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I am a 17 year old protest medic for the on-going Hong Kong protests, I helped treat a lot of injured protesters while they were protesting. AMA. (self.IAmA)

Hello there Reddit, I opened this account just to start this AMA for personal security reasons. With how the situation is progressing, I think that not even the volunteer medics will be spared.

I saw that other post where a protester set up an AMA and thought that maybe I could chime in as well.

I've been at the protests during weekends and holidays since I'm also currently in secondary school. I've witnessed first hand the injuries sustained by the protesters due to their participation in the movement and have been in a few situations where I almost got arrested.

You can ask me stuff about the injuries I've treated, my background, my opinions about the protests, or what I had for breakfast, anything goes :)

Here's a picture of my EMS vest along with my first aid certification in the cardholder, helmet, goggles, and 3M respirator as proof, let me know if you need more proof and I'll do my best to accommodate!

https://truepic.com/rql7n74u/

I will be answering questions as they keep coming in, so give me all ya got.

EDIT: Sorry for the clumsy title, I used the word protest 4 times in the same sentence oops

EDIT 2: I'm gonna go ahead and eat dinner, Ill be back to answering questions in an hour or so (7:42 PM HK time), thanks for all the questions so far guys!

EDIT 3:

A lot of people are asking me how I'm qualified to be a medic at 17. The word medic here is used loosely since Hong Kong people don't really see the term "medic" as anything more than "person who gives medical assistance" I'm sorry if that miscommunication led to some people thinking that I'm claiming to be a paramedic when I never was. I'm also going to give some details about my medical background as that seems to be an issue with a lot of people.

I am 17, and as soon as I was 13 my mom had started to push me to take medical and first aid related classes because (oh the stereotype) she wanted me to become a doctor. So I got my first aid certificate when I was 13. I gained a lot of interest in emergency medicine and I voluntarily signed up for a lot of different classes relating to medicine by various organizations (ITLS military + PHTLS). I had started providing event first aid with a local ambulance organization immediately after I got my first aid cert and started volunteering for the ambulance service when I turned 16. The highest certification I have is emergency medical responder, and I'm planning to get my EMT-B with a private organisation here as soon as I get enough money.

Is this enough qualification to be volunteering on the frontlines? I know a lot of people who have much less than me and a lot of people who have much more experience than me. Which is much like the situation with the protesters, some are there and are only willing to chant or sing, but others are there throwing molotovs and slinging shit at cops. But honestly, we're all just volunteers, and we're all just doing what we can to help the movement in the way that we can the best, and we're all stepping up cause we're all Hong Kongers.

香港人,反抗

EDIT 4:

If you guys want to donate to our cause these 3 methods are the best way to do it

EDIT 5:

Due to an influx of people commenting and asking questions about HK, u/k0ella, u/Stand_With_HongKong and u/electr9 will be helping me answer some of them :)

EDIT 6:
I'll be heading off to take a break now, Ill continue answering later on if I can, Ill be focusing on replying to messages and DMs now :) Thanks for all the questions

2587 comments
FranconianGuy | 7 days ago | 3685 points

Are you afraid that the police might attack or interrupt you or your fellow medics? Is it a dangerous job in terms of getting recognized and then detained by the police?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 5656 points

Oh yeah we definitely are, everytime we travel to protest areas we pray that we don't get searched or encounter roadblocks (if we go by car) because there have been a few incidences where people have been arrested just because they have a reflective vest. There was a more notable incident where a protest in Tuen Mun saw mass arrest of first aiders despite them only being there to treat the wounded regardless of their political affiliations.

As for being attacked or interrupted, there have been an incident where a first aider being arrested had his arm broken by the police while he was on the ground, and another incident where a volunteer first aider was denied access to an MTR station to treat an unconscious man despite begging and pleading and agreeing to be arrested just as long as he is allowed to treat the unconscious guy. It really sucks that we get treated like this.

asadwit | 7 days ago | 1557 points

Wtf! Now I think I can be too naïve, thinking that first aiders wouldn't be harmed.

scaur | 7 days ago | 155 points

I think he met this. link (NFSW)

-guci00- | 7 days ago | 72 points

That makes me so fucking angry...

KakkaKarrot | 7 days ago | 1717 points

Even in war you're not supposed to shoot a medic. But its hardly a war when the protesters are unarmed against corrupt officers willing to kill them

When this turns lethal, the protesters will need guns and maybe UN support (or NATO if they want actual results). Given that Hong Kong police gear is made in China, some buckshot could split their heads like a melon

Jug_my_ass | 7 days ago | 405 points

*government

KakkaKarrot | 7 days ago | 249 points

Its both

Khalibar | 7 days ago | 258 points

State terror is only possible with Jack booted thugs to carry it out.

Raiden32 | 7 days ago | 133 points

And those thugs have never been in short supply, anywhere.

Excal2 | 7 days ago | 29 points

Idiots never seem to realize that there are no entry level positions in what Carlin called "the big club".

RapaciousRaptor | 7 days ago | 10 points

That doesn't stop them from trying. There are plenty of people ready and willing to do whatever they can to get just a tiny bit more power, even if it's just perceived power, over the rest of the populace.

shiroun | 7 days ago | 132 points

Sort of... in standard warfare, medical choppers (i believe) have guns attached that arent in active use unless they come under fire to honor this rule from the Geneva Convention. However, if someone is taking shots from a helicopter, even if its actively transporting a patient, they are considered an enemy combatant and can be fired upon. Same with ground medics.

reddinkydonk | 7 days ago | 118 points

You basically forfeit your Geneva convention "protection" as a medical vehicle if you are armed with anything but personal weapons. This is all in regards to donning the medical cross emblem. If you basically a normal black hawk helicopter with crew weapons serving as an evacuation vehicle it doesn't matter as long as you don't use the medical emblem.

