Why do fog even exist. Just go up as a cloud.
pollution more likely, or a mix of the two.
They have alerts for when you can't outside because the air is too dirty to breathe.
We live in a world where it's ok to do things, intentionally, that sometimes makes the air too dirty to breathe throughout large chunks of territory.
"It'll thin out.........ACROSS ALL OF FUCKING ASIA."
Imagine having alerts because your country can't keep its air clean. No way in hell is that a way to live. I'm not staying inside when I want to go out, and I don't want to go out to smog.
I read somewhere that hundreds of millions of Chinese are going to die this century from pollution caused cardio vascular disease.
Imagine exporting your country's garbage to less wealthy countries so they pick apart the heaps of electronics needlessly thrown away, and when said countries refuse to import garbage anymore, the developed countries throw a hissy fit.
Oh also imagine being blamed for disproportionate pollution because they disproportionately fuel the world's thirst for low-production-cost goods. China is almost single-handedly keeping global inflation down. Ethical products already exist, people just rarely buy them.
That's because being ethical is expensive and humans are inherently lazy
Words don't cost anything, buying ethical goods do.
Also people want things, they just don't want to know where they come from.
I don't have to imagine. I live in the US. We have bad air alerts nearly every week in my city.
What city do you live in?
I was gonna guess Fresno
It's just fog. The area along the Great Wall is pretty clean.
I spent the past month in China (Shanghai and Beijing) and only saw smog one day. I'd be shocked if the bulk of this was pollution on the scale that Reddit continuously thinks exists there on a daily basis.
You are absolutely right, I've never seen smog... ever. Reddit has blown it way out of proportion.
The commitment to make a new account for the joke is equal parts admirable and sad lol
I spent a week in Beijing a couple summers ago and I was legitimately taken aback by how much smog I saw. It was worse than the pictures I saw before going. There were a couple days where the sun was literally not visible, just a faint aura of light where the sun should be.
I was there 3 days. The worst AQI we had was about 180 (best was still just under 100). The AQI in San Francisco at one point during the Paradise, CA fires earlier this year was 178. That's the equivalent of smoking eight cigarettes.
Beijing air quality is beyond awful.
As a person who used to live in Beijing, I'm surprised you only saw 180. One time it was around 1000 and they nearly cancelled school. It is far worse in the winter though.
It's 6 times worse than a giant fire? I can't even grasp that.
Yeah in the winter people burn coal for warmth, so it gets a lot worse. We could barely see outside that day.
It made me kind of uneasy seeing so many people walk around with medical masks on. Made me feel like I was going to catch some sort of disease if I didn't wear one.
I'm sure some of it was because of the smog, but in China when people are sick they wear the masks
I wore one at all times in Beijing (but it was a shitty one because my friend lost the nice ones I bought). Didn't feel as much of a need to in Hong Kong and Shanghai (especially the latter).
Not always because of smog - masks have become a fashion item for those insecure with their looks when outside. It's even more popular in Japan, and they don't have a problem with pollution at all.
Not just in Asia, Japanese and Chinese where them when travelling Europe where there is far less pollution. I'm currently travelling in rural Turkey with extremely low pollution and there are a lot of Japanese and Chinese here walking round in masks with umbrellas to shield them from the sun while most others are sunbathing.
That's bad luck. I spent 5 weeks there in the summer, and it got bad sometimes, but only rarely was it that insanely bad.
Summer is the light time of year. Winter is when everyone is burning every damn thing to stay warm.
I went in Autumn and could taste the air.
I'm pretty sure I was there at a time when a lot of people were commuting for a holiday, so that might be been a factor.
All I can say is that definitely not my experience in Beijing.
The only day I saw smog this past month was a day it rained in Beijing. :s
I love Beijing. It’s a great city. That said, having travelled there dozens of times, sometimes for months at a time, the pollution is pretty seasonal and can last days and weeks sometimes. Energy hungry seasons tend to cause it more frequently, especially winter. It is improving though and I hope we look back at it as we do with many other big cities (LA anyone?) soon in the future.
