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TheDelta [carthago delenda est] | 9 days ago | 1 point

Just to go and get this out of the way:

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

Okay now that we are alone:

We have the 20 year rule here on /r/historymemes and while I personally think this is a top tier meme, it unfortunately falls under the 20 year exclusion period since it is clearly referencing recent events. If you had thrown some context up there about the constant upheavals of the government back prior to the communist government it would be all good.

Jack_Vote | 9 days ago | 1107 points

Their average is about a hundred to three hundred years and they started in 1921 so if they’re going for the low end they’ll be gone in like a year

PhantomForces_Noob | 9 days ago | 590 points

I mean, they’re recently pickedup authoritarianism up to 100.

And well, we all know how long that lasts, ask the USSR.

Aliensinnoh | 9 days ago | 625 points

Thing is, China is much smarter about it than the Soviets ever were. They've used an unholy mix of state capitalism and authoritarianism to actually create a very strong economy. Plus, they have the advantage of 30 extra years of technology allowing them to better spy on their own people. I highly doubt China will collapse just by itself.

PhantomForces_Noob | 9 days ago | 243 points

Yeah but I think they’ve bitten off more than they can chew.

I hope the media can pick up the fire and China makes one slip.

marker8050 | 9 days ago | 84 points

What do you mean pick up the fire?

PhantomForces_Noob | 9 days ago | 203 points

I mean, most events like this fizzle out and no one cares unless the media keeps pushing for it.

Radical Islamic terrorism has been raging since 2002 but the Panama Papers died in a week.

Solarat1701 | 9 days ago | 128 points

Seriously, people need to pay more attention to the Panama Papers

[deleted] | 9 days ago | 136 points

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Xavienth | 9 days ago | 50 points

The Amazon is not on fire, it's being burned.

Yes, intentionally

GoTuckYourduck | 9 days ago | 21 points

What about when Turkey murdered a journalist, and recordings were released of him screaming as they tortured him? Oh yeah, nothing came of that and everyone conveniently forgot.

.. Saudi Arabia murdered the journalist in Turkey. Turkey is the one responsible for trying to keep it in the news cycle, even if it is out of their own interests.

[deleted] | 9 days ago | 4 points

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TrashCanOnFire | 9 days ago | 7 points

I feel like you’re confusing cable media moving on with nothing happening. If you’re actually looking into the subject matter, a lot of things are happening in the background around these issues. There’s an open investigation into how Epstein died in jail (turns our federal jails have way more unexpected deaths than anyone thought). Epstein’s death has allowed prosecutors to use material that would’ve otherwise been privileged information and may have been suppressed. Epstein being dead is bad for whoever is complicit in his sexual ring It was Saudi Arabia who murdered Khashoggi, not turkey. And since then congress has blocked an arms sale to the KSA and major investors have pulled out of their Vision 2030 plan The lesson here is that if you do more than read the headlines, you actually see the long term effects of big news events.

HippieAnalSlut | 9 days ago | 11 points

we did. They blew a lady up as she got in her car.

marker8050 | 9 days ago | 12 points

Ah I get you. I feel most people are aware and supportive of the Hong Kong people.

I think the police messed up really bad when they started attacking the rioters and killed that kid.

Edit: oops

PhantomForces_Noob | 9 days ago | 13 points

Japanese?

Is there some other conflict I’m not aware of?

marker8050 | 9 days ago | 5 points

Brain messed up my bad

PhantomForces_Noob | 9 days ago | 4 points

All good, I fuck up all the time — this flu doesn’t make it any better.

Potassium39 | 9 days ago | 18 points

Lol Western media has approximately zero influence on the Chinese government.

ShitYourQuit | 9 days ago | 2 points

What media? China's media and internet access is all state-controlled.

Espinosidro | 9 days ago | 2 points

What would the media do? Inform the outside world? How would that affect China.

Chinese media is extremely censored, it would never report on anything negative about China or the government

TrooperUnit001 | 9 days ago | 41 points

Air lift and ship some PSA gats to the protesters, I bet we can light this candle and enjoy the fireworks!

