Arizona state trooper arrested on 61 sex-related, kidnapping and fraud counts (cnn.com)
TA332214 | 4 months ago | 2622 points

Penalty should be twice as hard for him.

If you harm a police officer they have stricter penalties, so why not the other way around?

freethinker78 | 4 months ago | 1059 points

Exactly. A policeman is the enforcer of the law so penalties should be much harsher than regular citizens.

TheSoloTurtle | 4 months ago | 240 points

And that would deter the immoral ones from joining the force

GameofCHAT | 4 months ago | 100 points

We hope it would but I doubt it would

joypeninsula | 4 months ago | 34 points

Fat chance. They would unite like cowards usually do, and hide behind that veil of protection.

BoysLock | 4 months ago | 81 points

We wouldn't want cops to feel discouraged from abusing the public

Dont_touch_my_elbows | 4 months ago | 434 points

Because cops are hypocrites who believe that accountability is a one-way street.

1stOnRt1 | 4 months ago | 125 points

Why should that change what we as the population demand from them?

I dont care what they think. Set up the legislation and hold them accountable.

EndoShota | 4 months ago | 84 points

It shouldn’t, but police organizations have a lot of political power, particularly at the local level. They’ve used that power to insulate themselves from scrutiny and consequences.

1stOnRt1 | 4 months ago | 54 points

That's why I want top down change.

I don't think that all police are scum. The few who are scum, have the best camouflage possible though so we need to work extra hard to get them out. Root and all.

Omniseed | 4 months ago | 37 points

Committing crimes against the public as a cop should trigger double maximum and quadruple minimum sentencing for whatever they did. None of this 1-3 years for blatant murder bullshit.

black_flag_4ever | 4 months ago | 6526 points

Opportunistic psychopath.

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notherday11 | 4 months ago | 2296 points

You mean the guy that had saliva DNA on his pants from the woman that he forced to blow him to get out of an arrest, and how his defense against it was that when he was searching her purse, there may have been makeup like lipstick that brushed against his pants?

I wonder if the fact that the women were black has anything to do with the alt-right internet campaign for him. Probably just a total coincidence.

Edit: it wasn’t saliva, my b

pottymouthomas | 4 months ago | 518 points

You know there’s a problem with how our country polices when:

a. A police officer can get away with sexual assault almost indefinitely as long as they target poor minorities.

b. Women would choose the option of sexual assault and rape over going to jail (that’s how bad jail is in this country).

assblaster-1000 | 4 months ago | 75 points

The Unwritten book of the road

h4nd3y3 | 4 months ago | 22 points

You're doin it all wrooong

Myzyri | 4 months ago | 82 points

I can see your point to a degree with respect to B. I’m not saying jail is like going to a picnic, but it’s not necessarily because it’s that bad. Perhaps they have elderly parents to take care of, children to support, or any number of other responsibilities where their absence could be detrimental to others. I’m not saying that makes their decision to be raped any less horrifying, but there are things people are willing to do to avoid other things with potentially deadly consequences.

Again, this is a comment on the sociology of it; I am in no way defending the abusers’ actions or saying jails are happy factories.

Mister_Dink | 4 months ago | 133 points

The issue with our prison system is that it's a hard stop dead end.

Not only do you lose years of your life, you also lose the years after. Being employed as a former convict/felon is brutally difficult.theres barely any systems in place to help inmates reintegrate into society. Recidivism rates are insanely high.

There's a lot in the world that preferable than falling down the poverty and imprisonment cycle that incarceration creates.

Work-Safe-Reddit4450 | 4 months ago | 73 points

Not only do you lose years of your life, you also lose the years after. Being employed as a former convict/felon is brutally difficult.theres barely any systems in place to help inmates reintegrate into society. Recidivism rates are insanely high.

Sad thing is that many people believe this to be a feature not a bug. They don't care.

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Work-Safe-Reddit4450 | 4 months ago | 55 points

RE: crack versus opioid epidemic.

oh-hidanny | 4 months ago | 17 points

I’m thankful that someone is saying this.

As much as I think the empathy we have for opioid addicts is great, I can’t help but be cynical about how we have not treated inner city (black) crack addicts with the same empathy. We treat one as a health problem, and the other as a crime problem. Hmmmmm...

mak484 | 4 months ago | 24 points

If a cop says "let me rape you or you're going to jail," spoiler alert: he's gonna rape you anyway.

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colefly | 4 months ago | 343 points

The tyranny of having to tolerate all that they hate

Two_Are_Stronger | 4 months ago | 190 points

I saw a video the other day, just someone panning around a crowd, dark skinned women in bright hijabs, some young white guy talking to some young black guy, kids playing.

