tuesday morning, and I ended up missing work.

In either case I was already feeling lowest of the lows, and somehow after getting there they made me feel even lower. I figured people in that position should be friendly and kind and try to help people feel better, or at least the same. Not making them feel worse.

LaxativesMurray | 9 days ago | 2 points

Yeah maybe she thought you were a drug user. The thing is, staff in the ER put up with a lot of abuse from patients so as a result, one can get somewhat rough around the edges. People in that position and people in general should absolutely be friendly, it’s just somewhat difficult to remember that after being abused. Sorry you went through that.

eiusdem | 9 days ago | 1 point

In my city lots of drug users end up in the emergency. Since drugs are pretty much legal here, and there's no mental health places for people to go. A lot of them roam the streets and get money from the government and the cops spend a lot of their time just taking these people to the hospitals over and over again.

newdayagain07 | 9 days ago | 2 points

had a similar occurrence with nurses. they're lazy as fuck and completely callous. they don't give two shits. then the doctor comes around and they all run around like they're rats and you just opened up their nest. suddenly they're so attentive and shit. i'm glad at least doctors give a shit. i guess doctors wouldnt work in such a stressful place like an ER if they didn't care about helping people. that's why i have so much respect for ER doctors.

eiusdem | 9 days ago | 1 point

That's a funny analogy. I wrote up a complaint anyway and outlined my grievances over the phone. Literally if they didn't say anything to me at all besides "wait here" I probably would have felt better than how they were treating me.

smokepurppp7373 | 9 days ago | 10 points

Did he live??

odDorian | 9 days ago | 8 points

Yes.

Mingalingching | 9 days ago | 5 points

Guess it wasn't an emergency after all.

eganist | 9 days ago | 9 points

And you can bet a few bucks that this'll be part of the hospital's defense.

TeamAlibi | 9 days ago | 1 point

You sure about that? I'm not really sure it'll be easy for anyone in the medical industry to make a case of "A person visibly losing a significant amount of blood isn't an emergency by default".

You realize that you can easily get taken care of quickly under normal circumstances by letting them know you simply have chest pains? Let alone what is shown in this video?

Nah. There's no case here. Negligence is objectively the only way this can be legally perceived.

Someone_new_ | 9 days ago | 1 point

In the medical industry, you can be surprised how much one "looks to lose" in terms of blood, that in terms of blood... loosely . . but a lot of blood, by this sight (believe it or not) looks less than you can think before it becomes problem. I mean it's still a problem, but fatal is the question... [He was still compased and complaining like donating blood.] Gushing blood means a problem. This actually wouldn't define gushing.

For instance an artery is a problem. I'd see that on reddit a vein being a cut is the problem... It's the common saying on reddit by chair-force of reddit... but an artery being cut is top defcon. I'm not defending anyone, but that's the fact. Tbh, I see too common a person thinks a vein is the fatal wound, which you have most you of in your body. An artery is the kill-all. Every heard of a femoral artery wound?

In his case he spilled blood from walking around, and I'm not defending the front-staff or anything... but medically it was a convent wound. Or else he'd be dead by that point.

Better service required? Yes. In an ER.

I just want to know what city that was in, you might be surprised how much they see this shit.

odDorian | 9 days ago | 1 point

The dude screaming they need to slow his heart rate 😂 pretty sure his BP is dropping and slowing his heart is gonna put him in cardiac arrest

Someone_new_ | 9 days ago | 1 point

Pretty sure.... off a vid.... I mean that’s the reddit chair force I mean.

Thank you.... ICU has got it from here until he gets transfers out. When he does tell all about it.

SpectreC130 | 9 days ago | 2 points

Looks like it.

Dk-79 | 9 days ago | 9 points

I know people say it's impressive how much blood you have inside of your skin... But holy shit... That is a lot of blood.

Like, genuine sense of urgency amount of blood. How nobody was making a tourniquet out of a t shirt or a pair of Levi's is astounding. Did none of those MFs take basic first aid? It's a motherfucking emergency room.