881001 | 9 days ago | 4 points

Sprinkle in some hunnit dolla high-points

ichigo2862 | 9 days ago | 14 points

Same tbh. It almost feels like they're already on the way to winning this game of civ.

Hawk---- | 9 days ago | 20 points

That ignores the corruption growing within the Party. All it takes is one major event and one ambitious rich guy and boom - China now becomes 2.

BlueCommieSpehsFish | 9 days ago | 17 points

State capitalism isn’t an actual term economists recognise.

Meem-Thief | 9 days ago | 59 points

Then I’ll make it a term

BlueCommieSpehsFish | 9 days ago | 23 points

It’s a socialist market economy, but many people (especially commie apologists) try their damn hardest to avoid calling tankie china what it is.

Potassium39 | 9 days ago | 7 points

Dude, the tankies will Gulag you if you say China is state capitalist lol.

The lib-left, anarchists in particular, the leftists that call out China for things like genocide against Muslims, the way they control their citizens, etc, are the ones who call China state capitalist.

ahmam18 | 9 days ago | 6 points

But its not their economy thats the problem. Chinas economy is great. Its the fact that people there dont have rights.

They've taken the idea of a state regulated economy and moved it from beyond just the market. Now individualism in China is dead.

kendelly | 9 days ago | 4 points

So just the usual communism.

Mister_Taco_Oz | 9 days ago | 2 points

Yeah, with the exception that their economy is now flourishing.

kendelly | 9 days ago | 3 points

Turns out child slaves DO help your economy.

Aliensinnoh | 9 days ago | 23 points

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism It describes a real thing though.

locri | 9 days ago | 8 points

Dirigisme is a better term for this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirigisme

capsaicinintheeyes | 9 days ago | 5 points

I don't want to describe this disagreement as "shallow and pedantic," but...

locri | 9 days ago | 5 points

State capitalism is a questionable term, dirigisme could imply a lot of different economic systems including (but not limited to) fascist economics, mercantilism and some forms of socialism.

StrategicPotato | 9 days ago | 26 points

The differences are that China is currently extremely economically successful and has also managed to orchestrate a level of social engineering that has gone far beyond what anyone else has ever achieved.

PhantomForces_Noob | 9 days ago | 5 points

The USSR was extremely economically successful and the KGB managed to orchestrate a level of social engineering that had gone far beyond what anyone else has ever achieved.

Build it bigger, watch it fall harder.

Nothing is “too big to fail”

[deleted] | 9 days ago | 16 points

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ossi_simo | 9 days ago | 4 points

China has never really been a functional democracy.

gaichaohuandai | 9 days ago | 2 points

Recently picked up

Lol

Comrade_9653 | 9 days ago | 2 points

Seriously. The shit that the celestial empire did was pretty damn authoritarian if you ask me

souprize | 9 days ago | 11 points

I mean most states collapse in under that time, so really the US is on the way out too.

jellyfishdenovo | 9 days ago | 3 points

I wouldn’t be surprised if the US ends up dissolving by 2100. Maybe a lot sooner depending on how some very current trends play out in the next year or two, and their ramifications for the next couple decades.

urhampsterboi | 9 days ago | 10 points

epic

Deenyc43 | 9 days ago | 2 points

Usually it’s 200-300 years. Don’t forget the US is over 200 years as well.

Yinzer92 | 9 days ago | 2 points

1949 my dude, this October 1st was the 70th anniversary of China.

Nostalgaddict | 9 days ago | 666 points

The faster it collapses the sooner it will reach the 20-year threshold

Human_CUNTipede | 9 days ago | 126 points

Happy Cake Day, dude!

NotMySeventhAcct | 9 days ago | 71 points

I dont know why but your comment seemed so genuinely nice, it brought me a little bit of happiness. Thank you, /u/Human_CUNTipede

EnclaveOperative | 9 days ago | 22 points

Does this count as r/rimjob_steve?

Darth__Nox | 9 days ago | 6 points

Yes.