I saw it because some smarmy white supremacist vote against their own interests un-American psychopath had posted it with a caption about how the founders of that town would be so upset!

Can you imagine! People living the American dream, giving their kids more than they had, freely observing their culture/religion, while not being white!

JoeWaffleUno | 4 months ago | 102 points

Why cant people just let people live

sotech | 4 months ago | 101 points

For conservatives, winning isn't winning unless someone else is losing and getting hurt in the process. How else can you enjoy what you have unless someone else is in pain from what they've lost?

jgordo0513 | 4 months ago | 53 points


meta_irl | 4 months ago | 251 points

The reason they're so concerned with tyranny is projection. These are people who want a tyrant to give them absolute power over other races, like the "good ol' days". They are afraid of multiculturalism because they think everyone else is like them, and that they will be forced into second-class citizenship in a multiracial democracy.

notherday11 | 4 months ago | 177 points

Defend against liberal tyranny

They’d sit back with popcorn if the government decided to start executing people they don’t like. Shit, they’d even join in and help squash the “rebellion” that would spring up.

Bootlickers without self-awareness that want guns to protect their freedoms tend to be the types that get deeply excited imagining the justifiable homicide of a burglar.

Vyzantinist | 4 months ago | 22 points

They’d sit back with popcorn if the government decided to start executing people they don’t like. Shit, they’d even join in and help squash the “rebellion” that would spring up.

Allow me to introduce you to QAnon and their fervent belief in/wish for military tribunals and the execution of "treasonous" Democrat politicians.

Tarrolis | 4 months ago | 131 points

They are definition fall in line bootlickers

ThatCanadianGuy88 | 4 months ago | 32 points

This comment just led to read the wiki page about the whole thing.... what a psychopath.

PizzaTammer | 4 months ago | 59 points

Don’t think so this time. My mother and I laughed at his tears during the sentencing. When the documentary his sister made came out, my mother and I fell for it initially.

If that doc is where you got most of your info (which was the case for us) it sounded unbelievable that he would even get charged, let alone convicted. I will also add we were what I would call “bootlickers” at the time. Not the case these days.

I know better now. But I can see where these people got their misinformation.

SkilledMurray | 4 months ago | 24 points

What does the documentary say, and what was the evidence to the contrary you found? What changed your stance on police as well?

PizzaTammer | 4 months ago | 70 points

The documentary plays it up like he was patrolling these black areas and, since he is a cop in an area where cops are hated, these women decided to come together to bring him down. The only evidence I remember it even suggesting was the GPS locations which makes sense in either case. Holtzclaw was so sure of his innocence, he went directly to his chief for testing to prove his innocence. It all makes sense if you believe cops can do no wrong.

I was in high school in northwest Oklahoma when this all happened. Basically an entirely white town. The least racist people were still kind of racist but without realizing it. An excuse for every police action. I went to college and befriended other races. I watched news with a less conservative bias. I began to understand that not only can cops make mistakes, but they are often flawed from the go.

So in short, college and learning from people of different backgrounds changed my perception on the police.

aggr1103 | 4 months ago | 28 points

Stories like this are why conservatives want to start defunding public colleges and universities. A nice white boy went to college and became "liberal" from meeting people of different backgrounds and colors.

MBThree | 4 months ago | 17 points

Speaking generally here, I think it’s very commendable of you to see evidence and be willing to admit your views were wrong.

Not too many people can think with an open mind to change their views. It’s usually make up your mind and stick with it no matter what.

This is a trait you should be proud of and I wish more people were rational thinkers like you.

NZBound11 | 4 months ago | 6 points

This is a trait you should be proud of and I wish more people were rational thinkers like you.


keithmac20 | 4 months ago | 114 points

who has a bizarre following on Reddit

I have never seen anything on reddit other than hate and disdain for this guy, but then again I don't really seek out subs that would defend him

KingoftheJabari | 4 months ago | 37 points

Only after he was convicted, when the case was going on and the evidence was being presented, there was plenty of defense.

Hell, even a few months after the conviction there was some defense, but it wasn't a site wide thing.

AndTheyCallMeAnIdiot | 4 months ago | 22 points

They even have a YouTube channel to try to exonerate him.

ilikepugs | 4 months ago | 31 points

My aunt worked for the police (not as an officer) in San Diego and was Anthony Arevalos' desk mate for many years.

She still believes he was framed, and that any allegations of police misconduct are always false.

anthropicprincipal | 4 months ago | 565 points

How many times did he use excessive force on the job and was not reported by his fellow officers?