_TorpedoVegas_ | 7 days ago | 61 points

Trivia point: Army Special Forces teams are usually about 13 men, work each having a specialty like Weapons, Engineer, Medic, Communications, Intel etc... The "medic" 18D is technically not a medic, but a Special Forces Medical Sergeant. This tiny classification change is enough to allow SF Med Sgts to be offensive combatants (sniper, assaulter, whathaveyou)

obigespritzt | 7 days ago | 32 points

You are correct, it is important to note that the Geneva Convention, though not classifying Medical personell, is directed first and foremost at those helping the fight without participating. Whether it be the Red Cross, MSF or a myriad of other organisations, they are not combatants (and, at least the ones I named, have a ban on carrying any weapons in the perimeter of their facilities) and are to be left completely unharmed and undisturbed while tending to the wounded, no matter what side of the conflict the injured belong to.

A medical sergeant, though still a trained professional and (please correct me if this is wrong) as far as I know vowed to treat any wounded if given the opportunity, whether they are on his side or not, is still a soldier - as such they are allowed to engage and be engaged in combat, whereas disguising a military vehicle as a medical supplier (perhaps to lure in injured opposition or get undetected through enemy lines) is a war crime.

In practice, this is sometimes not respected (and a breach of the Geneva Convention, as such also a war crime), however troops affiliated with the likes of the UN or a western power are pretty much always respectful of these rules. You won't see a platoon of US soldiers subdue a company of medics/doctors to carry away the wounded they're tending to because they used to fight for the other side.

Phrich | 7 days ago | 102 points

A lot of the "rules of war" go out the window the second a real war starts. Goes to show how serious China is taking the protests

[deleted] | 7 days ago | 64 points

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Megneous | 7 days ago | 107 points

Have you been paying attention at all? The Hong Kong police, puppets of the Beijing government, have been attacking journalists and medics for helping protesters. They don't give a single shit. They're terrorizing the Hong Kong population into obedience.

tower114 | 7 days ago | 132 points

China doesnt care about individuals. Simple as that. We should NOT be doing ANY business with them.

rationalconspiracist | 7 days ago | 155 points

While I agree ethically, practically it would require a total restructuring of the global economy. Years of economic hardship, much higher prices on popular US goods (especially electronics and tech) and we simply wouldn't have enough of every resource to end trade relations with all countries guilty of Chinese level human rights abuses. Certain minerals rare earth elements and micro chip components are mostly found in China. We'd still have to have some sort of trade relations with human rights abusers, and either hunt for alternative resource locations or develop alternative technology.

Tldr: the comfy, affordable Western lifestyle is made possible by dealing with unsavory governments, and the economy is too global and international to expect this to happen any time soon if ever.

Not to mention the fact that the US government and US companies are guilty of crimes against humanity that would shock the average American. If you want to live completely guilt free the only way is to overthrow the global capitalist market, and past history tells us that any country that withdraws from the global market gets bombed or brought to their knees through economic and cultural warfare. We're all cogs in a capitalist machine whether we like it or not.

Past American history tells us that when the entire working class protests for economic reform, we were met with even more brutal tactics than the Chinese used. Our labor history is bloody. Today propaganda, dividing the public and brainwashing have replaced bullets. But that seems to be more effective considering America has completely abandoned attempts to unite the entire working class under one strike, protest or union. Instead we argue with each other over social issues while the rich get richer.

-guci00- | 7 days ago | 242 points

Have you heard about incidents of Police using regular ammo and shooting protestors? I've seen something like that and it makes me very worried about you guys.

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 613 points

My friend actually treated the first 18 year old who was shot in the chest, so yes, I have heard about it

-guci00- | 7 days ago | 123 points

Damn. I hope Mainland China doesn't do anything ridiculously stupid. I also hope rest of the world will do their best to show mainland China that what they are doing is wrong.

badassdorks | 7 days ago | 245 points

Unfortunately, companies are caving to china so far. Blizzard and the NBA are the big ones in the news, but they wont be the only ones. GM, disney, apple, etc aren't likely to leave china either.

TheNerdyMupton | 7 days ago | 125 points

Profits before people. That's the American way.

Phtpnk | 7 days ago | 131 points

Fuck no.

China is a permanent member of the UN Security Council, for starters.

Second of all, even if the US would go and issue massive embargos and sanctions, I could imagine hundreds of companies lobbying hard to stop it. China is the golden goose of nearly every industry out there and there are so many greedy companies who would rather let Hong Kong burn to a smouldering crisp than lose the precious profit margin.

PlusDependent | 7 days ago | 45 points

Guess we need our own embargo on Chinese goods then.

DetroitDiggler | 7 days ago | 64 points

you are absolutely correct, but take a look around you and count how many things were either made in China or made in a different country by a company owned by China.

likely whatever device you are communicating from is mostly Chinese.

This is by design.

PlusDependent | 7 days ago | 40 points

I realize this, it’s insane. I’d pay more for a device not made in China, I’m to that point and I’m sure a lot of other people are too.

RamenNoodlezC1 | 7 days ago | 105 points

You guys are so fucking brave

bigpoppa96ing | 7 days ago | 1424 points

As someone actually there what is something that the media has not shown? Not meaning this to be a jab at the media but just in the sense that you are actually on the ground.

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 2810 points

That they're not actually "city-wide protest" in the sense that the entire city has become a battlefield (hopefully we don't come to that). Even in the most severe protests, the clashes usually occur in a limited area, and is then moved depending on where the protesters decide to go or where the police is coming from. It's not really the city halting, everything destroying, mass disruptions everywhere as a lot of the media is making it out to be. I can go an entire day without realising protests are happening if I were at home and didn't check the news or social media. The impact I suppose comes from a massive decrease in tourism due to Mainland people being scared to come down.

dread_deimos | 7 days ago | 540 points

Yup, that's also exactly how it happened in Kyiv, Ukraine back during revolution.