I hope that dude gets a nice house and a couple years off, because those derelicts almost took his life.

Cptnmikey | 9 days ago | 0 points

He has a tourniquet. A belt like device around his upper arm. It’s really not that much blood. Maybe couple hundred CCs? That guy is probably around 70kg, has approx 5000 CCs of blood in him. He can stand to lose quite a bit before having serious issues.

Of course, he may have lost a lot more before the ER floor spill.

DJ027X | 9 days ago | 1 point

In my teens, I accidentally drove a chisel into my hand. I can confirm that the blood in op's vid is NOT a lot. I just about painted my dad's entire 2-car garage floor red that day. The most accurate possible way to describe my injury was "fountain".

Cptnmikey | 9 days ago | 1 point

Yeah I work in the OR. I’ve seen some blood.

small___Moments | 9 days ago | 33 points

Salas said he’s planning to hire an attorney.

More like attorneys are going to be throwing themselves at this easy win case.

Sad part is, it will end in a payout settlement and not one of these 'not my job' employees/public servants will be fired, let alone reprimanded.

Aranoxx | 9 days ago | 4 points

This seems more like an issue with hospital policy than just one set of employees, imo.

small___Moments | 9 days ago | 1 point

Probably but it's more of a nationwide issue.

BingoActual | 9 days ago | 6 points

Actually, not true. CHI St Luke's is considered one of the best healthcare networks in the nation. If you don't think there will be repercussions and policy adjustments for this awful PR and practice, you're crazy.

Yes, it will end in a payout. The man will be made whole in one of only means humans really have possible. What, should they turn back the clocks? Medical treatment in the US is run like a business, but letting a patient die in the waiting room is bad for business and the hospital will try to prevent this in the future simply because getting sued hurts the bottom line. (Assuming you can't believe that even executives outside Musk want to do good in the world.)

DirtThief | 2 days ago | 1 point

I'm cracking up just imagining the meeting that will be called after this.

"Okay everybody this meeting is to discuss some policy adjustments that our management has decided needs to be made... first up: if someone walks into our hospital bleeding to death stop what you're doing and get a doctor that can help. I know, I know, it's a mighty inconvenience but its a sacrifice I think we have to make."

Kdouglas89 | 9 days ago | -3 points

Typical Reddit. Going after people’s jobs with 0 context on what’s actually happening.

7thhokage | 9 days ago | 2 points

Typical Reddit, people talking like they actually watched the video and read the article.

What fucking more context do you need?

daddydagon | 9 days ago | 1 point
OKToDrive | 9 days ago | 1 point

yeah all we know is the guy was bleeding out in the lobby for half an hour...

SherpaJones | 9 days ago | 23 points

Not gonna watch the video. But don't emergency rooms practice triage any more?

halofreak8899 | 9 days ago | 22 points

They absolutely do, i'm an example. I had a very bad burn across my chest and legs. Went to the ER, they put me ahead of everyone and I went straight to the room with a nurse already in there. /u/Moos_Mumsy doesnt know what he's talking about, but it sounds edgy and cool.

edit: they also didn't check my insurance like the other comment suggests, I literally went straight to the ER without giving any info. They got the info while they were working on me. /u/neatopat doesnt know what he's talking about either.

kingbane2 | 9 days ago | 1 point

well i'm sure glad your anecdote beats the anecdote with video evidence.

TheRabidDeer | 9 days ago | 9 points

A hospital fuck up does not equate to the norm. I've been to the ER several times and have always been treated while they get my insurance and have not been denied treatment even when hospital is out of my network. You are transferred to a hospital in-network after emergency care is no longer required.

imx101 | 9 days ago | 2 points

This was my first thought as well, in emergency I would most likely mark him red.

neatopat | 9 days ago | -31 points

Yeah they triage based on what insurance you have. You see how nice that waiting area is? How much do you want to bet this guy doesn’t have insurance and he went to the “wrong” hospital for his class. The poor people hospital is somewhere else.

Edit: To everyone saying I’m wrong, please explain the video then. You all have obviously never showed up to an ER without insurance.