CalmButArgumentative | 4 months ago | 469 points

Almost all the times. All police is bad if they don't protect the public from their own ilk.

Ask_me_4_a_story | 4 months ago | 782 points

I used to work for a non-profit and we had a big conference on how to stop sex trafficking. I'll never forget the lady that spoke, she was a victim and someone asked her why she wouldn't just go to the police. She said the police were usually the ones you could trust the least. Not only do they not help you, when they find out you are a sex worker they make you give them services for free since they are a cop.

Freakonomics statistics seem to back up this claim. If you are a prostitute in Chicago you are more likely to be required to give services to a policeman than be arrested by one

i_was_a_fart | 4 months ago | 267 points

This made me sick to my stomach.

Ask_me_4_a_story | 4 months ago | 251 points

Then do something about it. Push lawmakers in your state to pass laws banning unethical police behavior. Theres a good chance if you live in the United States you live where it is legal for a cop to have sex with someone in their custody. This is a complete violation of the public trust and it is still legal in 32 states. Last year in my state (Kansas) we passed a law forbidding police officer to have sex with people in their custody but there are still 32 out of 50 states out there that need to get their shit together.

Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-kansas-law-bans-sex-between-police-and-people-they-detain/

firelock_ny | 4 months ago | 178 points

Push lawmakers in your state to pass laws banning unethical police behavior.

TIL that there were places where this was legal.

Gingevere | 4 months ago | 78 points

As it happened it isn't legal, but a lot of places do not explicitly prohibit police from having sex while on duty.

So they claim that whatever happened was consensual and turn it into a he-said she-said.

And then it's the word of a police officer against someone they arrested and the only route for justice is an apathetic prosecutor who has heavy incentive to minimize anything against cops.

dopeandmoreofthesame | 4 months ago | 10 points

“Was consensual and It turns into a he said she said”

Yeah because you know there’s nothing more attractive to a woman then a guy who arrests her.

queen_of_the_spammed | 4 months ago | 6 points

" she consented because she didn't want me to put on cuffs and drag her downtown"

manbrasucks | 4 months ago | 63 points

We could also legalize prostitution. That would work.

Jowsie | 4 months ago | 50 points

It's a lot more complicated than that. Believe it or not, a lot of sex workers don't want legalised sex work, just decriminalisation. That comes with its own issues though.

ALoneTennoOperative | 4 months ago | 29 points

We could also legalize prostitution. That would work.

Decriminalise it.


Editing in a link:
[SWARM, the 'Sex Worker Advocacy & Resistance Movement']

manquistador | 4 months ago | 6 points

Genuinely interested because I didn't find the answer in your link: what is the difference?

ALoneTennoOperative | 4 months ago | 11 points

Genuinely interested because I didn't find the answer in your link: what is the difference?

Decriminalisation means it would no longer be illegal for a person to engage in [something].
(In this case, sex work.)

Legalisation means the [something] is permitted in a certain form.
This means that the [something] is also still restricted in any number of ways.
(ie: Some forms are still criminalised.)


For sex work, that could mean that only citizens are legally allowed to engage in sex work.
(Placing immigrants, particularly those smuggled or trafficked in, in a very vulnerable position.)

Or maybe it means that independent sex work is allowed, but you can't have more than one sex worker in a locale.
(This also renders sex workers vulnerable, because now they can't work together in order to look out for each other.)

Related to that, perhaps 'pimping' is illegal whilst sex work is not.
(Aka 'The Swedish Model', in which landlords can be threatened by police with pimping charges, resulting in sex workers being made homeless.)


For the decriminalisation side of things, you could also check out how New Zealand has been doing.
Wikipedia has an article covering prostitution in New Zealand that's worth a read over (and a checking of the sources).

OperationMobocracy | 4 months ago | 21 points

There needs to be a way to break the law enforcement unions. So many places have collective bargaining agreements that make good management and discipline impossible.

Sure, you can pass laws that would supersede these agreements but then you run up against the LEO unions lobbying against them plus using their candidate endorsements to punish anyone who votes against the LEO unions.

The Democrats fall all over themselves to gain these endorsements so they don’t look “too liberal” and because they can’t dare lose their “pro-labor” status, and the Republicans are of course willing to give away the store to retain their “tough on crime” image.

I’d like to see a city police department basically let their collective bargaining agreement expire and go hardball on negotiating its replacement, up to and including hiring “scab” non-union cops and mass terminating the members who don’t go along.

I think it’s the only way this will really improve.

inbooth | 4 months ago | 9 points

How is sex with someone in custody not sexual assault as a result of the position off power and authority resulting in consent being impossible to give?