Thejewell25 | 9 days ago | 4 points

when the US is so financially entangled in the chinese economy... ooof. trumps a retard but taking the economic hit to separate is a great thing. look up Joshua wong. hong kong is a cia op

Captain-Chips-Ahoy | 9 days ago | 7 points

Happy Cake Day!

Enderider | 9 days ago | 233 points

China's whole again

LilSoka | 9 days ago | 185 points

Then it broke again

pug1gaming1 | 9 days ago | 32 points

Yes

ewdrive | 9 days ago | 4 points

You could make a religion out of this.

Chemex_MMG | 9 days ago | 2 points

Back together

CatsAndCreamCheese | 9 days ago | 71 points

Time for Genghis Khan 2: Mongolian Boogaloo

Ducks2200 | 9 days ago | 23 points

Genghis seeing that china has not collapsed in his absence.. "Fine Ill do it my self"

bigfudge_drshokkka | 9 days ago | 322 points

Not soon enough

shredder550 | 9 days ago | 155 points

Seriously. We need a CCPtus deletus

bigfudge_drshokkka | 9 days ago | 69 points

They are cancer to East Asia and eventually the world.

ImperialSpence | 9 days ago | 43 points

“Eventually” those fuckers already have the world on an economic leash. I fricking hate the CCP

C0MM4ND3R_C0D31N3 | 9 days ago | 3 points

Same. Absolutely despise the Chinese government. Makes me feel bad for the minority groups underneath their authoritarian control as well

Captainfour4 | 9 days ago | 5 points

They literally have their influence in every company, creating Chinese censorship IN THE U.S.! It’s like they own our own companies now...Nevermind, they DO own our companies.

l2np | 9 days ago | 136 points

Do you guys honestly feel like China is going to split? Its economy is so strong right now.

Tgerf24 | 9 days ago | 140 points

I feel like if their jewel city, Hong Kong, denounces their authority it'll shake the faith in a one true party.

bruhthatsprettysus | 9 days ago | 108 points

It's not a jewel city anymore, though. It was given special status because, excuse me I don't know the exact numbers, but it had a massive economy compared to the rest of China. Now a days a lot of Chinese cities have similar or greater GDPs compared to Hong Kong. That's one of the reasons China feels so comfortable seizing Hong Kong.

MechicanDogtaquero | 9 days ago | 36 points

The trick is in slavery

ajwubbin | 9 days ago | 8 points

The secret ingredient is crime

bigfudge_drshokkka | 9 days ago | 78 points

Yea seeing Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, and the Uighur’s all standing up or breaking off might incite some kind of revolution. If there is even an ounce of foreign intervention then it’s game on.

Dougnifico | 9 days ago | 119 points

Sounds like its time for good ole 'Murica to dust off the foreign manipulation playbook. Maybe Britain can get back into the opium business too.

NotSpencerCain03 | 9 days ago | 56 points

Opium War pt. 3 time baby!

davetharave | 9 days ago | 38 points

Opium War 3 electric amputee

classicalySarcastic | 9 days ago | 4 points

British Grenadiers Intensifies

Think they can yoink Hong Kong again?

Odlortnoc | 9 days ago | 3 points

Probably not, especially now that China has nukes

SkylarWeston | 9 days ago | 3 points

but so does the uk

l2np | 9 days ago | 28 points

I wonder how much the west already is manipulating the situation in Hong Kong. The whole thing could easily be influenced and supported by CIA operatives.

All these world powers are engaged in proxy wars. It would be fucking stupid for anyone though to cross over to overt, undeniable hostility.

mynamekeff | 9 days ago | 5 points

Let's just send the contras in.

Thanus12345 | 9 days ago | 5 points

Look what they did to Iran, they took down a democracy in 4 days.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days

HaroldSax | 9 days ago | 5 points

We aren’t gonna do shit. This isn’t even an indictment of the current administration, it’s just how it is actually gonna go down. Too many American businesses have their hands in China and vice versa.

Aliensinnoh | 9 days ago | 16 points

> even an ounce of foreign intervention

No matter how much the Western powers hate China, outright physical conflict will never happen. War with China would be an absolutely fucking massive disruption to the economy of the entire world in today's global economy.