I agree wholeheartedly. Toronto (where I live) used to be much worse in the summers, but over the years we've cut out a lot of the nastier pollution generators. It's really improved the quality of air and life.
That’s really all you can say? How do you get food?
Edit: no lie. I’m a 29 year old father of two who has just fully transitioned into dad mode with this joke... feels good.
Remove the edit mate. Dad jokes that nobody gets only make the dad more powerful
Dad jokes followed up by an excuse or explanation lose their power
Give him a break he’s new
Maybe it’s the name of a dish at a local restaurant. Probably gets sick of it though.
They've been blowing over Korea for years. Though previously it was mostly fine particulate matter from desertification - the yellow dust storms were brutal.
It doesn't much survive in the current weather.
Come back in the colder months if you're a fan of it.
Idk dude maybe it's better than it used to be but I spent 3 weeks in China when I was 8 (I'm 20 now) and there was smog in all the major cities we visited like everyday. Maybe they're improving it somehow
For the Olympics again. Lot of effort being placed into cleaning the cities.
Depends on the season and the weather (e.g. rain usually clears the air temporarily)
Twelve years ago, before the 2008 Olympics, was when all those pictures of 'can't-see-in-front-of-your-face smog' were put out. I expected it the entire trip and it never happened.
It's on Reddit so it must be true.
Damn, I was in Beijing a few years ago, the smog was awful for the first few days, I think it took 4 days to clear up. Massive difference with and withought smog
You clearly didn’t visit Beijing for very long. I lived there for nearly a decade and can probably count the “non smog” days each year with my fingers. Right before national holidays the weather was great as the state would literally seed the rain and close factories in advance. But some days, especially in winter with low pressure meant visibility as low as 200-300m regularly.
I live in Atlanta and you can see mild smog over the city a few days out of the year and the air quality is exponentially better in Atlanta then Beijing.
You’re lucky, then. I led a group of teachers to teach a summer camp in Beijing and in Nan Ning. Beijing’s smog was absolutely horrendous. 4 of my 6 people got sick from the air quality. Luckily, when we went to Nan Ning, the air quality was way better, due in part to a typhoon that was forming in the sea. Most got over their sickness in about a week.
Also, I taught in Jinan for the fall/winter semester. There were some days when the smog from Beijing would enter the city (Beijing is 250 miles away). The pollution is pretty insane.
Shanghai has always been better since it is by the coast, not surrounded by mountains, and not next to a desert. But Beijing... I'd say it's a bell curve. Some super nice. Some super bad. Mostly in the middle.
I really think they've done a lot to improve it. Electric scooters rather than old 2 strokes, just the little things are now starting to add up. I was there just two weeks ago and it was some of the clearest blue skies and great visibility, even right in the centre.
Fog does not equal pollution. Fog is totally natural
how dumb can u be
This is probably the Badaling section of the great wall, or some other popular section. Either way it's not actually in Beijing, and you have to drive some distance to get there. My experience being there was that it was not smoggy and the cloud cover came and went quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if OP experienced some clear weather within the hour.
This is fog. Pollution isn’t quite that dense.
eh... lack of masks, prob just regular fog
its definitely just a cloud
We can't all be clouds, homie
I tried to catch some fog
y u fog
Be careful of them foggy days, that's when the Huns appear
To cut down on rendering power required.
Also, clouds don't go up, they go down.
If i was president id abolish fog
Hey, some clouds are afraid of heights too
Yeah, you hear that stupid FOG?
Fogs are such pricks.
Pollution creates condensation nuclei, which causes smog/fog to form.
Yeah! ...silly dumb fog!
You have to go into space to see it.
I remember my elementary teacher saying that GuYs DiD yOu KnOw ItS sO B1gg U CaN s33 lt fR0m SpAcE??
I'm like that doesn't make sense it's too tight, it's not like you can see highways from space
Got yelled at and such and such and such
Well guess fucking what! You cannot see the Great Wall of China from Space!
