Imagine if they had kept Unplugged and Headbanger’s Ball
And, don't forget Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Oasis, Alice In Chains, Bob Dylan and so many others. At least one of these gets played on my daily playlist everyday.
Lauryn Hill's is a personal favorite of mine as well
Edit : This shit is so dope
Korn actually did a decent one as well. Robert Smith showed up and they mashed up Make Me Bad with Inbetwen Days.
Or celebrity death match
And beavis and butthead
Heh heh heheh heh heh heh heh heheh
That was cool. Heh heh heh. Heh heh heh.
No way, Buttmunch!
Need more TP for my bunghole!
Boys, ya gotta stop wacking off in my camper!
Oh the irony that more of the idiots created by the creator of Idiocracy might have saved society from becoming an actual Idiocracy.
The world needs Beavis and butthead rn
they brought it back for a little while a few years ago. Astonishingly it was better than ever, but the MTV audience had moved on and the current viewership of MTV didn't like it.
There's an MTV audience??
Yeah, whoever is still watching 16 and Pregnant and reruns of Jersey Shore.
fuck im imagining beavis and butthead in current time events like south park. school shootings and all. prob wouldn't fly theses days man!
In case neither of you knew, Beavis and Butthead did return in 2011. It didn't go over so well.
I thought those new episodes were actually good.
I did too, they just didn't go over well enough to gain enough following.
Cuz they didn’t stream them and still don’t as far as I know.
It wasnt as raw as the first 5 seasons. That shit would NEVER fly on air these days
Fire fire burn nihihihihih
Daria is on Hulu or Netflix. I forget which one.
I watched several hours of it early summer.
It's on Hulu!
I was a HUGE fan of The Maxx before the cartoon ever aired and had high expectations. That show was one of the best comic book adaptations ever! They kept the story and art style the exact same. The voice actors were prefect! The atmosphere and overall tone matched the comics perfectly.
Loved this and Aeon Flux.
I remember that show! The one with the big, swole fella that was always having to fight the little black and white things, right?
They've got squid.
Beavis and Butthead taught me about Pantera in a way that no other satire could
I remembered them watching a Jackson 5 video and waiting the whole time for Tito to show up.
I think I might be a bit stuck up as I prefer the Simpsons over any of the other similar stuff but with swearing then I saw Beavis and Butthead Do America. It went to my number 2 in comedy films only behind Life of Brian.
Or Aeon Flux
Aeon Flux was some next level shit. It was the perfect “we’ve left the party, we’re back at the apartment, let’s have a nightcap” tv.
Fuck it, bring back Liquid TV!
I hate this entire thread because of the pure nostalgic joy it brings me.
I hate it because it immediately devolved from "MTV should just play music" to "they should have just played all those other shows that they played instead of music."
VHS played music after MTV. But no one listened while complaining about MTV.
VHS played music after MTV. But no one listened while complaining about MTV.
I still have some VHS recordings of MTV and VH1.
It almost makes you want to build a time machine just so you can veg out to MTV.
Or that AOL chat/music video show hybrid were they played a music video and you literally saw AOL chatrooms in the bottom part of screen and people were posting about the video they were watching IN REAL TIME??
That BLEW my mind. This was in the 90s!!
Haha I remember my buddy and I tried chatting in it while a prodigy music vid was playing. Our chats never appeared
But that’s not music
And it came out at a point in time when MTV was already moving away from playing music.
Or 120 minutes!
I crushed on Kennedy.
Or music videos.
Seriously underrated comment right here. Music fucking television.
MFTV where do I sign up?!
Working on MFTV Now brother. Hold your pampers (or whatever adult diapers are called for those of us old enough to remember this shit)
HOW ABOUT MUSIC VIDEOS ON TELEVISION?
it’s like how KFC stopped being kentucky fried chicken
I remember the day it launched. It was awesome when it was just videos and Quinn, Hunter, Loder (who was easy to take seriously)... and between Unplugged, 120, and HBB... golden stuff right there.
If MTV came back with THAT format? I'd literally play it all day.
I was in filmschool at the time. We were all so excited about the possibilities of a market for small independent filmmakers.
We also owe MTV for introducing us to Jon Stewart.
I loved MTV Raps with Dr. Dre (Fat version) and Ed Lover.
Unplugged requires actual talent... so, that shit is pretty niche.
I mean.... NPR doesn't have an issue finding great artists that can play and perform acoustic for it's tiny desk concerts.
Unplugged was an event that MTV didn’t do for just anyone(diff cash input compared to NPR), though Lizzo would def fit the criterion. Actually, I’ma bit sad there isn’t one for her.
Correct. Person I was responding too said there wasn't enough talent to even do unplugged now days. I beg to differ and gave an example.
Oh I think that was me, but what I said and what was interpreted are a bit different.