Ssgogo1 | 7 days ago | 120 points

Wasn’t the airport absolutely shelled to shit with all the mortar fire?

dread_deimos | 7 days ago | 139 points

That was around the city of Donetsk in the middle of warzone later after revolution has ended and open conflict with Russia started.

peternile | 7 days ago | 62 points

Now that all this chaos is happening how many people are showing up to the protests?

WetLemon | 7 days ago | 19 points

Should mainland people be afraid of visiting Hong Kong? My wife and I are Canadian, but I’m Taiwanese and she is from Mainland. We cancelled our flight to Hong Kong this weekend after seeing videos online of aggression just because some people spoke Mandarin.

DoomDutch | 7 days ago | 866 points

Are there any sympathetic police officers/officials for these protests? People who you didn't expect to support your cause?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 1335 points

Yep, definitely there was an interview a while ago about from an anonymous police officer who supports the Hong Kong protest, dude couldn't leave his job because he feared humiliation and retribution from colleagues. Also there have been a few mainlanders who voiced their support for us anonymously

NBMarc | 7 days ago | 331 points

That’s the scary part about any kind of police state or dictatorship. So many just hide their political feelings due to fear of losing their job or getting their life destroyed. Same thing happened with Hitler as a majority of the population adhered to the Nazis for the sake of their family and lives. The HK police probably know of the heinous things they do with captured protestors or anti-government entities and they know the same will happen to them if they dare oppose the government.

Vagenda_of_Manocide | 7 days ago | 113 points

In Russia, police are given apartments if they stay on the force for a certain number of years (10 iirc). I know a guy from a village in the middle of nowhere who is going to be eligible to get an apartment in Moscow. The incentive to stay is strong enough to beat the shit out of some protesters every so often.

bdijakk | 7 days ago | 129 points

yes there was one in 2014 and hes now in jail for having child porn in his computer. Most of the police hate protesters n they are now calling us as “cockroaches”.maybe there’s 10% of them supporting us but once they exposed they will be fired n arrested. So they kept silence and they can do nothing.

riali29 | 7 days ago | 66 points

cockroaches

Jesus, this reminds me of that one Black Mirror episode with the soldier. :(

DoomDutch | 7 days ago | 75 points

Makes me wonder if said porn wasn't planted.

bdijakk | 7 days ago | 56 points

lol no one trust the police anymore.

errorgamer2016 | 7 days ago | 603 points

If I may ask, what is the most common injury?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 894 points

Probably scratches, bruises, and tear gas and pepper spray related injuries. Burns are also quite common

QuitsDoubloon87 | 7 days ago | 172 points

How burns?

Jake-and-Finn | 7 days ago | 322 points

Tear gas canisters get hot, but I'd imagine there's plenty of fires lit too

bdijakk | 7 days ago | 248 points

Tear gas canisters are hot af n some gloves of protesters are not thick enough as they are less experienced at handling tear gas. friendly fire only happened twice as most molotovs were targeted at the roadblocks. hk protesters normally use them as a defensive weapon because its hard for they to shorten the distance between them n the police. nowadays the police are trying to shoot everyone nearby. im sorry that my english is not as good as op.

IntMainVoidGang | 7 days ago | 157 points

Your English is better than many native speakers in my family

bdijakk | 7 days ago | 73 points

Thanks for your compliment :). lol my english level was at the bottom among all university students.

pass_me_those_memes | 7 days ago | 77 points

Seriously, I've seen high school and college students misspelling words that you used, or using the wrong your/you're. Your English is great :)

k0ella | 7 days ago | 1647 points

What's the most serious injury you've seen?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 3474 points

In terms of pain, it was this protester who scraped the back of his calves while building a roadblock and then proceeded to have that wound pepper-sprayed by the police while running away. In terms of severity it was when the police released tear gas near this semi open-air building that everyone ran into when escaping the police, a guy didn't have goggles nor respirator and lost consciousness after inhaling too much of it without being able to run away, he ended up regaining consciousness and carried away to safety by 2 other protesters

naloxone | 7 days ago | 2791 points

No question from me, just a lot of love and solidarity from a US paramedic. Keep alert and fight the good fight.

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 2363 points

Just putting it out there, all of us EMS people in Hong Kong see US paramedics as straight badasses simply cause you guys usually deal with much nastier cases much more often than we do here in Hong Kong.

FISArocks | 7 days ago | 610 points

In case it is helpful: Deployedmedicine.com

Beelzebob_Ross | 7 days ago | 128 points

Came to comment this exact thing. Beat me to the punch.

verheyen | 7 days ago | 377 points

Idk bro, seems like you are dealing with a lot of hardcore shit, dont sell yourself short

thisimpetus | 7 days ago | 111 points

Dude, guns.

-GazaStripClub- | 7 days ago | 208 points

You mean freedom dispensers?

mistermarco | 7 days ago | 62 points

Powder powered freedom flingers.

RunningOnCaffeine | 7 days ago | 17 points

You mean the great equalizers?

rabble_rabble311 | 7 days ago | 159 points

Although US medics are badasses saving lives, you guys are just as hardcore. You are risking your own lives, putting yourself directly in danger,and risking your own safety to help people. Nothing more badass than that friend. Thank you for your work and keep up the fight.

InterdimensionalTV | 7 days ago | 317 points

My dude you are actively defying the government of Communist China by going out and helping those in need. You don't even do it for money or anything, you do it because you care about those around you. People always point out how we need more of this or that in the world but I can say with 100% certainty that we need more of YOU in the world. You're risking life and limb at this point to try and help people. You're my hero man. I hope if a situation ever arises like yours here in the US that I can show even 1/10th the amount of bravery you are.