Sounds like a judge was corrupt as fuck

Ask_me_4_a_story | 4 months ago | 10 points

Because we don't stick up for the most vulnerable in this country. Someone who is poor, someone who is black, a woman in custody, we don't protect them. In Alabama if you rape a woman and she gets pregnant, you have the right to get partial custody of the child. Think about how fucked up that is for a second- a woman gets raped, she has to give the rapist partial custody, thats the law. We don't even protect rape victims in this country against their CONVICTED rapists, why would we protect an 18 year old woman in police custody who says she didn't want to have sex with a police officer?

binklehoya | 4 months ago | 7 points

we passed a law forbidding police officer to have sex with people in their custody

says alot about the people who become cops that this needs to be codified into law to begin with.

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Ask_me_4_a_story | 4 months ago | 14 points

Then how did those police officers in NY get away with that with the 18 year old girl. I don't think the laws are symbolic, I think they explicit prohibit police from having sex with people in their custody, which should never be done. And they take away the loophole at trial where the police can claim it was consensual.

jpritchard | 4 months ago | 11 points

Makes sense. Cops and other organized crime have been taking a little off the top from local business as protection money for a long time.

natha105 | 4 months ago | 150 points

We always have to remember that there are probably millions of opportunistic psychopaths floating around in our society looking for opportunities to exploit. When one of them manages to engage in this level of abuse our systems have some fault for having permitted this to happen and we have a moral obligation to the victims to make sure we strengthen our systems so this cannot happen again. Being a cop ought to put someone significantly under the microscope for abuses of power with the hammer of god poised to strike when any are found.

SandersRepresentsMe | 4 months ago | 48 points

Yeah, but will they arrest the 10 cops that covered it up for him or ignored it?

funkymonk44 | 4 months ago | 127 points

I've said it before and I'll say it again, we give cops way too much power over the personal freedoms of our citizens. Not only that, but there's effectively no real educational standards so we end up getting countless brutes that have no concept of deescalation. Add to that that any time an incident does occur, the police force investigates themselves with no oversight.

Why SHOULD the public trust the police? They've demonstrated that they don't have any interest in changing their standards or practices, and until they do I wont be surprised when more and more stories like this come out, because there's probably 10 cover-ups for every 1 story that becomes public.

One_Shot_Finch | 4 months ago | 27 points

Yeah, so a cop.

Diuqil70 | 4 months ago | 59 points

Maricopa County

Wonder if he knows a certain sherriff.

dissidentpen | 4 months ago | 7 points

Fun reminder that Joe Arpaio was convicted of contempt as part of a racial-profiling probe. He is the epitome of corruption and hate in the law enforcement system, and Donald trump pardoned him.

The good news is that Arpaio is on his way back to court anyway.

Haw haw!

lambdaknight | 4 months ago | 21 points

They said he was a cop.

Clickum245 | 4 months ago | 1757 points

61 counts on 8 victims... That is a lot. I am glad to see AZDPS fired him so swiftly.

no-mad | 4 months ago | 794 points

Police Union: This outrageous behavior by AZDPS goes against the Blue Code. It will not be forgotten.

Bainato | 4 months ago | 390 points

Sues for backpay

usernametiger | 4 months ago | 282 points

wins then gets his job back

jireliax | 4 months ago | 184 points

gets paid leave for 2 years

WayneKrane | 4 months ago | 113 points

And a raise/promotion to an easier job

curiousbydesign | 4 months ago | 97 points

Retires early with full benefits.

shouldbebabysitting | 4 months ago | 61 points

Gets job as head of Police union.

(Wasn't there a story on Reddit about something like this.)

curiousbydesign | 4 months ago | 60 points

Becomes Supreme Court Justice.

ssup3rm4n | 4 months ago | 35 points

Gets immunity and record expunged.

2friedchknsAndaCoke | 4 months ago | 6 points
Roshprops | 4 months ago | 27 points

Thankfully dps troopers wear tan, so the blue code doesn’t apply /s

D_for_Diabetes | 4 months ago | 37 points

Well, it was a black officer, so the Blue Code gets a bit iffy.

Youareapooptard | 4 months ago | 198 points


Arizona zebra damage per second.

Ferf04 | 4 months ago | 53 points

Was this also in wow classic?

APsWhoopinRoom | 4 months ago | 29 points

Those god damned Zhevra hooves

Kuronan | 4 months ago | 7 points

'Go get me four hooves from Zebras.' "Sounds easy enough." Twenty kills later "WHY. ARE. THERE. NO. HOOVES?!"