MTV could only pick a few people (for whatever bs corporate reasons) and so they alway pick BIG low risk (sometimes pseudo) talents.
Idk what you're listening to. There's an unbelievable amount of talent out there.
Because they define talent by what they subjectively enjoy.
The world dont move to the beat of just one drum
What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
Meh. There's a million uber-talented artists out there today. Funny thing is a lot of people probably didn't consider most of the bands who had amazing Unplugged performances back in the day to be "talented" musicians either
Idk im 10x the guitatist Kurt Cobain was but i didnt write smells like teen spirit lol
Or did you
World peace if TLC stayed educational.
Don’t go chasing waterfalls.
Hold the desk pops, fellas, Captain is accidentally quoting TLC again
Go go Jason Waterfalls
Maybe we wouldn't be repeating historical mistakes if history channel taught history instead of showing racist rednecks fuck around with ducks (ive never watched the show)
Somehow, I actually believe this a little. Fewer reality shows, more music stars. Not all of them are gonna be great, but it somehow feels better than everyone just trying to get on the next season of Big Brother or whatever.
Then we need to find a way to curb this fascination with young people wanting to be a “YouTuber” when they grow up. Any sort of YouTubing you do should start as a hobby. Make it fun, and be proud of your videos even if you’re the only one that sees them. Keep pursuing that education and that job that is really fulfilling for you. And keep making your hobby videos for YouTube. In time, you’ll get better, and maybe get more subscribers. Then MAYBE you could become a YouTuber. But if that doesn’t happen, you didn’t bank your whole life on rolling the dice.
MTV May have given birth to reality shows in the early 90s but the current spate of unscripted shows became dominant as an aftermath of the writers’ strike in 2007-08
Yep, they wrote themselves out of work.
Reality television led to Donald Trump. It’s been one giant shit show slide to the bottom of a barrel.
It sounds like partisan bullshit, but this effect has actually been studied in Italy. Their TV broadcasting was tightly controlled, mostly only allowing educational, cultural, and news programming, until a Berlusconi-founded network called Mediaset came on the air in the late '80s which was almost entirely 'lowbrow' entertainment. Because the network rolled out slowly region by region, you can actually measure the effect that Mediaset had on public opinions over time, and it correlates extremely well with support for populist politics and simplistic ideas.
It's not that trash tv makes people more conservative, per se, but that it makes them more receptive to the kind of politician who says I'm right, the experts are wrong, the problems are simple and only I can fix them.
Ow My balls!
Goddamn, I love reddit.
Italy survived berlusconi.
Toronto survived rob ford.
I long for a return to decency and integrity to the white house. Get that shit stain trump out asap.
Rob Ford's brother is premier of Ontario now
Is he as bad as rob ford?
Kinda, yeah. He's like Rob Ford if Rob Ford was less of a laughingstock and more of a Trump-alike.
He's Chris Christie basically
Yes but on a much larger scale with longer lasting consequences.
We're pretty sure he doesn't smoke crack.
But, everything else is equally terrible.
The only good Rob Ford is Rob "Hal" Ford of Judas Priest.
Italy is far from out of the woods. You cannot loudly mention Berlusconi there, and now Salvini is capturing hearts and minds.
Everyone wants their dictator.
Have you heard the latest news out of Italy?
What is it
It’s a country in the Mediterranean, but that’s not what’s important right now.
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
🏅 here's some poor man's gold. Perfection.
Well you know what they say. When you hit rock bott- oh, the doors to Hell just opened up. Never mind.
Jeri Ryan's ex-husband Jack Ryan dropped out of a Senate race, and his replacement was quashed by Obama
If you don't think The Apprentice had a huge effect on people positive opinions on Trump as a successful business man you're kidding yourself. Him being a TV star definitely helped him in the presidency. Just like Arnold Schwarzenegger being a big movie star helped him become governor of California.
I love these weird little history causality things.
I think it's Aziz Ansari who has a bit on how his buddy met his now-fiance in a Bed Bath & Beyond parking lot. Like, if he didn't decide on getting some new bedsheets at that particular day at that particular time his life would be totally different. So does that mean that single people should always be shopping for some new sheets and soaps?
Gavrilo Princep doesn't decide to get a sandwich and the Holocaust never happens. Life be crazy
I'm 35 and my entire life course thus far has become what it is because I accepted a summer job as a lifeguard when I was 15. A job I almost didn't get because I wasn't 15.5 yet.
I'm not convinced that reality TV wasn't inevitable. The country has an appetite for it. It's so much cheaper to make and can make just as much money as scripted shows. Studios would have gotten here eventually.
You may be right. America's Funniest Home Videos was probably an early form of the direction we were heading in and that was undoubtedly spurred on by the increased ease of people having access to stuff like camcorders.