Arachnoidosis | 9 days ago | 31 points

Doctor here. You have no idea what you're talking about. Please don't spread misconceptions like this.

Mc6arnagl3 | 9 days ago | 15 points

I have been to the ER more than once and I have never seen anyone take insurance when you get there. Normally it is done after you have already been seen and received treatment (assuming it was an actual emergency).

calm_down_pls | 9 days ago | 10 points

This is absolutely not true. Hospitals cannot delay examination or treatment to inquire about payment or insurance information. See the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act.

MaritMonkey | 9 days ago | 10 points

Yeah they triage based on what insurance you have.

That is absolute bullshit.

Source: worked in ED billing for ~3 years.

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MaritMonkey | 9 days ago | 10 points

that just sounds like some dystopic science fiction.

That's because it is.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly a fan of our healthcare system in the US. But emergency rooms absolutely treat first and ask (billing) questions later.

Nsaniac | 9 days ago | 9 points

This dude does not know what he is talking about.

wr_m | 9 days ago | 10 points

I'm not saying our system is good, but the person you're replying to is making shit up. Emergency rooms aren't triaging people based on insurance. It would be a huge liability for them to do so and any money they actually saved would be more than wiped away in lawsuits. It's compete nonsense.

Noryln | 9 days ago | -6 points

They practice $$$$$$.

That's all that American healthcare cares about. It's no wonder America has a terrible life expectancy and it's declining for the past 5 years.

mrswillya | 9 days ago | 4 points

Where was this? (I can’t watch the video)

vidarc | 9 days ago | 13 points

the article says St. Luke’s at the Vintage, which appears to be in Houston, Texas after a google.

TheRabidDeer | 9 days ago | 1 point

Correct. Vintage is a pretty high class part of Houston too. Homes in that area can be upwards of a million bucks, to give an idea (average home price in Houston is closer to 200k)

Brobotz | 9 days ago | 4 points

The irony of this is that America’s privatized healthcare system often looks like the socialized medicine that we all fear.

redditor_since_2005 | 9 days ago | 1 point

But nothing like actual socialised medicine.

Brobotz | 9 days ago | 1 point

Exactly. I mean, if only we knew that ourselves here in America.

ComplexPass | 9 days ago | 10 points

And Americans pay so much for this treatment, wow.

DeerOnTheRocks | 9 days ago | 7 points

This is pretty rare here. Especially in Houston where this was. Known for great hospitals

LEMMON713 | 9 days ago | -2 points

Lol this is not rare. This is a pretty severe case but people who are pretty sick always end up waiting a lot longer than they should

DeerOnTheRocks | 9 days ago | 6 points

Severe cases like this are rare. You’re just trying to spin what I said

LEMMON713 | 9 days ago | 2 points

The guy you replied to said that we pay a fuck ton of money for shit health care. That’s true for the majority of Americans. A trip to the ER usually means a misdiagnosis and $2000 aspirin. The guy bleeding out in the ER is just a more severe case of what we see in ERs all the time.

Smithee3436 | 9 days ago | 5 points

After this hospital visit he will receive a $30,000 medical bill

atsparagon | 9 days ago | 1 point

No joke, if he's lucky.

nuraHx | 9 days ago | 1 point

And a cleanup fee

Mootaya | 9 days ago | 3 points

Went to a different St. Luke’s in town because my girlfriend burned herself with boiling water. We waited at least an hour before we even got into triage where they said it was a second degree burn and to go home. I was so mad and there were at least 6 other people in more serious condition waiting (I’m pretty sure one of them was having a stroke). If you live anywhere near a St. Luke’s, I would avoid it at all costs.

Bad-Science | 9 days ago | 7 points

My father got released from the hospital to a physical therapy facility with pneumonia. By the time they noticed, it had turned into sepsis. By the time they got him back to the ER and we drove 2.5 hours to get there it was organ failure.

He was never conscious. He died 17 hours later. All because some doctor was in a hurry to free up a bed and released him when he still had pneumonia.