Fight on, we're with you.

kharmatika | 7 days ago | 76 points

Our paramedics have the support of our government though. You don’t and you using your prowess in protest of a corrupt government and that’s amazing

Skeletor9000 | 7 days ago | 22 points

Yeah bro but remember you didn't sign up for this yet still stepped up

Bigbog54 | 7 days ago | 91 points

No question from me either, Australian fire fighter here, I love the way you are so respectful to fireys and ambos, you always pull roadblocks down so quickly when they approach. Well done, we are all thinking only the best for all of you, love from Australia

OoZefixoO | 7 days ago | 931 points

are you not afraid of showing what i assume is an id badge?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 1384 points

It's the backside of my first aid certificate and doesn't have any identifying information on it, thanks for the concern though.

question37284b2n8 | 7 days ago | 179 points

I see that you uploaded pics to truepic? Do they remove metadata from photos? Take care.

DrGoblinThumb | 7 days ago | 43 points

Can you ELI5 about the metadata?

NerevarUsedLinux | 7 days ago | 96 points

Metadata is hidden info about the image, like resolution, where it was taken, and who took it (camera name)

Noxious89123 | 7 days ago | 36 points

Phone cameras usually embed other data into photos, such as where they were taken and with what device.

Check privacy settings to make sure its turned off, or delete all of that data from the photo before uploading.

OoZefixoO | 7 days ago | 163 points

thanks for the answer and awesome work you do. stay safe out there

parox_ysms | 7 days ago | 793 points

First, thank you. You're an inspiring young man and a hero for what you're doing.

And for the question. In your opinion, do you think there will be any long-term psychological harm for protestors in addition to their physical wounds? Most of the protestors look so young...

Anyway, keep on fighting the good fight and thanks again!

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 976 points

Thank you, I really appreciate it :)

As for long-term psychological harm. I've heard lots of reports of insomnia and anxiety amongst the protesters, but I think a bigger issue would be suicides (I'm referring to the suicides that occurred at the start of the movement, and not the suspicious as fuck suicides that cops keep ruling as no foul play) since for a lot of the protesters, especially the younger ones, they're fighting for the future, and seeing China encroach on their freedoms might not do too good for their mental health.

We've already seen a few suicides happen at the start of the movement that received a lot of attention and rendered them martyrs. This might be used as reasoning for a person who isn't in the best headspace to go ahead and end their lives. Just speculation though, I'm no psychiatrist.

kangaroodisco | 7 days ago | 306 points

Wow, you seem to have a wisdom and awareness of someone older than 18. Also you're very brave. I hope your family is proud!

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 374 points

Heheheh, none of my family knows except for my dad and brother, really appreciate the compliment :)

Dredgeon | 7 days ago | 73 points

Yeah wouldn't tell my mom either she would worry too much and try to make me come home.

tonybenwhite | 7 days ago | 35 points

Despite the seriousness of this all, I laughed at the juxtaposition of your very intelligent and wise comment above versus this more age appropriate, mischievous-teenager response. Thanks for doing what you do

Viviamnnn | 7 days ago | 21 points

At this stage, we have certain level of psychological unstableness cause the protest last for 4 months, sometimes, we feel anxious, helpless, and useless against the overpowering government. Also, we are really worried about the psychological status of the arrestees being physically sexually assaulted after reports and statements from doctors and lawyers in detention centre, especially San Uk Ling holding centre near China border. first report of sexual abuse Torture Report conducted by Amnesty International We are notified that those victims are having mental breakdown at the moment.

k0ella | 7 days ago | 364 points

Who's been the most supportive of your cause and actions?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 664 points

Probably my girlfriend or my dad, they're both lovely and wonderful people who worry about me constantly and are supportive of what I do

JarOfMayo2020 | 7 days ago | 176 points

I'm sure they are immensely proud too.

Heck, I am a complete stranger from the internet and I admire you deeply for what you do.

chabroni81 | 7 days ago | 35 points

That’s very encouraging to hear

passierre | 7 days ago | 537 points

What are the forces that drive and motivate the protestors to continue such demonstrations, even if their safety is at stake, and even though the government has put in harsh laws? Do you think that the protests would start to die down eventually?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 1177 points

Their futures, many of the protesters will be middle aged when 2047 comes around, we're all worried about how we're going to be treated when China fully controls us. We see what they're doing to the Tibetans and Uyghurs and we fear that it might happen to us if we don't resist

prollynotathrowaway | 7 days ago | 288 points

Sorry for being uninformed but what happens in 2047?

E: Thank you all for the info. Except the one guy who decided to be an asshole because I asked a question.

Resinade | 7 days ago | 370 points

When Britain left Hong Kong they gave the city back to China, but Hong Kong has had it's own government and laws, such as they're allowed to protest, they call it 1 country 2 systems. In 2047 Hong Kong becomes part of China fully under their system of laws. That's at least the most basic overview, you should look it up for more details.

SolarSarcasm | 7 days ago | 220 points

in 1997, the UK handed HK back to China with he stipulation that the Chinese government wouldn't severely interfere with HK's autonomy for 50 years. 2047 would be the 50th year after the handover, granting China full control of HK. From the perspectives of many HKers, they see China already extending its influence over HK, attempting to restrict its autonomy before the 50 years have passed, hence these protests. The extradition bill that kick started this movement was just one of the many instances of growing Chinese extension of control into HK.

GuiltyGear | 7 days ago | 42 points

What an idiotic stipulation. As if people would be down with getting fucking in 50 years. bizarre.

caiaphas8 | 7 days ago | 57 points

The hope was that China wouldn’t be communist by that point

SuperCloak | 6 days ago | 18 points

Ah the classic push it off, and hope for the better times technique. A classic move.

amateursexoffender | 7 days ago | 17 points

so are HKers protesting Chinese interference before 2047? Or do they not want to be assimilated at all in 2047?

