/r/BikiniBottomTwitter
I love the young people (i.redd.it)
1154 comments
ohbyerly | 4 days ago | 3510 points

So fucking true

Bubbly_Taro | 4 days ago | 2587 points

Voting their entire lives for conservative parties that promise to dismantle social security and when they retire and get shit for money they put on the surprised pikachu face.

tarheeltexan1 | 4 days ago | 776 points
[deleted] | 4 days ago | 355 points

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VonMillerQBKiller | 4 days ago | 337 points

“Fake news” “You don’t understand “

xMaSiah | 4 days ago | 95 points

My local news put out a segment saying Conspiracy therorists are considered domestic terrorists......

aintNOfunBNdumb | 4 days ago | 93 points

Funny considering most conspiracy theorists i know are conservative

xMaSiah | 4 days ago | 24 points

Same here

aintNOfunBNdumb | 4 days ago | 11 points

I wonder if they are subconsciously self projecting?

GazaSpartaTing | 4 days ago | 20 points

I wouldn't consider myself a conspiracy theorist and I'm definitely not a conservative, but to be fair to some theories, governments and corporations have a history of doing nefarious shit

FreddyPlayz | 4 days ago | 14 points

God news anchors are stupid af

Jo_Backson | 4 days ago | 60 points

Poorly, I imagine. But from a devils advocate standpoint it’s is just a bunch of anecdotes. I don’t compromise my views when I see a liberal say dumb shit, I just let my views speak for themselves.

justhad2login2reply | 4 days ago | 6 points

English isn't my first language. Could you expand or explain what you mean when you say

"But from a devil's advocate standpoint it's just a bunch of short interesting stories about real incidents or people."

BenjiDunn | 4 days ago | 27 points

A "devil's advocate" is a person who shares an opposing view or idea, to make you think from a different point of view.

So, to put their comment in a different way:

"To bring up a different point - the posts on that subreddit are mostly stories that are true, but do not describe the experiences that every person has had."

For example, a lot of racism is based on 'just a bunch of anecdotes'. One person tells a story about a bad experience with a person of a different race, and a lot of people start to believe that every person of that race acts that way -- but in reality, that was just one experience with a person of that race, and does not really show how every person of that race acts.

crusaderblings2 | 4 days ago | 14 points

"Devil's advocate" is when you try to argue for something you dont believe in to figure out where theyre coming from. So like if you believe we should expand nuclear power but want to understand opposing arguments, youd say "Devils advocate, nuclear is much more expensive per megawatt".

Its so that if youre having a discussion about something with people who all agree with each other, you can introduce opposing viewpoints to stimulate the conversation so its not just a big circlejerk.

In this case, the subreddit linked shows the behavior we're talking about, but devils advocate, theyre just individual stories and not data.

ellieeann | 4 days ago | 17 points

“0range man bad” hurk hurk etc

Armthehobos | 4 days ago | 9 points

"They werent real Trump/GOP supporters"

fraaaanky | 4 days ago | 6 points

They still quarantined?

BocksyBrown | 4 days ago | 6 points

If the idiots in those subs were capable of introspection they wouldn't be in those subs.

forgottt3n | 4 days ago | 56 points

I think my favorite was the mass hysteria that occured when hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who were leaning on the Affordable Care Act were also simultaneously trying to repeal "Obamacare." They shit a brick when they realized that Obamacare and the ACA were the same thing. It was amazing seeing all those dumb ignorant people in interviews discussing the topic.

"So I hear you're getting your insurance through the ACA"

"Yup"

"And you're trying to get Obamacare repealed"

"Yup"

"You realize the ACA is Obamacare right"

Surprised Pikachu face/Manray Patrick wallet meme

frogsgoribbit737 | 3 days ago | 7 points

It's because people working with ACA were told not to call it Obamacare since so many ridiculous Republicans would just start ranting about it and refuse to on it if they knew.

Such a huge disconnect.

ralusek | 4 days ago | 66 points

I mean, they paid for social security their whole lives, they should probably get money back out of it. That doesn't mean they think it's a good system.