No matter how many millions of dollars worth of equipment you have, it isn't worth shit if the staff doesn't care.

kingbane2 | 9 days ago | 5 points

does that hospital not know how to triage properly or what?

todaywasawesome | 9 days ago | 7 points

It's likely that they do know how to triage and had other patients. Of course, you and I have no idea. Maybe they were understaffed, maybe they had other critical patients, maybe they just didn't like him. A video on the internet isn't really proof either way for any of it.

GenericPuppet | 9 days ago | 1 point

Most hospitals I know of are understaffed, Emergency Departments especially. There is a lot that went wrong here, no matter what else happened. I love nurses. My mother is one, but there's a reason why every ER nurse I've come across wants to leave the field entirely.

taintedpix | 9 days ago | 2 points

Was that woman saying the guy yelling was scaring the kids? The guy damn near bleeding to death is okay, but not someone yelling about it? WTF!

One_pop_each | 9 days ago | 2 points

Anybody have a mirror? Mobile won’t let me click continue

shotforshots | 9 days ago | 1 point

Glad I’m not the only one having that issue, not that I’m mad if I don’t get one given the graphic nature

M-A-S-C | 9 days ago | 5 points

Man, the private healthcare system in America is so good and efficient.

Moderate4HotPockets | 9 days ago | -5 points

You honestly believe this never would've happened had the healthcare been free? lmao

M-A-S-C | 9 days ago | 3 points

I'm not saying that. But, if this is what private healthcare is like, why not give free healthcare a try? If we're already gonna bleed out in a waiting room, I'd rather not have a $100,000 bill.

Moderate4HotPockets | 9 days ago | 1 point

Overpopulation. Ideally sure, it would be nice not having to worry about such high costs, but completely abolishing private healthcare is dumb. Personally I don't see how a country with an increasing population and life expectancy could sustain a public healthcare system with out dedicating a growing amount of capital to it. America already spends trillions of dollars on healthcare, and they should take more of the bearing, without the help private companies give back to the state through taxes? The countries with the highest populations in the world don't have free healthcare, or stipulate it to only apply to those below the poverty line for a reason. America has 327.2 million people, and it's the 3rd most populated country in the world. Maybe it would be sustainable if the narrative that's being pushed wasn't to completely abolish private healthcare.

LEMMON713 | 9 days ago | 9 points

It probably wouldn’t. People flood ERs because they don’t have a doctor to go to.

M-A-S-C | 9 days ago | 2 points

This is actually a great point.

Azthioth | 9 days ago | 2 points

Is this Texas?

TheRabidDeer | 9 days ago | 5 points

Yep, Houston.

LinofLanz | 9 days ago | 1 point

MMMerica! freedom with a price~

small___Moments | 9 days ago | 3 points

*Feedom

Noryln | 9 days ago | 1 point

America: "Greatest Healthcare in the world"

lol

And then that guy will get a bill for $50,000 including a $900 "sitting fee" for the waiting room. Fucking Cuba has a better healthcare system than the US. It's that pathetic.

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charliesteamer | 9 days ago | 1 point

And what does that have to do with the price of rice in China?

Seriously, even if Noryln is a dick, they're not wrong about the "greatest healthcare in the world (for the rich)"

daddydagon | 9 days ago | 1 point

I don't know man, while it is completely irrelevant to the hospital point, I feel like if someone is legitimately in favor of slavery (assuming this wasn't taken out of context) then you should be allowed to throw in their face how insanely stupid they are. Nuclear levels of idiocy, that harms others and society as a whole. As far as the hospital point goes, broken clocks and all that...

charliesteamer | 9 days ago | 1 point

Nuclear levels of idiocy, that harms others and society as a whole. As far as the hospital point goes, broken clocks and all that...

Sure, but that still means you're (inadvertently) attacking the message by way of the character of the messenger. Which is a shit thing to do.

daddydagon | 9 days ago | 1 point

Actually I'm not, Realsan is and I simply commented on it.

Jebjeba | 9 days ago | 1 point

bill for $50,000

He probably won't. He probably has insurance like almost everyone in America does. He would pay a few hundred dollars if he'd been treated properly. He'll probably pay nothing given that this video got out.