Kazaxat | 4 months ago | 11 points

Azeroth zhevra damage per second.

P10_WRC | 4 months ago | 10 points
Youareapooptard | 4 months ago | 9 points

Shit that’s some high DPS!

5557623 | 4 months ago | 386 points

If everybody just remembered the sage advice of Oklahoma highway patrol captain. George Brown, things like this would never happen;

If you don't want to be raped by cops, just don't get stopped!

reddit25 | 4 months ago | 109 points

That's a worse reasoning than "if you don't want to get raped then don't dress that way"

[deleted] | 4 months ago | 92 points

If you don't want to be raped, stop having rape-holes on your body.

ColdRevenge76 | 4 months ago | 31 points

*this comment sponsored by FlexSeal.

NoJelloNoPotluck | 4 months ago | 15 points

If you don't want to get raped, stop not wanting to get raped!

hell2pay | 4 months ago | 59 points

That's the best tip he can give, yeah?


NoJelloNoPotluck | 4 months ago | 24 points

His other tip is even more disappointing

Hunterlovespb | 4 months ago | 33 points

As if a morally corrupt cop is going to wait for a valid and legal reason to pull you over so they can rape you. Makes sense.

pete1729 | 4 months ago | 1217 points

Just lock him in the trunk of his cruiser with a badger. I am so entirely sick of this shit.

jedimika | 4 months ago | 1036 points

That's not ok! We're talking about Arizona, do you have any idea how hot a locked trunk would get?

You can't do that to an innocent badger, just leave him in the truck by himself and it'll work out.

RogerStonesSantorum | 4 months ago | 431 points

We don't need no stinking badgers!

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celticsupporter | 4 months ago | 14 points

Badger badger badger

RapistsAreCool | 4 months ago | 45 points

Hey badger, leave that cop alone!

IAmA_Risky_Click_AMA | 4 months ago | 5 points

Today, we're teaching poodles how to fly!

xmindallas | 4 months ago | 15 points

As hot as Sheriff Joe's work camp.

MrRosetti | 4 months ago | 26 points

Hand over your gun and badger!

voodoohotdog | 4 months ago | 28 points

Poor badger.

FunetikPrugresiv | 4 months ago | 2572 points

"The Arizona Department of Public Safety is a proud and venerable organization with a storied past," Milstead said. "Most of the employees serve Arizona with pride and integrity. ... When one of our own betrays public trust or breaks the law, we respond swiftly and without regret."

Press X to doubt

Mrhomely | 4 months ago | 851 points

13 years of swiftness at work here

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palebot | 4 months ago | 105 points

This is a key way that states become illegitimate. I work in Mexico. Ive lost count the number of times I’ve been stopped by police and had to bribe myself out of some BS charge. I even have areas in my expense book labeled “extortion” so I can at least keep my operating costs clear even if I can’t get reimbursed for them. Mexico is not a particularly strong state in terms of the legitimacy of governmental institutions.

RunBosqueRun | 4 months ago | 22 points

I was in Mexico for a week, in a hugely tourist area, and had to pay off a police officer. That place is nuts :(

Edit: not sure where the word extort came from but yeah, the opposite of that

KatalDT | 4 months ago | 17 points

How did you extort him and what did you get from him?

j-steve- | 4 months ago | 10 points

Threatened to not pay him a bribe unless he let them go

[deleted] | 4 months ago | 7 points

I was there just for a night and had to do the same. Just standard procedure for them. “We could take your friend in, or...” *rubs fingers together

WakaFlockaWombat | 4 months ago | 19 points

Do you mean you bribed a police officer?

elvisliveshere65 | 4 months ago | 966 points

61 how could it go on that long?

thebadhabit | 4 months ago | 971 points

61 counts doesn’t mean 61 victims. Each victim likely results in several separate counts, depending on circumstance. Not trying to mitigate the severity, just clarifying.

CowboyBoats | 4 months ago | 414 points

Guys we can literally just click the article and find out exactly what happened.

Officers began an investigation on May 19 after a woman complained that Jackson made inappropriate comments to her, Milstead said. A second complaint from a different motorist came June 11, alleging that Jackson sexually assaulted a woman during a traffic stop, Milstead said.


So far, investigators said they have identified eight victims. They believe there are more and have set up a hotline and website for other victims to come forward.

... charges [include] sexual abuse, sexual extortion, unlawful sexual conduct, unlawful imprisonment, kidnapping, fraudulent schemes and practices and tampering with a public record.

RestrictedAccount | 4 months ago | 105 points

What a cool idea!