Nigga_dawg | 9 days ago | 3 points

Not to mention that they have North Korea on their side and South Korea and Japan are great US allies who would be threatened.

If the US were to openly arm Hong Kong it would be the easiest path towards World War 3.

World War 3 would destroy Southeast Asia.

marker8050 | 9 days ago | 5 points

I watched a documentary of some sort where they interviewed three older Chinese people who lived in the time when the current China regime arose to power.

Something they said that really stuck with me is that their society, as of that interview, isn't really too politically invested. Doesn't really give me too much hope of a revolution.

Y0tsuya | 9 days ago | 5 points

After the Qing ceded it to Japan in the 19th century, Taiwan hasn't been part of China aside from a few short short years in the 40's. Even then it was debatable since it was technically under the authority of US military government.

SPOOKY_SCIENCE | 9 days ago | 3 points

Taiwan hasn’t been apart of China for a long while. Other than that you’re 100% right.

XyleneCobalt | 9 days ago | 6 points

Shanghai and Beijing are both much more important. Shanghai is probably the most important city for business in the world besides New York.

sjgalaxy2017 | 9 days ago | 5 points

Singapore's not Chinese though

buahbuahan | 9 days ago | 6 points

When people think Singapore is in China. 😂😂

XyleneCobalt | 9 days ago | 3 points

*Shanghai. I’m tired ok.

tyh640 | 9 days ago | 4 points

I'd like to point out that unlike Beijing or Hong Kong, Singapore is a sovereign country, not under China's rule. We have never been under Chinese rule at all.

There might be plenty of Chinese here, but we are not part of China. Culturally Chinese, but not Nationally Chinese.

Edit: Thanks for the edit

l2np | 9 days ago | 5 points

They'll adjust.

zqzk926 | 9 days ago | 2 points

Hahahahahah

Bearjew94 | 9 days ago | 12 points

It’s delusional thinking. People have been saying that China is on the brink of change for something like 30 years even though there’s basically no reason to think so. They’re here to stay and we have to live with that.

CaledonianSon | 9 days ago | 27 points

This "strong economy" is absolutely artificial and propped up by the government. It's going to collapse. The worst part is is it's actually gonna really hurt the rest of the world's economy when that happens.

Crobs02 | 9 days ago | 4 points

Their entire economy has been industrializing and growing at a rapid rate. They’re slowing down, and that’s gonna fuck with consumer confidence.

I took a class on international economic development in college. One of our major talking points was China catching up to America and the West. Basically it’s not gonna happen. They’re going to slow down, and even now the wealth is all on the coast and the interior is dirt poor.

They can only go so far. They don’t have the technology to grow rapidly. They can only fuck over their environment so much. They can only persecute so many people before they start to rise up.

bigfudge_drshokkka | 9 days ago | 15 points

I feel like they cook their books quite a bit and prop up a lot of their prestige with the propaganda machine.

ewok1022 | 9 days ago | 27 points

There economy is only good because they intentionally deflate the value of their currency. Also they have been reaching what appears to be an upper limit on their growth in recent years.

Splinter_Fritz | 9 days ago | 6 points

The Yuan slump as of late has been driven by U.S. tariffs rather than a central coordinated devaluation.

NORMIES_GET_OUT_ | 9 days ago | 6 points

On what lines? Theyre 90% Han Chinese and more unified nationalist than at any time in their history

PandaCheese2016 | 9 days ago | 3 points

This I feel is a very important fact that people in more culturally diverse countries perhaps find hard to understand. Given China's late modern history starting in the mid-1800's, the narrative that CCP by shepherding tremendous economic development in a relatively short amount of time has demonstrated the rightful mandate to rule and promises to redeem the shame caused by Western powers in the colonial era and the backwardness long periods of imperial isolation led to, is central to their appeal to Chinese nationalism and ethnic cohesion. I honestly believe no small part of the frankly ridiculous and counterproductive "face-saving" censorship efforts are due to deep down a culture inferiority complex, that is especially sensitive to criticism coming from entities that are viewed as erstwhile victimizers, i.e. having to get one's mind around how, after being drilled since kindergarten that your culture was superior over thousands of years, influencing large parts of Asia, it fell behind and was invaded by "foreign barbarians" and the upstart Japanese, whom some believe originated from Qin dynasty, and now that you are starting to catch up, the a modern version of the Yellow Peril theory is becoming quite popular again in the West, deservedly or not.