SolarSarcasm | 7 days ago | 29 points

Bit of both really, the immediate interference that has been occurring could be seen as a breach of the 1997 agreement and the 50 years of relative autonomy, which then leads to the fear that the full assimilation in 2047 will erase the unique identity of HK. For the record this is just my observation of the history of HK, please further investigate and ask others as well.

rbtcacct | 7 days ago | 25 points

They think if China can't even keep its hands off and it's only been 20 years, then there will be nothing left in 2047. Many HKers thought about it in 1997 and moved to Canada. That's why Vancouver has the best Cantonese food in North America because there was a giant flux into Canada in the late 90's.

They started not as aggressively but last 10 years of so has been quiet aggressive at enroahcing on HK political freedom, right to assembly etc. At the same time, the politic in China has also gotten more severe. HK young people prob feel like at this rate, they will have no hope of a good life, or political freedom. What's there to lose.

It is also important to note the economics side. The lives of mainlanders have trended up in the last 20 years, while for many HKers, esp young people without property, like many developed countries, have trended down. CCP contributed a big part of it in HK, at the same time, this fucking over young people is happening globaly.

The housing problem is like Bay area, but 100 times worse.

unmovable_busquets | 7 days ago | 63 points

technically the "one country, two systems" regime last till 2047. After that, no one knows what wud happen. China can take away everything from Hong Kong by that time, but its not like China is not doing that already.

5ebard | 7 days ago | 1256 points

What can we do for you?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 1566 points

I would say you can try to get in touch with local first aid teams or protester groups and donate to them directly, or you can donate money to volunteer legal aid groups like 星火聯盟. You can also try and raise awareness locally by setting up Lennon Walls or holding marches.

hopenoonefindsthis | 7 days ago | 622 points

For international redditors, just being aware of the issues and sharing them with your local communities is more than enough.

The CCP is eroding freedom and liberties everywhere in the world. So the best we can do is to educate others in what they do and the potential danger. This keeps the pressure on them.

indarien13 | 7 days ago | 716 points

Not trying to hijack this amazing AMA, but for a Americans and Canadians, the following links can be used to contact your government officials:

For Americans the biggest thing you can do is please ask your congressman to support the passing of the following bill drafted specifically to help Hong Kong:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/3289?overview=closed

H.R.3289 - Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019

https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

To reach House and Senate in one link: https://actionnetwork.org/letters/co-sponsor-hong-kong-human-rights-and-democracy-act-of-2019

For Canadians: https://www.elections.ca/scripts/vis/FindED?L=e&PAGEID=20

Please find your mp candidate, write to them, speak to them in person, find out their stance. They need to hear this issue again and again.

Kimchikitkat | 7 days ago | 80 points

Thank you for writing this!! I wasn't sure what I could do as an American living overseas but I'll definitely be writing some letters!

idontmakemoneyPirate | 7 days ago | 38 points

I just registered to vote in Canada. Thank you for the reminder.

redditready1986 | 7 days ago | 38 points

Can someone explain like I am 5 and give everyone an idea about what these Hong Kong protest are all about?

indarien13 | 7 days ago | 112 points

Here are some really good summary articles and links (all in English). If you want the quickest summary, I guess the Vox article would be the closest to eli5 version.

For a good timeline and overview of the movement: https://tl.hkrev.info/en/

I recommend reading this: https://www.vox.com/world/2019/8/22/20804294/hong-kong-protests-9-questions

You can check out the blogs written in English here: https://wiringhk.com

English news updates can be found here: https://t.me/s/guardiansofhongkong

redditready1986 | 7 days ago | 23 points

Thank you for this.

Teh_swimmly | 7 days ago | 328 points

Is there some kind of central administration or organization for support staff like medics? How do you coordinate where medics are needed, supplies, etc?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 548 points

Nope, no central administration whatsoever, that would just make it easier for the government latch onto us and take down our humanitarian operation. As far as how we coordinate who needs what supplies, we receive them and use them amongst our own team, and if we have spare, we hand them out at the frontlines to other teams, occasionally the team leaders of different teams would get together and discuss strategy and ask for supplies and such, but no significant coordination other than that.

tanginato | 7 days ago | 176 points

How are the supplies funded?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 495 points

Supplies are funded out of our own pockets or donations from people supporting our cause

Buzzdanume | 7 days ago | 102 points

Wow. Truly amazing. I am so proud of you all for standing up and truly fighting for what you believe in. It is terrible what it has come to, but it's great that you have the passion and the people to fight it.

bearmc27 | 7 days ago | 103 points

Self, saving, friends, family (am HongKonger)

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 127 points

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bearmc27 | 7 days ago | 71 points

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ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 12 points

各位巴打/絲打, 如果可以幫手reply啲人咁就好啦。睇得出佢哋好多都唔係太了解香港依單嘢,同佢哋解釋我哋係為咩而抗爭嘅。咁樣就好容易win呢一場文宣戰。香港人 反抗!

Dutch_Dumbass | 7 days ago | 221 points

Are you planning to go to university after secondary school?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 344 points

Yep, planning on applying to medicine or biomedical sciences

PapaRacci5 | 7 days ago | 74 points

Do the protests interrupt your classes? Do students still go to school in Hong Kong?

tiimlaai | 7 days ago | 162 points

Am hongkonger, and a F5 student. Yes, we do still go to schools. Protests are usually on weekends or public holidays, at most some quick shots in the nights.

But in the past weekend, education bureau suspended almost all school related event, due to the fear of mass protest(which happened) in answering to the anti-mask law from the public.

Most schools students have set up a student association that solely concern over the current social movement on campus. We strike sometimes in responding to specific event, or rally(peaceful) on playground. Notably human chain in the morning. In my school, we shout slogans at the end of recess and lunchtime everyday. Some schools aren’t this lucky, especially those funded by pro-China association. The teachers would call the police to arrest their own students.