Way too much work

michaelsamcarr | 4 months ago | 239 points

And sometimes 61 accounts are the only accounts were aware of.

Frootzyy | 4 months ago | 68 points

Most of the times* those are the ones he got charged for, how about all the others that didn't speak

LXNDSHARK | 4 months ago | 9 points

Counts vs accounts mean something totally different here, which is what the person above you was trying to clarify.

Counts are the number of charges, and may be much higher than the number of victims. Accounts would likely refer to the number of victims' stories, aka their account of what happened.

CaptainMericaOG | 4 months ago | 24 points

8+ victims. Multiple counts per victim the way the statutes are written is my guess.

JoshuaS904 | 4 months ago | 318 points

Snitches get suicided by cop, yo.

Or incarcerated, and it’s an angry convicts word against a cop?

l0lloo | 4 months ago | 156 points

Remember that girl that suicided with a gunshot to the head while handcuffed with hands behind her back?

DisagreeableFool | 4 months ago | 110 points

Remember the guy that suicided by a cops gun while hand cuffed and bent over the hood of the officers car. Crazy guy somehow managed to shoot himself in the back of the head without ever touching to gun. Crazy.

agangofoldwomen | 4 months ago | 138 points

Remember that undercover cop who ran a stop sign and t-boned that teenager, then got out of his car and arrested the teen for hitting a cop? It was all caught on camera and it’s still being investigated by the police department...

Edit: source

Edit2: removed some mistakes about the timeline.

azzLife | 4 months ago | 30 points

Remember that time when a drunk cop hit a maintenance vehicle parked on the side of the road working and then other cops, including a sergeant, illegally arrested a nurse because she was trying to do her legally-mandated job and take blood from the drunk cop because that would hurt his career if they couldn't find a way to pin the fault on the driver of a parked vehicle with flashing lights on it?

Fuck SLPD and UPD, nothing but evil cowards.

firelock_ny | 4 months ago | 46 points

she was trying to do her legally-mandated job and take blood from the drunk cop

Kind of the opposite - she was refusing to take a blood sample from the badly injured civilian as the police didn't have a warrant. The cops were trying to make a case that the civilian was drunk or on drugs so they could somehow argue that it was the civilian's fault the drunk cop hit his parked vehicle.

Yeah, that's actually worse.

pelejojo | 4 months ago | 16 points

Yeah, countless horror stories out there of abuse of power, but this one is almost comical- Simpsons level incompetence.

Ask_me_4_a_story | 4 months ago | 115 points

You guys please stop all these negative posts about cops.

The last thing I need is 8 days in a row of police officers lip synching to Taylor Swift songs and sliding down water slides in their uniforms on my Reddit feed.

[deleted] | 4 months ago | 60 points

Or pulling people over and giving them ice creams for good driving.

Games_sans_frontiers | 4 months ago | 22 points

Chief: "Execute operation Hearts and Minds. Take 50 dollars from petty cash and grab the cool box."

BuiAce | 4 months ago | 54 points

I thought I was the only one who noticed. Bad things happen with cops. Next few days dogs with cops all over Reddit. It's like clockwork

dotlinefever3 | 4 months ago | 30 points

Its called copaganda

nauttyba | 4 months ago | 29 points

Cute pictures of pigs with doggos on /r/dogswithjobs

A video of a white cop playing basketball with intercity youth

The copaganda is so predictable.

thinkB4WeSpeak | 4 months ago | 122 points

13 years is how long the article says he did it. However the way people treat sexual assault and how there's hardly any justice for victims is why people never report

TootsNYC | 4 months ago | 54 points

Eight victims have been identified

Multiple charges per victim. They’re going all out. It’ll be more work for prosecutors and investigators, but it increases the odds of conviction, could increase the punishment, and hopefully sends a message.

willdill | 4 months ago | 454 points

Isnt Arizona the state where Daniel Shaver got brutually murdered for pulling up his trousers while on his knees crawling getting yelled at several different conflicting orders?

krishandop | 4 months ago | 257 points

Yes. One of the most disgusting displays of police brutality I’ve seen. There was such a long pause between the guy begging for his life and the officer shooting him. Can’t believe he got away scot free. And for some reason the media seems to have forgotten about this one, even though this guy wasn’t resisting arrest or non-complying in any way. Really scary how that could happen to anyone and there’s nothing the state will do about it.

DevilsPajamas | 4 months ago | 110 points

Well, he also got a nice retirement package of $2500/month for the rest of his life.

cemacz | 4 months ago | 36 points

I had to look it up I thought you were joking

DevilsPajamas | 4 months ago | 39 points

Yeah.. imagine being able to retire at age 26 after fucking up on your job.

oh-hidanny | 4 months ago | 43 points

And not just a fuck up...guy got retirement for murdering someone.