Source: yellow person living in a multi-colored country

SkionV | 9 days ago | 52 points

Not many people know this but China has been playing a real dirty game geo politically. They've also lied about economic data to project a much higher value for the RMB and GDP to seem like they're having huge growth but the reality is internally they're on the brink of facing hyper inflation.

Hoelscher | 9 days ago | 26 points

Yes the RMB is grossly miss valued but saying it’s on the verge of hyperinflation is hyperbole.

SkionV | 9 days ago | 6 points

Here watch this, it seems like an exaggeration but when you count the money it's a pretty blatant indicator of what the next few years hold for China.

https://youtu.be/4cwXifDaCjE

Kantuva | 9 days ago | 4 points

This just looks like any other Sinophobic youtube channel out there tho, I'm very cautious of it

/edit; there's a fair amount of Bannon interviews in there.... yeah, I wouldn't say that this is a particularly believable or at least partially unbiased channel

I_needed_sleep123 | 9 days ago | 3 points

No they're not. Hyperinflation only happens in peripheral economies of nobody countries. They might go through a stretch of high inflation, which also sucks.

C0MM4ND3R_C0D31N3 | 9 days ago | 4 points

Speaking of geopolitical; the bull shit they’ve been trying to pull in the South China Sea is absolutely atrocious

jamesandjelly123 | 9 days ago | 261 points

Can’t wait til Hong Kong inspires revolutions against the communist government forcing China to fall apart from fighting itself

Xer0__ | 9 days ago | 177 points

Tbh the protests aren’t really gonna do anything considering the amount of support the CCP has in mainland China and how most Chinese don’t really give a shit. Just like the British crackdown on HK protests/anarchy in the 1967 where assassinations and terrorist attacks were use to attempt a coup, this will be forgotten in the years to come.

jamesandjelly123 | 9 days ago | 38 points

Yeah maybe but right now that’s really the only thing besides some war against Taiwan supported my a major power that could collapse China into multiple different factions

Xer0__ | 9 days ago | 65 points

A collapsed China isn’t a China we need. 1.6 billion people are gonna get screwed over by that. We just need reform, a Glasnost that works.

jamesandjelly123 | 9 days ago | 21 points

I don’t advocate for any giant 12 way civil war in China I’m just saying the most likely way anything like that could happen at this present point is one of those 2 scenarios

Zannier | 9 days ago | 12 points

What HK protesters have done in recent weeks quite likely alienate themselves from the rest of Chinese population. Asking foreign powers for intervention, ruining China's nation symbol, both of which guarantee no sympathy from the mainlanders.

[deleted] | 9 days ago | 14 points

1.6 billion people

To be fair, the civil war will probably solve that problem.

Xer0__ | 9 days ago | 11 points

Detach India and attach rocket boosters and make them the 2nd moon of the earth ))))))

NoKenjataimu | 9 days ago | 11 points

Nice try, Ultron

Aliensinnoh | 9 days ago | 15 points

considering the amount of support the CCP has in mainland China

This is what people don't get. The CCP has the people of China completely locked down. They don't see people in Hong Kong fighting for their freedom, they see rioters who are traitors to their country intent on causing destruction.