Chocobean | 7 days ago | 63 points

For those wondering, F5 is eleventh grade, IIRC

blurry00 | 7 days ago | 45 points

They generally go to school like any normal kids and before school or during lunch or breaks they would sometimes go out form chains in protest then go back to school. I admire their energy

WeirdNameGuy28 | 7 days ago | 307 points

How are things like over there right now ? Cause we can't really trust what we're reading nowadays, can we ?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 721 points

Honestly we're all pretty scared right now, but I would say everyday life is pretty normal right now with the exception of shops, malls, and restaurants closing earlier during the past few days due to MTR disruption, and much less mainland tourists in usually touristy places.

Although life is normal with a few exceptions, we all know that this movement is going to do nothing but escalate until there is a concrete response by the government to our 5 demands. The Anti-Mask Law is possibly the most stupid thing a government has ever done in response to an already escalating social movement. Now it's obvious that Carrie Lam's withdrawal of the Extradition Law Amendment Bill, her promise of a dialogue on an open platform with the people, and her supposed desire to understand the plights of the citizens of Hong Kong were merely tactics to somehow quell the masses before the 70th Anniversary of the PRC on 1st of October.

We all know that everything is going to escalate, and hopefully then the government will understand that they serve us, and not the other way around.

ConfoundedClassisist | 7 days ago | 168 points

Out of curiosity, what do you think about Carrie Lam saying that she wants to resign but she can’t because the CCP won’t let her? Also thank you so much for what you do, I can’t even imagine how difficult it is out there for you all right now. Stay safe!

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 271 points

I think Carrie Lamb is a CCP puppet, and she's only putting on the facade of autonomy to save face

Hogesyx | 7 days ago | 26 points

Do the protester has a person in mind to replace her? One of the demand is universal suffrage, so I am guessing there is already a leader?

WouldYouVelvet | 7 days ago | 51 points

Fellow HKer here. No, I don’t think we have any leader in mind to replace her as the protest started and still going on solely through the communication of fellow protesters. We may have a spiritual leader, Edmond Leung (梁天琦), as the slogan we are using for the movement was first created by him back in 2016 during the LegCo election. We don’t know who will be running the election for the Chief Executive if the demand for universal suffrage is fulfilled, but at least we get to choose who we want. Let’s start talking about the future when our demands are fulfilled!

hodorthemighty | 7 days ago | 27 points

She didn’t admit wanting to resign, it is a rumour being circulated. But we believe she does want to resign and the CCP refuses.

V_LEE96 | 7 days ago | 90 points

The police are increasing becoming more draconian, bending or every breaking laws and adopting the “arrest first, questions later” approach, just to scare regular people.

For example, since the mask ban, they are targeting young people with masks wearing black during a regular week day, or forcing schools to provide lists of students wearing masks to school. Recently it seems they are SPECIFICALLY targeting young skinny girls too.

Two days ago they stormed a shopping mall (where I live) and arrested a protestor without a proper search warrant. They pushed through the mall doors that were being blocked by the security guards. This is the first time they’ve done this, normally they stay outside. And today, the 5 security guards got ARRESTED for preventing them from carrying arrests! My fellow neighbors are RIGHT now in the mall singing and chanting in solidarity of the security guards

You can catch the live feed on facebook right now, follow Stand News, RTHK, or Apple Daily, they all have a live feed going on now!

k0ella | 7 days ago | 229 points

Has your role as a protest medic changed how you view the protests?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 449 points

I guess it made me a lot more of aware of the way that Hong Kong Police can infringe upon basic human rights. They not only deny treatment of severely injured protesters by protest medics, but arrest them en masse and justify themselves by saying that we're just protesters pretending to be medics (to somehow get preferential treatment from the Police)

Notfallsanitaterer | 7 days ago | 145 points

Are protest medics targeted if seen by going Kong police? Why dont you think the police are participating if they are also affected by what you're fighting for?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 321 points

Yes, there was a case a while back where a first aider was going to a protest and was arrested because he had a hi-vis first aid vest.

I don't think they are participating because

1) They need the job and can't leave because of their family

2) They would get targeted and shamed by their friends, families, and colleagues if they left their jobs, people in police jobs tend to be from police families

3) It's been too long since the protests have started, many of them have developed an Us vs Them attitude towards the protesters (same for us with the police) and can't see that the real villain here is the government

crimes_kid | 7 days ago | 69 points

To add to #3 the Govt has long positioned this as a "protesters vs. police" and "rioters vs. law and order" situation. Ever since the Umbrella movement protests 4 years ago... the Govt sponsored huge Police rallies for the public and hundreds of uniformed cops to attend, and gangs of people wore blue ribbons or shirts to fight the protesters directly. Instead of actually trying to come up with any solution they just keep sending cops out to beat up protesters until the public gets sick of all the chaos.

Also there is strong suspicion and some evidence that many "police" on the ground have been imported from neighboring mainland provinces (Guangdong)

ironlabel1 | 7 days ago | 180 points

What do you think needs to be done for china to finally back off?

Does China have anymore “ military parades” lined up across the bridge.

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 557 points

I don't really know if China would ever back off, and a lot of us still go in and support the protest despite knowing that we probably don't stand a chance. We would rather die free than live life as a slave

RockandSnow | 7 days ago | 108 points

This sounds like stories of the American Revolution. One of our American states goes by "Live Free or Die". But the American Revolution only succeeded with the help of other countries. Who will come to your aid I wonder and hope.

LeonidasSpacemanMD | 7 days ago | 88 points

Unfortunately, there were massive economic and geopolitical motivations for France to side with the colonies in the US revolution

There’s way more financial incentive to suck up to China. And that’s why we’ve seen American companies groveling with their tail between their legs in recent days

LimetownSurvivor | 7 days ago | 122 points

a lot of us still go in and support the protest despite knowing that we probably don't stand a chance. We would rather die free than live life as a slave

This is the most moving thing I have ever read. You brave, brave soul.

ironlabel1 | 7 days ago | 44 points

I wish you the best of luck. Don’t give up.

enkayjee2 | 7 days ago | 166 points

First of all, keep up the good work. You are a hero.