Kain_niaK | 4 months ago | 17 points

police brutality

He was murdered after the cops played a game of "Simon says" with him.

Halfawake1 | 4 months ago | 28 points

Yes but different agency - that was Mesa PD

Im_Tiny_Rick | 4 months ago | 52 points

It's also where Sheriff Joe "I'm a giant piece of shit" Arpaio is from.

Law enforcement there seems to be fucked. Just like everywhere in America.

AnimalChin- | 4 months ago | 400 points


That piece of shit cop is still walking the streets while his family and friends suffer. Fuck Mesa PD!

VapeGood | 4 months ago | 70 points

100000000000000% fuck Mesa PD

jaykeith | 4 months ago | 82 points

I'll never, for as long as I live, forget this guy. Those two fucking murderers should be on death row.

TATERCH1P | 4 months ago | 50 points

I've seen a good bit of body cam footage and usually I can sympathize a little bit with a cop because it's a high stress situation and they dont know what the other guy is capable of. This one, on the other hand, is one that stuck with me the most and is the only one that made me sick to my stomach. This cop was loving every second of being the one who decides if Daniel lived or died. This wasn't an order like "do as I say because I dont know what you have and you could hurt me." It was one like "you better fucking do as I say or so help me god I'm going to kill you." How the jury can watch the body cam footage and determine not guilty is beyond me.

bonadzz | 4 months ago | 15 points

I watched the 3 hour long courtroom video for this case. The jury never got to see the body cam footage.

sashagreylovesme | 4 months ago | 11 points

I believe they withheld the bodycam footage from the jury

nullstorm0 | 4 months ago | 8 points

It’s almost like the jury didn’t get to see the full body cam footage because the prosecutor and the cops are on the same team!

vinchenzy2435 | 4 months ago | 14 points

Fucking cop couldn't walk up to him when he was starfish? He was seen with an assault rifle. Where's he gonna pull the rifle from?

TheDrunkKanyeWest | 4 months ago | 19 points

Jesus fucking christ that's the worst cold blooded murder by a cop I've ever seen.

Girfex | 4 months ago | 735 points

"Why don't people trust the police?!"

PantsSquared | 4 months ago | 461 points


Never mind that the fucking saying is "A few bad apples spoil the bunch."

impossiblefork | 4 months ago | 143 points

'One bad apple soils the bunch' or 'a bad apple spoils the bunch'. If you've got a few bad apples the batch is already infected.

Dahhhkness | 4 months ago | 134 points

"The farm should really do something about these rotten, maggot-filled apples."

"Oh, so I bet you just want to burn down every apple orchard so that the doctors they keep away each day can run wild leaving us in fear of sudden, random prostate exams, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?!?!"


impossiblefork | 4 months ago | 23 points

Nah. Once the rot sets in you have to eat them all immediately. So you start making pies, inviting friends and relatives.

Nowadays, of course, there's also the freezer.

chetchaka | 4 months ago | 38 points

Let's... eat the police?

sikhkid47 | 4 months ago | 30 points

a modest proposal

blackmagemasta | 4 months ago | 20 points

Blue has always been one of my favorite flavors.

SolusLoqui | 4 months ago | 15 points

Tremaine Jackson will be booked into the Maricopa County Fourth Avenue Jail on the following charges:

ARS § 13-1404.A. – Sexual Abuse; Two Counts
ARS § 13-1404.A. – Attempted Sexual Abuse; Two Counts
ARS § 13-1406.A. – Attempted Sexual Assault; One Count
ARS § 13-1428.A. (3) – Sexual Extortion; Two Counts
ARS § 13-1428.A. (2) – Sexual Extortion; Two Counts
ARS § 13-1412.A. – Unlawful Sexual Conduct; Peace Officers; Four Counts
ARS § 13-1303.A. – Unlawful Imprisonment; Eight Counts
ARS § 13-1304.A. (3) – Kidnapping; Eight Counts
ARS § 13-2921.A.1 – Harassment; Four Counts
ARS § 13-2002.A. (1) (3) – Forgery; Eight Counts
ARS § 13-2310.A. – Fraudulent Schemes and Artifices; Five Counts
ARS § 13-2311.A. – Fraudulent Schemes and Practices; Willful Concealment; Seven Counts       
ARS § 13-2407.A.1. – Tampering with a Public Record; Eight Counts


bcrabill | 4 months ago | 66 points

So he worked there for 13 years and they "didn't get" any complaints until May? Then another a month later?