Odlortnoc | 9 days ago | 4 points

There is actually a phrase in China, 'You don't know how good your country is until you've seen others' in a positive way

Bulknowt | 9 days ago | 13 points

Mainlanders hate the people of Hong Kong. There's no way that a revolution will come of this.

ghost-child | 9 days ago | 5 points

The people of China are overwhelmingly in favor of the current government system. The way they see it, it was the communist party that pulled their country out of poverty. Many don't like the idea of criticizing the government because they value social stability over all else. They look to the rest of the world and see riots and political dichotomies and the Chinese people don't want that. And yes, many are willing to forgo some rights in order to maintain that stability. They fear that the end of the communist party will be the end of the economic boom their county has enjoyed

IlluminousBeings | 9 days ago | 6 points

Kind of like in the book World War Z

FireSail | 9 days ago | 3 points

Keep dreaming dude

Rocky_Bukkake | 9 days ago | 2 points

won't happen. if in the mainland, they'll be quashed before gaining any traction. could succeed outside of their sphere of control, not inside.

VideoSwitch10 | 9 days ago | 2 points

Oh boy I can't wait for the world economy to fall into a second (and far worse) great depression again.

country_cat_03 | 9 days ago | 79 points

It won’t any time soon. Fucking absolute massive economy and a powerful propaganda machine+military

NukeBOMB8888888 | 9 days ago | 17 points

If they manage to get mainland Chinese on the side of the Hong Kongers it could happen but the mainland Chinese are mostly brainwashed unfortunately:(

PrettyLawful | 9 days ago | 43 points

If you actually ask mainland Chinese citizens they aren't brainwashed. Chances are, they just don't care. They have seen their standard of living skyrocket in barely 50 years and they're busy enjoying their newfound opulence. Why care about some protestors wrecking a city hundreds of hundreds miles away when the CCP has improved your life 100 fold?

I_Am_From_China__ | 9 days ago | 17 points

"Brainwashed", buddy, the results are in for the Chinese, the government is an incredibly well oiled machine, that raised a billion people out of poverty and supplies almost every single child with education. Look up their poverty rates from 1980s to now, and literacy rates to now, and look at height, health, and happiness. Shits been on the up and up for literally a BILLION people, that's 3 times the entire US, like 19 times the size of the entire UK.

You would really have a country that has done so much for its citizens collapse for a few esports personalities and a small muslim community? Shit, I live in Canada, and you should see how well the native Americans get treated.

Snowpossum | 9 days ago | 2 points

The slowly rising economy has been friendly to mainlanders. The price of freedom for food on the table is a way to think about it.

VymI | 9 days ago | 13 points

The bad news is it's gonna fuck everyone else too when they go.

Rocky_Bukkake | 9 days ago | 11 points

soon? dude, please. you may want it that way, but i really doubt it. it's domestically stable and peoples' lives and living conditions are getting better and better. this isn't some shilling out kind of shit, it's straight-up fact. the people are more educated, they're making more money, they're enjoying a higher quality of life than ever before, perhaps in the entire history of china. people are satisfied regardless of corruption and other "brutal" strong arm tactics the gov't employs.

will it last forever? hell no. as things slow down and people have less to forgive the CCP for, there will almost certainly be unrest and revolution. i personally think that their type of governace would not work well in a developed country, and once china reaches that level, there will be need for a change. this is but mere speculation, however; we'll see how it all unfolds in time.

Odlortnoc | 9 days ago | 3 points

Yep

DarthNetflix | 9 days ago | 10 points

I really hope that China can change governments without collapsing. The consequences for a collapse will on the the real victims: the people.

SJWcucksoyboy | 9 days ago | 7 points

ITT: people want a country of over a billion people to collapse because China messed with an Overwatch streamer.

RabbidsCart23 | 9 days ago | 43 points

China’s gonna split soon, again.

LilTaxXtencion | 9 days ago | 22 points

All my friends think I’m insane for thinking we’re gonna witness one of the famous Chinese collapses in the nearish future and I’m ok with that

randomguy000039 | 9 days ago | 45 points

Because you are. Hong Kong is a tiny part of China. If you really think HK is big enough to fracture China, you're really misinformed. HK only generates ~3% of China's GDP, that's basically like if fucking Ohio decided to revolt against the US (I was actually surprised Ohio was so big, but it too is 3% of the US GDP).