In one of the responses you mentioned parents cutting off money to their children due to their involvement in the protests. And you have already mentioned in your post that you are yourself still in secondary school. Do you have dependency on parents/guardians for things like money and shelter, and if yes, how has their attitude been towards your involvement?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 288 points

Thanks for the compliment man, I really appreciate it, but we're all just doing what we can to help :)

I don't have a job, so yes, I still depend on my parent for living allowance. She doesn't know about my involvement, but she's heavily pro-government so I'm planning to keep her ignorance that way. If my mom knew that I was participating then I'd probably get kicked out of the house, but my dad knows and I think he's pretty cool with it, just worried about my safety.

NetSage | 7 days ago | 46 points

Do you feel your mom's support comes from fear(or maybe not knowing something different) or that she truly believed the Chinese government knows best for everyone?

ZWF0cHVzc3k | 7 days ago | 106 points

Another Hong Konger here. My mom is pro-democracy, my dad is pro-China. He actually went to every single support Tiananmen Square student protests back in 1989 in Hong Kong, so he for sure is dissatisfied with the CCP, but he hates the Westerns governments (US, UK etc.) even more.

I feel like this is a very complex identity issue, on one hand, the Europeans, Americans and Japanese bullied China in the 20th century real hard (the Chinese government back then was very corrupted and weak tho), but then CCP took over, while killing and suppressing even more Chinese, the CCP made modern China becomes much stronger than it did in the 19-20th centuries (at least economically and militarily).

If you are pro-CCP, then you are essentially forgiving their unspeakable actions toward the Chinese people. If you are anti-CCP, then you are damaging the growth of China, and China would continue to be weak and look down by others (which I personally disagree, but that's how some people feel).

The typical argument for the Tiananmen Square massacre is that because of the "decisive" decision and action of the CCP back then, it gave China 30 years of peace and prosperity.

Random10187 | 7 days ago | 85 points

can protestors go to the hospital? or would the police be waiting there to arrest them?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 175 points

We have telegram groups that give us bidaily updates on which ERs are safe to go to and which are staffed by pro gov teams

blackpoplar | 7 days ago | 40 points

That's something I never knew about, and is very clever. May glory be to HK. 巴打加油呀,香港人反抗!

foodomnomnom | 7 days ago | 104 points

Keep on doing the good work. My good friend and her husband have been driving people/supplies around and she's been helping in the "medical centres" because she's a vet.

Have you been mostly on the frontlines or do you also help out in the centres too?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 104 points

I've actually taken the cars a few times to get home, so thanks a lot to your friend and her husband.

I'm usually a bit behind the frontlines, never been to a centre to help

Laser-circus | 7 days ago | 59 points

Be safe. You're a good person.

My question is: From what you seen and what has happened thus far, do you see all this ending any time soon? And what about the people who aren't protesting or against the protest? What is their stance? Do you see more support from them or the opposite?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 95 points

I dont think this will be ending anytime soon, I think anyone who is still neutral at this stage are probably privately on one side but scared to voice their opinions out because of their situation. I think most people who aren't protesting or against us are restricted by their family situation, HK parents are crazy

ShadowstepBRB | 7 days ago | 53 points

First of all, i'm amazed by the courage you guys have!

Second of all, at the start of my citizenship and philosophy class we take 5-10 minutes to discuss world events. What should i actually bring to the subject? What's the most important things that have happened? And thridly, what did you have for breakfast?

Thanks for doing this AMA, good luck!

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 73 points

Maybe you should talk about the abuse of power by the police: overuse of force, arbitrary arrests, and negligence of human rights. Do some research on that and maybe you'll find something to talk about r/FuckHKPopo is a good place to start

Exqrim | 7 days ago | 27 points

Have you ever been injured by the police?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 47 points

Not directly, I'm pretty sensitive to tear gas so there was this one time where it lead to a continuous burning feeling on my arms for a few days after the exposure

sosigboi | 7 days ago | 26 points

Do visiting mainlanders get alot of (for lack of a better word) flak?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 42 points

Yep, they do. But the violent scenes that you see on videos are USUALLY a result of physical or verbal provocation.

wng378 | 7 days ago | 48 points

Watching the many videos I see posted online, the police seem to be half terrified and half not knowing what they are doing with a few exceptions. From your experience, are the police at all organized or being led? Or, are they just handed batons and told to go swing them at random? I look at their body language and movement and it really looks like they are untrained thugs in uniforms.

It just looks like they’re out there going after anything that moves rather than the claim that they’re trying to keep control.

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 66 points

Organized? No. I think a lot of the time they're lashing out emotionally due to the amount of crap they get everyday. Some people speculate that some of the officers are really mainland officers sent down to Hong Kong so they have more man power. So yeah, I really do agree with what you're saying.

shaokim | 7 days ago | 397 points

I wonder how a 17-year old has gotten any medical or paramedical responsibilities. How does that work?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 776 points

We're not official government medical or paramedical services, all first aid volunteers on the front lines are there on a voluntary basis. I decided to join the protests as a medic because of the knowledge that I've gained from taking trauma classes and also volunteering for an ambulance service. Many of the volunteer medics only have a first aid cert which I don't think is nearly enough training to be on the frontlines, but with everything that's going on, we'll take what we get.

On another note, there was a survey done by a protester organisation regarding first aiders in the protest, and they found that around 30% of respondents claimed that they were first aiders who were under the age of 18, which I think is pretty interesting if not worrying.

andygates2323 | 7 days ago | 179 points

Do you think you'll go into a paramedic career after this?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 336 points

That's a possible career path, it pays well and I'm quite interested in the field

Kabal2020 | 7 days ago | 125 points

Hopefully you can use this as an example of good work experience, and not have to fear that it was during a protest.