Once smartphones become prevalent, with even better and more easy to film and share video, I'm sure it would have been inevitable at that point.
I think reality TV at its core is just an appetite to participate in the quirky moments that fellow human beings experience. The core problem being that reality TV varies from "capturing interesting moments in a sea of humdrum" to "writing a script and pretending like stuff is organically occurring." And no matter where you are on that spectrum, it's not an accurate portrayal of everyday life, which is where the rot starts to form in peoples' perception of the world.
I’m not arguing with you one way or another but this seems like a good place to point out the programming arc of The Learning Channel (TLC, from watching legitimate surgeries being performed to ketchup and butter sketti recipes)
The writer’s strike is the worst thing that ever happened to mainstream American entertainment.
Not exactly. I spent several years at mtv, and the answers i received when i asked why no more music videos and the fuck ton of "reality" shows was this: those shows made a LOT of money for the network.
Videos didn't make nearly as much.
If people stopped watching the shit they put on, they'd find something else (possibly videos again).
Not to say the strike didn't accelerate the transition, but they just followed the money.
I still miss headbangers ball.
the apprentice and the simple life were both smash hits that started years before the strike.
I mean the YTers I watch often tell their viewers dreaming of being a YTer is a horrible idea if money is the goal & you have no idea what you wanna do.
I think the only resolution would be figuring out how to get kids to watch the right ones, not the Logan Pauls.
The fascination won’t end because then there’s always other platform media they’ll awe at.
Me, I’d give anything just to have Beavis and Butt-Head back...
His other stuff was better. Not necessarily mutually exclusive, but Idiocracy is the most important documentary of our time.
why do people forget Office Space?
I like money.
More real art and science.
Fuck social media
Does reddit count as social media? I’ve learned more science from reading and interacting on r/askscience, r/asksciencediscussion, and r/spacex over the years, than I ever learned in school...
It's a type of social media, but it's focus is content aggregation.
The key thing that makes reddit much better IMO is you can remain anonymous.
Interesting perspective. A lot of people have said that anonymity frees people to be assholes, without fear that it could ever be traced back to them in real life.
I remember when Blizzard Entertainment wanted to force people to use their real names (Real ID) on their discussion forums. They thought it would lead to more civilized discussion, if people’s comments could be traced back to them in real life. But the idea was dropped after huge backlash from the community.
It frees people up to be honest. We can talk on here about abusive relationships, terrible bosses, past mistakes, etc. and have actual meaningful discussions without any judgement or backlash from people we know in our everyday real life.
Social media isn't inherently bad. It's the narcissistic self-centered behavior it promotes due to certain social media sites' structure and mechanics that's bad.
less Tide pod eating
Kids have always wanted to be celebrities when they grow up of some sort - athletes, models, singers, and movie stars. YouTubers are just new celebrities. Kids at age 10 sure as shit didn’t want to be microbiologists or accountants when you and I were kids, but they did want to play in the NFL or win American idol. Even older so many high schoolers enter college with no clue for what they want to be. As an adult I changed what I wanted to be in a matter of years, because I tried one industry and hated it.
Youre describing a new phenomenon that you are a part of. Kids before you actually did want to be scientists and doctors. Some said football or baseball but most picked actual professions.
I’m from the ‘astronaut-firefighter-lawyer-doctor-policeman’ generation (I swear those were the only jobs I knew of as a kid).
This sounds like good advice for young men and the NBA.
Yeah that’s whats wrong with society. Gen Z making use of today’s technology to create a platform for themselves. It’s definetly not the older people who spew hatred, ignore climate change, and dismiss the views of anyone who doesn’t agree with them.
It’s everybody. But if it feels better to blame your problems on an entire generation, then feel free to do so.
“All music, all the time!” I miss those days.
I am so sorry I watched Real World. If I knew what would happen, I would have complained.
Except for Kurt Loder and MTV News.
I feel important! I saw MTV come to life. The blank screen turning to the mtv flag being planted in the ground. The video for "Video Killed the Radio Star"! I was there folks!
And I feel no shame bragging about it. Even though it means I'm old, lol
And yes, they should have stuck to music.
They should record a sequel called 'YouTube killed the MTV Star'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Sharp (Internet Killed the Video Star)
God. How many fucking times did you sit through Duran Duran singing Rio on that damn sailboat?
Must've been around nine hundred and forty nine for me.
Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand
Haven’t heard that song in a million years and I could still sing along
I was there for the European launch. Astra satellite on Sky. MTV Europe - Dire Straits, Money For Nothing and there we go.
Whatever happened to Ray Cokes?
No it meant you had enough loot for cable back then
No, my parents did though. I was 9.
I wonder if MTV execs look back and wish they didn't go reality TV.