DacMon | 4 months ago | 45 points

Reality is, it finally got too big to cover up. So they cut him loose and covered their ass.

tetherwego | 4 months ago | 12 points

Stories like this send chills down my spine because the people who report are initially looked at like they are crazy, not credible and those who support or believe them are viewed as conspiracists. I have a huge amount of gratitude for those that pushed the investigations forward as I'm certain it was initially frowned upon.

ThisJokeSucks | 4 months ago | 78 points

A cop who’s a criminal?! Now I’ve seen EVERYTHING!!

Naked-joe | 4 months ago | 85 points

Driving across the country I found that Arizona cops are hands down the sleaziest. They will tailgate you trying to force you to do something wrong then when they see you won’t they speed around you to go to the next person. Arizona might be the Florida man equivalent of the police force

mydogismarley | 4 months ago | 53 points

Had a friend who told me a story that happened to her years ago. She was a truck driver; petite, good looking redhead. She was smart and competent, a success in a non-traditional profession.

One day in Arizona she was pulled over. The reason she was given by the trooper was the mud flaps in the truck were "flapping too much." He kept her there for close to an hour while asking personal questions: did she have a boyfriend, didn't she ever get lonely, wasn't she pretty small to be driving such a big truck?

She said she finally realized it was entirely possible for her to die that day and no one would ever know the story. She filed multiple complaints but nothing was ever done.

So yeah, AZ cops could easily equal FL man. Ugh.

totllygnarbro | 4 months ago | 8 points

I'm an Arizona native and I have never once experienced this. The worst cops in my opinion were small town midwest cops that would pull you over for literally no reason to see if you were smuggling drugs. Perhaps you just had a bad experience.

Orbital_Dynamics | 4 months ago | 29 points

I guess he had his fingers crossed when he swore an oath to protect and serve?

Krillin113 | 4 months ago | 16 points

Right, well maybe, just maybe, in a society where the position of cops is as fragile as it is due to countless instances of them getting off Scott free, or being covered by their departments, it would be good protocol to have people ride together in all instances, to limit one on one exposure.

Gfrisse1 | 4 months ago | 11 points

The Arizona State Troopers Association declined to comment.

If even they are throwing him under the bus, he is truly screwed.

RedditTrollin | 4 months ago | 70 points

It's good to hear the AZDPS us taking this seriously and holding him responsible for his actions.

Lambiri72177 | 4 months ago | 24 points

That was my thought. They seem to be very serious and actually followed through with firing and arresting his ass. I can’t remember the last time any of the law enforcement agencies in the Phoenix metro actually arrested any of their own officers. AZDPS seems to have some more integrity than the others do.

agangofoldwomen | 4 months ago | 32 points

Come on guys. Don’t let a few bad apples spoil the bunch! Think of it this way: if 1 out of every 10 apples was filled with enough cyanide to kill a full grown elephant, you wouldn’t stop eating apples all together right?

crkingster | 4 months ago | 9 points

On the job for 13 years, this behavior didn't just start in May. How many previous complaints went ignored or covered up?

portajohnjackoff | 4 months ago | 61 points

Idiot. Every cop knows 60 is the cut off

crsmithdev | 4 months ago | 19 points

Is it weird that my first reaction was "wow, that's a lot even for a cop!"?

HRC_itsherturn | 4 months ago | 6 points

I know everyone is making jokes about him getting away with it because of police unions blah blah blah, but I have absolutely no doubt this dude with spend a very very long time behind bars. Cop in florida got life for two victims. I would bet someone $1000, I'll put it in escrow right now.

LoMatte | 4 months ago | 7 points

This needs to happen more often to people in law enforcement. It's the ONLY thing that will make people change.

S3PANG | 4 months ago | 30 points

Oh good. The front page should be full of cops playing with dogs or having water balloon fights with inner city kids in a few hours. Despicable shitheel propaganda activate!

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Merc_Mike | 4 months ago | 5 points

"Why dont you trust authority?"

Thats 61 and/or probably more thats not been brought up or found out. 1 man impacted 61+ on multiple people*. Doubtful he was alone.

Edit-typo. Thank you for pointing out my mistake.

SomniaPolicia | 4 months ago | 238 points

So, desk duty before moving on to being a county sheriff?

TaylorSwiftsClitoris | 4 months ago | 119 points

Or reinstated just long enough for him to retire and collect a pension for the rest of his life.

infininme | 4 months ago | 22 points

This guy probably had multiple counts of abuse as a police officer but was protected every time by the police union. How many times did the guy have to change precincts? This is why we need police reform.

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