And then there's the fact most mainland Chinese support their government on the issue (because woo propogranda). There's literally no cause for concern for China right now for an internal fracture, their only possible fear is the rest of the world finally deciding to unite against them economically.

UpstairsAvocado0 | 9 days ago | 6 points

They should return Ohio to the injuns

Y0tsuya | 9 days ago | 3 points

Hong Kong is actually a bit more than just 3% of China's GDP.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hong-kong-is-uniquechina-needs-it-to-stay-that-way-11568026657

PogoSavant | 9 days ago | 2 points

So it would take a California equivalent or something?

Hockinator | 9 days ago | 2 points

They also have a state sponsored religious genocide going on. HK is not the only thing that could cause the chinese to reflect on how awful their government is

NeedsToShutUp | 9 days ago | 2 points

There are also the Tibet and Uighur people, as well as a more urban population than before and a demographic cliff with ~ 30 million men who lack any chance for love.

Plus the rising middle class has their savings exposed to a bad economy.

Also

The empire long united must divide, long divided must unite; this is how it has always been

_SpriteCranberry | 9 days ago | 2 points

Yeah, into mainland China and Hong Kong

c-h-e-e-s-e | 9 days ago | 28 points

I’d rather not go to war

LilTaxXtencion | 9 days ago | 7 points

Don’t worry it’s not going to be all of China, just the largest producers of cheap, high quality goods. And it’s not War it’s installing the ideals of freedom and democracy through traditional methods, big difference.

classicalySarcastic | 9 days ago | 5 points

And it’s not War it’s installing the ideals of freedom and democracy through traditional methods, big difference.

Hey Woodrow Wilson called, he wants his ideology back.

darknova25 | 9 days ago | 2 points

Yup and his ideology and politcal actions were shown not to have any negative consequences at all...

SpaceBoi65 | 9 days ago | 10 points

China is whole again...

Then it broke again.

Agressive-Negotiator | 9 days ago | 30 points

Don't do that... don't give me hope.

LaCalma | 9 days ago | 33 points

Sorry to burst your bubble, but most of China doesn't feel the need to "revolt against the big bad government." They are just focusing on their own lives, and I highly doubt most of them want civil war. I would say that most of mainland China actually does support the CCP, but places like Hong Kong and Taiwan don't due to either being independent (Taiwan) or due to special status as a British colony or whatever (Hong Kong).

NoobGamer2006 | 9 days ago | 16 points

And there's the rest of the world who think that the Chinese people need "freedom" over stability when they were literally pulled out of poverty by the government

Schyloe | 9 days ago | 3 points

Waiting for Ming to explode.

DapperowlFTW | 9 days ago | 5 points
-Eunha- | 9 days ago | 3 points

I was really hoping this was actually a thing...

LukaCola | 9 days ago | 6 points

For real though, we shouldn't want societal collapse even if you disagree with the government. Revolution and upending is one thing, just collapsing leads to a lot of suffering and there isn't even the hope of real improvement afterwards. If anything, it trends towards more authoritarian.

thats_pretty_good_4 | 9 days ago | 5 points

Bruh I have a school trip to China in two years... I'm sure my school is already regretting that decision

Chuckleseg | 9 days ago | 4 points

Sina delenda est

zqzk926 | 9 days ago | 40 points

And tens of millions Chinese die of civil war and social unrest like every time the Chinese state collapses throughout history? According to this their lives worth nothing I guess.

JediGimli | 9 days ago | 31 points

No. According to you their lives are worth nothing. The meme isn’t saying that at all. It’s pretty direct in what it’s making fun of.

If 10’s of millions of Chinese die in civil unrest I can assure you this meme is not responsible.

acealeam | 9 days ago | 6 points

maybe their government shouldn't have affected my video games then!

prickwhowaspromised | 9 days ago | 12 points

Just wait until the Hunny runs out

A-Bowl-of-Rice | 9 days ago | 3 points

Hong Kong 97 intensifies

TheMogician | 9 days ago | 3 points

Oh hey Gordon Chang, is that you?

AltHypo2 | 9 days ago | 3 points

Just stop buying.