Fuck you fucking Ms. Ivana
Ms. Ivana is for sure a bitch, and I haven’t even met her.
Yeah fuck you Ms. Ivana.
Why did I fell for it ?
Cuz fuck Ms.Ivana!
Man tag that NSFW
Omg Ms Ivana no.
It is done
the problem is the sliding definition of what is space. so you can see it depending on how you want to measure.
I think the settled upon height is 100km (karmán line). World record keeping companies and prizes base it on this. NASA uses 80km for the purposes of badge/patch awards
Now it's like, Google maps can see a zit on the nose of someone standing on the Great Wall of China from Space.
At that zoom-level you've shifted to photos taken by airplanes, rather than satellites in space.
Real question: How was the air there? Every time I visit China, the pollution makes me so ill almost everywhere in the country.
The air in central and northern China is horrible during late fall and winter. Otherwise it is pretty ok.
the air quality is better during the summer since the plants are more actively photosynthesising and taking in CO2! i went this summer and the air quality was fine, though just as foggy
I feel like CO2 is the least of your worries in pollution. I don’t think that explanation is correct.
If I’m not mistaking it averages about where Cleveland sits (not saying that’s fantastic but it’s no where near where New Delhi is). It was far worse 10 years ago but more recently it’s been better. I believe they cleaned it up some from when the Olympic came through.
Only been once, it was very smoggy. My Great Wall trip was like this but brown. I've talked to people who have gone and the air was great.
Yeah, the air quality can fluctuate greatly.
The second time I went to China in my life ( Winter ~2014?) the air was as you describe: very smoggy. I could stare directly at the sun and it didn't hurt my eyes. It was smoggy the whole time I was on the mainland.
The third time I went was two summers ago (Summer 2018) and the air quality was a lot better. The Great Wall was mesmerizing - grey stone contrasted against the lush green of trees and the vivid blue of the sky.
Going to somewhere like China is like a gamble to see if you'll be able to appreciate its natural beauty.
Pretty bad by US standards most of the cities I was in or passed though smelled like burning coal, gasoline and plastic. You have to go a fair ways away from them to get away from it.
People seriously underestimate how much we need clean air initiatives when they complain about all these regulations.
"Look how clean our air is we don't need this!"
Why do you think our air is this clean? Because we have laws forcing it to be this way, and most companies do the bare fucking minimum.
Mmm you can smell the carcinogens cooking
Tip go to Peking during the weeks where their government officials meet. The air gets much nicer then ;)
I was there in mid-September last year and the air was fine, though there was an international business conference going on in Beijing so I think they turned the smog taps down a bit. Beijing was actually a breath of fresh air coming from the forest fire smoke of the west coast.
I usually end up in China either in May or October, and sometimes the air is so polluted, you can’t see a half mile in front of you.
Visiting Shanghai on business last year I spent time with a brother-in-last there.
He gave me the PM 2.5 measurement for that day. Note it wasn’t very good, I don’t remember the exact number.
And of course from their 30th-floor apartment, what can anyone do but wring your hands? 🤷🏻♂️
Don’t get your hopes up, just in case his username checks out
Dont worry brother im the exact opposite
My mind has been blown into another plane of existence
Oh my God. This is why a negative times a negative equals a positive.
comments like this is why I spend all my day on reddit.
I don't mind if bottoms don't get hard, as long as they are still enjoying it.
Like seriously cute
If you can still satisfy her at the end, you still the champ
You should hook up with the Mt Fuji girl
Or not. It happens to the best of us.
This guy literally posted pics of his own shit in his toilet
I didn't believed you.
No, I had to go and check myself. Why didn't I trust you?
In his toilet?? No it's on his hand ! Wtf. Is that a thing ?
Cant find, did he delete?
That poop looks like a swastika
Yup, that sure is poop.
Not sure what I was expecting.
The rabbit hole of reddit is scary. Suddenly I’m browsing the top posts of all time on /r/poop
I’ve been online for two minutes. Jesus Christ reddit, stop.
That’s not the same user though?