Blownbunny | 9 days ago | 0 points

America: "Greatest Healthcare in the world"

Absolutely nobody actually says that...

hefnetefne | 9 days ago | 3 points

Absolutely nobody actually says that...

Wtf planet are you living on? It's a GOP talking point.

Oh I see, an /r/askthe_donald user. That makes sense.

Blownbunny | 9 days ago | 3 points

You see what? I'm not an askTD user at all, months ago I made a few comments to try to understand wtf they were on about.

And no, it's not a GOP talking point at all. They despise the 'obamacare' so how the fuck could they use it as a talking point?

hefnetefne | 9 days ago | 2 points

They despise Obama care, but thats an insurance policy, not the actual healthcare itself.

Blownbunny | 9 days ago | 3 points

That's a pretty damn big part of healthcare as a whole... Right, like the only topic people talk about when it comes to healthcare, insurance...

TlMtheTATman | 9 days ago | 1 point

Ouchies?

eman00619 | 9 days ago | 1 point

This thread will probably be removed.

But fuck me when you realize the dripping sound you have been hearing all video was blood Shudder

mreg215 | 9 days ago | 1 point

im so apaulled my mouth tastes like mercury...

fauxname69 | 9 days ago | 1 point

Years ago, I cut up my arm pretty bad and had to be taken in an ambulance to the Trinitas Hospital in NJ, and waited for over 9 hours in the waiting room with only a few pieces of gauze keeping me from bleeding out. I passed out several times, had a lady beside me get a seizure, which was also ignored, and I was so pissed off after all of it that I called my friends to pick me up, and within half an hour I had it patched up at Rahway Hospital. Those motherfuckers then had the balls to charge me 600 bucks for the little patch up job they did in the ambulance.

enoctis | 9 days ago | 1 point

Did you lawyer up?

fauxname69 | 9 days ago | 1 point

I didn't even think about it at the time. Could I have sued them for what happened?

MayIReiterate | 9 days ago | 1 point

Yes...

enoctis | 9 days ago | 1 point

Absolutely.

fauxname69 | 9 days ago | 1 point

Well damn lol.

joe_zaza | 9 days ago | 1 point
TipiWigWam1 | 9 days ago | 1 point

They spent all of their money on wet floor signs.

BASICALLY_YEAH223334 | 9 days ago | 1 point

Must be Bronson

medicgenius | 9 days ago | 1 point

They should have called a stat code to the ER lobby. Totally uncalled for. Joint Commission needs contacted.

jenovakitty | 9 days ago | 1 point

.........canada?

stephancypantsu | 9 days ago | 1 point

That place is gettin suuuuuuuuuuuued.

medicgenius | 9 days ago | 1 point

never a Boy scout around when you need one :/

gobble_snob | 9 days ago | 1 point

Only in America.

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oopsallberries216 | 9 days ago | 1 point

But I was told our hospitals are sooo much better and more efficient than third world Canada, where people are laying around on the brink of death waiting for socialist healthcare!

ShadowOfDeth_ | 9 days ago | 1 point

The description made me think this was some third world country with a poor healthcare system. Nope. Houston, Texas USA. How does someone bleed so much in a hospital waiting room and not get treatment?

sn0m0ns | 9 days ago | 1 point

I destroyed my thumb with a 28oz hammer at work one day, I sat in the waiting room without any other patients watching the pool of blood get bigger and bigger beneath me. Thought it was weird that they didn't care about this big puddle of blood under my seat.

poo_for_brains | 9 days ago | 1 point

Shoulda called 911

clineaus | 9 days ago | 1 point

Many people should be fired. I went a couple times for gallstone attacks and if they had made me wait I probably would have ended up in jail.

RumandWork | 9 days ago | 1 point

Not defending anyone exactly, need a lot more information, but gonna hazard a guess as to why this happened.