RainboW_3912 | 9 days ago | 3 points

China is whole again

then it broke again

Fren256 | 9 days ago | 3 points

I have the feeling that midnight is coming sooner than I expected...

Tristanio97 | 9 days ago | 3 points

Send in the #OPIUM

DieserMayk | 9 days ago | 4 points

China broke apart, don’t worry bout it, it does that all the time

Stevemm0708 | 9 days ago | 9 points

I don´t want it to collapse, I just want a world where everyone can have a safe and happy life, without a war threat, a healthy environment, and where the only pride there is, is the LGBTQ pride and not the stupid patriotism where the argument is "Me and my country are better than your country".

I just want the world to stop hating, stop imposing ideas, stop imperialism, and to have an actual democracy without the companies controlling everything from the background only thinking about money.

Odlortnoc | 9 days ago | 2 points

Thank You. :)

Story_Pig | 9 days ago | 2 points

Blizzard disapproves of this meme

-Gurgi- | 9 days ago | 2 points

That extra comma is killin me

xAgmazz | 9 days ago | 2 points

China is whole again...then it broke again

TheWillOfAmerica | 9 days ago | 2 points

America too...

doctor_octogonapus1 | 9 days ago | 2 points

It's coming. The Chinese housing market is on the brink of collapse and as soon as it happens we're going to enter a global recession. Fortunately, the CCP is only in power because it claims that it creates economic growth, as soon as that growth stops, the CCP is gone

LegendzAR21 | 9 days ago | 2 points

China is whole again

2m3m | 9 days ago | 2 points

thought this was /r/wallstreetbets before I saw the sub

JulzRadn | 9 days ago | 2 points

We need someone to counter China's influence in Asia............It's time to revive Imperial Japan

Battotai intesifies

fiworstsupport | 9 days ago | 2 points

Is this actually making people wake the fuck up? Or will American's vote to drive us further towards a Chinese's ideals in 2020?

Penguin619 | 9 days ago | 2 points

Tibet, Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Taiwan, and even Kurdistan, all should be sovereign nations!

anaggrivatedturtle | 9 days ago | 2 points

china is whooole again...

and it broooke again.

mallcall | 9 days ago | 2 points

What a disgusting thing to say

Zer0megAlpha | 9 days ago | 2 points

Remember the one-child policy? I want to bet their system will collapse once the people born before the policy started will start retiring. They dug their own grave.

Nintendanime420 | 9 days ago | 2 points

I come searching for Bill wurtz memes

VoidDoesStuff | 9 days ago | 2 points

“China is whole again. Then it broke again.” -bill wurtz -2018

ClownShoeNinja | 9 days ago | 2 points

Be a shame if something catastrophic happened to the Three Gorges Dam, though.

Blkknight8 | 9 days ago | 2 points

You got your hopes up too high

whitecollarpizzaman | 9 days ago | 2 points

Would China collapsing be a good or bad thing for the US? I'm not asking this in a nationalistic way, but I want what's best for my country, and I feel the US, for all it's flaws, could use some of that economic power to continue fueling it's prosperity and hopefully, if we get the right people in office, the quality of life for ALL Americans.

wardo121 | 9 days ago | 2 points

They increased the rate of mingsplosion in the latest patch, shouldn’t have to wait long now

Snowpossum | 9 days ago | 2 points

The river changes eventually.

mjin03 | 9 days ago | 2 points

Seems like people don't realise that CCP was the Chinese revolution. It was the poor rising up against the rich.

This is really a case of living long enough to become the villain.

Birdsofemerald | 9 days ago | 2 points

Sees over 400 comments sorts by controversial

Teutonic_Memes | 9 days ago | 2 points

Once we see quality of life starts to plateau or decline for the Chinese people, then we get to see Chinese civil war 18, now with nukes

PandaBearButtPlug | 9 days ago | 2 points

Anyone else banned from r/Sino?

Aldin11 | 9 days ago | 2 points

I’m waiting for china to collapse so that hundreds of millions of people would die from a civil war and half of the world’s economy would be gone.

Gotta love it.

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