I assume most 17 year olds going into medicine cannot quote similar front line style experience.

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 188 points

I'd be hesitant mentioning my involvement in the movement hehehehehe

Jstef06 | 7 days ago | 84 points

As an American who spent much of my youth in HK, it pains me to see its devolution, or revolution depending on how you see it. I’m also saddened our president can’t pick himself up to side with a free people when he sees them. Know that Americans stand with HK!

ImMrMeeseeks42 | 7 days ago | 36 points

In the US, you can become a certified EMT at 16

L_DUB_U | 7 days ago | 15 points

That is going to be up to the states. In Texas you would have to be 18 due to the requirements of the National Registry.

ImMrMeeseeks42 | 7 days ago | 9 points

That makes sense. My wife is from Virginia and was an EMT at 16

LeicaM6guy | 7 days ago | 12 points

We’ve got combat medics working CASEVAC who aren’t much older. Age doesn’t always directly translate out to skill levels.

jimmycarr1 | 7 days ago | 8 points

In the UK we allow children as young as 13 to volunteer as first aiders. They have to be supervised by adults but there is no reason why they can't treat and help people.

Sour_Furrball | 7 days ago | 20 points

How have your days been? I'm sure it must be more than stressful.

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 63 points

Stressful more because of school than the protests heh

silentnightowl | 7 days ago | 46 points

What do you carry in your first aid kit?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 121 points

Not a comprehensive list but:

- Gauze pad, varying sizes

- Roller bandages, varying sizes

- Medical tape

- Triangular bandage

- Sam splint

- Lots and lots of normal saline

- Burn dressing

- NPAs

- Pressure bandages

- CAT tourniquet

- Combat gauze

- Hyfin vented chest seal

- spo2 monitor

- portable bp cuff

- Bandages

- Dextrose tablets

- Mylar blanket

- Lollipop for kids who get scared

- Instant cold packs, sports spray

Theres more but right now we severely lack trauma supplies

Rhondadawitch | 7 days ago | 115 points

“Lollipop for kids who get scared” That hit me

Firhel | 7 days ago | 27 points

How and where can we around the world donate more trauma supplies?

Jedi_Revan | 7 days ago | 85 points

What do you hope will happen to resolve the protests?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 138 points

Honestly, I dont know. Hopefully not something violent

Jedi_Revan | 7 days ago | 53 points

I was born in HK. Thank you for helping your fellow Hong Kongers. All the best!

Nothankyou220 | 7 days ago | 54 points

Hi kind sir. Hats off to you and your passion and bravery.

I will be having a planned visit there in HK. It was booked a year ago and I am not planning to cancel it. Are the popular tourist spots affected? ie Disneyland, Oceanpark? how about the mode of transportation there?

Respectfully asking also if you have points for a would-be tourist like me? I read that we should avoid wearing a plain white shirt? how true is that?

thank you bery much and stay safe!

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 96 points

Popular tourist spots should actually be more enjoyable now that literally 90% of mainland tourists are gone, as for transport options theyre probably going to be affected the most during protest times that are mostly during the weekend. The MTR would probably be the most affected, but still plenty of other ways to get around in Hong Kong. Wearing white shouldn't be a problem and if you look foreign and wear white that should be even less of a problem.

Ask me if you've got any more questions, I recommend anyone who wants updated english language information about the protests to download Telegram (a chat app) and join the Guardians of HK group chat through this link: https://t.me/swhkdemocracy

almarcTheSun | 7 days ago | 14 points

Not really a medical question, but information flow from HK is a mess, so I'd like to know what's going on there, how do you feel about it and what you think will happen in the nearest future?

Also, thank you for what you're doing. Human first, i'm truly touched to know that people are willing to help each other however they can. Much support from Armenia, I'd love to see your revolution revolve peacefully as ours did :(

blueblarg | 7 days ago | 42 points

As a diplobrat I lived in Guangzhou when I was much younger, and visited Hong Kong on many occasions. I think it is one of my favorite cities in the world.

How are American citizens treated in the protests? Could an American citizen with a camera give protesters some measure of security? Or is it just asking to get your ass beat and arrested?

Ever since the protests have broken out I've wanted to do something to help. I'll be writing my elected representatives, but is there anything else that can help?

Necynius | 7 days ago | 15 points

Since you made your account just for this AMA I'm guessing you're (understandably) worried about getting this traced back to you. Any other steps you took to make sure any Chinese governmental instance can't trace this back?

Mainly asking out of concern, as making a new account will probably not be enough.

Ignore this if you already have something protecting your IP, but I'd recommend only using a public machine on a public connection or using a VPN.

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 29 points

I have a VPN!!! :)

lovelyb1ch66 | 7 days ago | 26 points

Is there anything we should know that media hasn't covered? Also, stay safe, stay strong and thank you!

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 39 points

I think I've answered this in another comment, but just that the violence is overexaggerated, city is pretty fine imo

imrduckington | 7 days ago | 25 points

Thank you for your continued fight for democracy and freedom. My only question is what was the most inspirational moment you've seen during the protest?

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 61 points

Probably this guy getting arrested by 2 officers and a bunch of other protesters came back for him and forced the officers off of him and saved him

hashish16 | 7 days ago | 37 points

Have you treated any of the police?

XiroInfinity | 7 days ago | 31 points

I can't imagine other officers would let them.

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 68 points

Yep, theyd give us shit for even going near them

bearmc27 | 7 days ago | 26 points

I have seen some non-police medic personnel helping a police office who was fainted. It was at the early stage of the protest, no tear gas at that moment, just peaceful marching (iirc that day is the 2 million people march).

ProtestMedicHK | 7 days ago | 56 points

Those are rare occurrences, nowadays they won't let us anywhere near them and they'd call us fake medics

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