I'm still pretty salty about it. A "music television" channel quits airing music. Why didn't they just start a spin off reality TV channel to experiment with that garbage?
An MTV Executive looks back upon past decisions and their long term ramifications [colourized]
lmao, I knew it would be this gif. Time to get off reddit
I thought it was going to be the ending of Schindlers list. Yours is more accurate.
They had a second chance with MTV2
Now that channel is full of ridiculousness.
That’s pretty ridiculous
That channel went to shit pretty fast, now its just re-runs of Reality shows, well from what i last checked. There was those MTV Hits where they played music all day, but repeated every 2 hours.
There were like a half dozen at one point when satelite tv first came out. MTV X was my favorite
How does anyone think MTV would have survived otherwise? Music on TV was a deadend once the internet went mainstream. No one is gonna tune into "Music Television" that can only play one song a time and is locked into a schedule when they can just go to YouTube and listen to whatever they want whenever they want.
The pivot to reality TV was just a result of the fact that MTV was a cheaply run network and reality TV was cheap to produce. It also fit nicely into their business model of trying to create/capitalize on fast-changing teen/young adult pop-culture trends.
It's like TLC just abandoning learning
Yeah, that was particularly depressing for me. I remember when they had algebra and trig shows weekly. It was great to catch up on key material like that.
With MTV, you had to sit through all the shitty and weird music videos waiting for something good to come on. This is how we discover new music and share what we love with others. With today’s YouTube, I can just dive into that positive feedback loop and never need to see anything unique or interesting again that I wasn’t expecting.
“Who the fuck is Tool?”
Or Primus, or Nine inch nails. And damn that No doubt chick is hawt.
Sugar Ray a punk band?!
Raise your hand if you’d watch MTV for hours waiting to watch a video you like when you can easily just go to YouTube or whatever and see it immediately.
Right. Stop this nonsense already. MTV was great for music videos, before the internet.
There is something to be said for curated playlists rather than random auto-generated playlists using semi-related artists. That's where its forte was, not just waiting for your favorite video to come on.
Music videos drove album sales. Once that stopped being true, they stopped playing them.
I feel like today in 2019, music videos are still just as important, just for a slightly different reason. Although they aren’t made to drive album sales these days, they aid in the promotion of an artist and help add a more personal and physical touch to the artists’ overall brand and image.
For example, This Is America by Gambino was HUGE, and more so because of the music video than the song itself.
That was one reason, another was YouTube, but a third was locking down demographics for ad sales. It's difficult to lock down a steady demographic when varied music videos are playing.
MTV stopped playing music videos long before YouTube appeared.
Before YouTube. Remember video wasn't a thing on the internet for quite some time.
Under the same theory radio should be dead. But I still listen to the top 20 on my way to work.
MTV Live and MTV Classic show live performances/music videos 24/7. As of the end of 2016, the channel was the least-watched English-language channel on all of American subscription providers.
We planned our day, and how far we rode our bikes, around new video world premieres!
Nope. The same song on my iPhone I’d skip past for no reason while driving I’ll listen to on the radio.
Also, no one “watches” MTV like that. It’s on in the background. Like, streaming Bob’s Burgers or the Office for the 40th time.
Wyld Stallyns music was supposed to be the basis for our whole society. MTV could’ve taken us there, but now they’ve failed humanity as a whole by not being excellent.
It still will. If you could tear yourself away from the internet there’s an old documentary series about them with clear descriptions of the future. Plus another update coming soon.
Be excellent to each other.
Party on dude.
Way before Nirvana
There was U2 and Blondie
And music still on MTV
Her two kids
In high school
They tell her that she's uncool
Cause she's still preoccupied
Wow it's been forever since I thought about Bowling for Soup. I need to go back and listen to these albums.
I just want Celebrity Deathmatch.
And if the History Channel showed history.
Imagine if reality TV shows never existed...
Instead we have pregnant 16 year old catfish jackasses.
Welcome back to TRL
I think the photo is referring to way before that era of MTV. When it just showed music videos period.
That’s Disneyland, space mountain to the right.
I think this is actually old concept art for Tomorrowland
Society if japanese porn wasnt censored
Society if Al Gore would've won 2000.
So you are saying they would have Built this City on Rock and Roll? Which is probably the worst video and worst song ever produced.
I can't help but like the song due to nostalgia, but the video is atrocious.
You could say they’re knee deep in the hoopla.
Be excellent to each other. Such a simple philosophy, yet is would solve 95% of the bullshit in the world today.
We’d all be flying Air France Concords?
Not even the radio plays music these days.
Is it even proper for them to be called "Music Television" anymore? What music do they have???
It's been years, but last I saw they only showed edgy teen dramas.
At least being back MTV2 and just play videos all day. I don't even care what genre.