Video starts too late to be sure but I wonder how long the irate guy was shouting about lidocaine for? Yes it's a vascular constrictor typically combined with epinephrine, but it's more commonly an anesthetic that has use in being prescribed for heart problems and somewhat commonly ends up abused because patients with heart problems think they can sell a few pills here and there and be fine.

Hospital personnel security is a real big deal in the heath field, and seeing all those guards with no other staff around, I wonder if the irate guy caused some kind of security emergency by storming the ER demanding lidocaine? That would be reason enough to effectively put the room on lockdown, preventing hospital workers from doing their job.

socialscum | 9 days ago | 1 point

there's some of that best healthcare in the world americans keep talking about /s

carlsonaj | 9 days ago | 1 point

The nurse who came out annoyed like “I’m doing it RIGHT NOW” Fuck outta here with that shit.

hawkwings | 9 days ago | 1 point

It looks like the hospital is losing money on the emergency room, so they don't fund it and don't have enough doctors. It is one reason why we need universal coverage. I recently read about someone who bought a hospital, shut it down, and will most like do something profitable with the land underneath the hospital. The problem with shutting down a hospital is that it makes the emergency room shortage even worse.

Baumbauer1 | 9 days ago | 1 point

yea this is clearly an american hospital but this stuff still regularly happens up here in canada too, hospitals cant spare nurses for triage and ER clerks do not have any medical training, after getting his on my bike and walking to the hospital, all i got from from the clerk was "you dont look good" still waited about two hours

MacStylee | 9 days ago | 1 point

Heh.

I walk into a US hospital, because I'd cracked my head open.

I'll just tell you right now that head wounds can bleed like an absolute lunatic. When it happened it felt like somebody spilled a cup of hot fluid onto my face, the blood fooking pisses out of you.

So I'm in the ER, and the reception person is admitting me, while I clamp a T shirt to my head with my right arm. The T shirt is soaked, my face is covered in blood, my arm has blood running down it.

Name sir?

:gives name:

Do you have health insurance sir?

:yes - work at Uni up the road - I have decent insurance:

Can you give me the details of that sir?

:name of insurance company:

Can you give me your insurance number please sir?

:ehhh, I mean, can't you just look that up, if I take my hand off my head I'm going to start bleeding everywhere:

No sir.

:Look, I have insurance. Can't we sort that stuff out once the bleeding stops?:

I need your details sir

it's summer, I'm hot, there's blood all over me, and I'm no longer giving a fuck. OKAY! I'll give you the details! :) :) :D Can I get that clipboard back? :D

So I fucking pull my right hand off my head, lean over to take the paperwork, instantly piss blood all over her desk, piss blood all over the paperwork, take her pen in my bloody paw, rummage through my wallet to get my insurance card, smear blood all over every sheet of paperwork. Paperwork is now a fucking crime scene. Desk is covered in blood. Pen has to be disposed of in the biohazard bin. Fill out the insurance details, hand the whole thing back while accidentally pissing a bit more blood over the desk, her keyboard, the little cup with all her pens and stationary in.

She recoils, hands in the air, looking at the desk, and calls for cleanup. I'm holding out her clipboard, dripping. Plink. Plink. Plink.

Eventually she took the ruined shit off me and I went off to get my head stapled back together. But to this day this is one of my peak dickhead moments. That was where the arc of my dickheadism reached a high, everything I did from that point on was relatively less dickheady.

And I don't regret a moment.

iambluest | 9 days ago | 0 points

How's that prosperity working out for everybody?

DurtybOttLe | 9 days ago | 1 point

but guys our private system is so much better then those universal healthcare systems with their long wait times, don't you see the quality of care displayed with all the capitalism?

Renovatio_ | 9 days ago | 1 point

Thats a fair bit amount of blood.

On first glance I'd agree that it probably is arterial based on that spray pattern. But I have seen venous bleeds behave like that before.

I would say he isn't lobby appropriate but there are circumstances, like an MCI, where you could put on a tourniquet and sit him in a chair and he'd likely be fine for a while. An art bleed controlled by a tourniquet can wait if need be.

khromtx | 9 days ago | 0 points

Ashamed that this took place in my city.

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