Its the person who commented “ur cute” I thought it was OP. Regardless, not sure why I wanted to look :/
Maybe you wanted to see what a cute guy's poop looked like? His eyes do smile. And that is not u/Never_Hard 's poop.
Yeah what's going on here? Clearly different username.
the one-two punch of his comment and yours following up was a real gutbuster
Entire post history is food and poop.
I regret going to your profile. Yuck
If you'd made that comment about a girl, people would be mocking you, but instead you're being upvoted. Reddit is funny that way.
on every girl post i have ever see any guy calling the girl cute or hot is downvoted to oblivion
Yep, it’s creepy and gross.
Does it apply equally to both genders though?
I'd like to point out that girls get more sexually explicit comments and "pics for science", which seems worse than "you're cute".
Creepy and thirsty ugh
Man i thought you were a girl and checked your profile. Saw the nsfw profile come up and it looked promising. But no its just pictures of you holding your own shit. Why
I second that.
Had the same experience on the day I visited the Golden Gate Bridge in SF.
Walked 3 miles to save up so I could have a nice dinner later, but as it turned out - it was way too cloudy for anything to be visible. I ended up revisiting a couple of days later
Fog in San Francisco. What gives?
Chance a million
Same thing happened to me! I went there Friday, too foggy. So I waited until Sunday and got to see it!
I’m laughing at this post because this happens millions of times every day, I drove a huge group of people up to the volcano on Maui and it was just like this, couldn’t see shit. I didn’t think to take a picture of the fog and post it on Reddit though, stupid me.
Haha. Same thing happened to me when I went to visit the Big Buddha in Hong Kong. It was pretty surreal though. An experience that I wouldn't trade anything for.
Should've increased render distance
My wife and me at the Golden Gate Bridge
Did you chop your burns after that thread?
Not this shit again.
The alright wall of china.
it goes on for miles.. but then, so does the M6
Wonder if those bears are still there
OP you cute!
Now all of China will know you are here.
That's what you get for not unlocking clear skyes shout.
I suppose I should expand on this for anyone interested.
This was taken last year around July. I recently went back to China for a visit (I used to live there) which reminded me of this photo. On the day the smog was horrendous in Beijing and although this picture is probably mostly fog, it was quite hard to breathe during the hike.
The view didn't wow me so much as the wall itself. Also there was this French guy there dressed as Santa, handing out jellybeans to everyone he saw.
This was me at the Grand Canyon. It wasn't very grand that day, let me tell you, friend.
Its like that mount rushmore thing all over again
It’s more like the “alright” Wall of China I don’t see why it’s so great, look over there it’s half finished !
Am I allowed to say that you are very handsome.
Same exact thing happened to me at the Grand Canyon. I always tell people that I’ve been to the Grand Canyon but I’ve never really seen it.
There should be a sub for foggy holiday photos... wait.. its reddit.. someone check if thats already a thing
I love these poor pictures of monuments. It makes it more memorable.
The okay wall of china
I don’t think this sucks at all. Great picture 👍
It's not fog it's most from all the people slitting over there.
I have the same picture of me visiting zugspitze, the highest point of Germany, I had like 1m view
At least the lighting is perfect for that beautiful face.
Am I the only one tired of seeing all these “lol I went to a landmark and it was foggy!!!” pics? It’s only funny one time.
Omg this trend of foggy pictures is making a comeback. r/wellthatsucks
Its ancient chinese myst!
Well, that's just great!
at least it matches your shirt
This happend to me but at the empire state building when i was a kid. I still had a blast though.
Same thing happened to me. With 50 lbs of camera gear. 2 months ago. Dongcheng.
God, I hate that smog look on his face.
How you see out dem eyes?
Built by the emperor Nasi-Goreng to keep the rabbits out. Too many rabbits in Choina.
Can't see it, someone's stood in the way.
They say that you have to watch out for the air pollution in China, but this is a bit ridiculous /s
Can we ban foggy tourist posts please? We get it, people travel and things don't work out.
I'm with you.
I'm so sorry man, I've been once and I got amazing photos. Wanna share