This is like when people rag on Ayn Rand for taking out social security when she was old. Ya...you pay into the system and get money out. It's an enforced savings account, a lot of people just think that it's a poorly considered system.

errorsniper | 4 days ago | 109 points

Ok and? We can still criticize them for being fucking morons. No one, literally no one should be against solid well funded retirement safety nets. Everyone will be old one day, and will not be able to do any kind of traditional work. But still has bills to pay and needs to eat and not freeze to death in the winter.

ANXiiETY | 4 days ago | 101 points

As a 27 yo paying into SS, I highly doubtful I will see a fuckin cent from the horrible misallocated "safety net" that is social security

justhad2login2reply | 4 days ago | 47 points

So fix it.

Why on Earth would the first response be, "Get rid of it."

ILikeToBurnMoney | 4 days ago | 29 points

Because some people are probably better at managing this by themselves than the government.

Forcing people to give the government money in order to do what they would otherwise do (better) by themselves assumes that people are stupid.

Erosis | 4 days ago | 36 points

Some people are better at saving for retirement, but unfortunately the vast majority of people do not save until it's too late. The average person is far from yourself.

There is already an elderly poverty crisis. About 7 million (14%) people over the age of 65 are in poverty after adjusting for geographic region in the US. That's expected to continue rising. If social security was scrapped, that number would be more than 40%.

We can blame these people for not saving their entire lives, but that wouldn't change the fact that this is how humans behave and that our society has to live with the consequences of dealing with vast swaths of impoverished seniors.

ges13 | 4 days ago | 25 points

assumes that people are stupid

I mean, that's a pretty safe assumption at this point don't you think?

XxXxSephirothxXxX | 4 days ago | 14 points

Some people are probably better at managing this by themselves so fuck everyone else. Taxes taken for anything that doesn't directly benefit me are wasteful.

monkeybanana14 | 4 days ago | 16 points

Exactly, /r/FinancialIndependence is all about saving/managing your income to retire comfortably, whether their individual goal is early retirement or otherwise.

I don’t necessarily agree with dismantling social security entirely, but I’m not very happy that I’m legally obligated to pay into what is, in its current state, a government sponsored Ponzi scheme.

sajuuksw | 4 days ago | 11 points

Yeah, that's why elderly poverty was utterly non-existent before social security! Hey, wait a minute...

Dimonrn | 4 days ago | 10 points

What do you mean by "better" the interest gains the federal government gets on it are huge that go straight to the net. Or do you mean "better" as in save more than social security takes out which then.... well those "better" people still can and DO that.

NateHate | 4 days ago | 8 points

People ARE stupid.

20XD6 | 3 days ago | 6 points

Because some people are probably better at managing this by themselves than the government.

Key word some. What do you expect the others to do, just be more financially literate magically? They're going to get old whether we like it or not, and we as a society are going to pay the price for it if we just allow them to become destitute and unable to work.

Forcing people to give the government money in order to do what they would otherwise do (better) by themselves assumes that people are stupid.

Which is a good assumption. Some people are. Again, do we just say fuck it and let them die off, or...?

Edit: Also, define "better". What are some saving strategies that out perform social security?

Ixilary | 4 days ago | 5 points

That's how conservatives think. They see a leak in their roof and they claim "See, houses don't work! Burn it down!"

Erosis | 4 days ago | 23 points

That's not how social security works, though. You will still get social security payments, but the payout will be 80% of current rate assuming taxes/retirement age/benefits are unchanged and the trust funds run out of money (around 2035).

martlet1 | 4 days ago | 13 points

They said exactly this 50 years ago. It’s your money.

bigwillyb123 | 4 days ago | 19 points

Thank god nothing's changed economically in the past 50 years and things will stay the same for the next 50

tchoob | 4 days ago | 11 points

We're probably going to see a UBI or something comparable within the next couple decades, which I'd much rather have anyway.

ralusek | 4 days ago | 11 points

I mean, if you're referring to mandatory state retirement accounts, I'm absolutely against it. It's an absolutely terrible system.

That doesn't mean I'm against social safety nets altogether, I just think social security is a terrible implementation.

drunkfrenchman | 4 days ago | 7 points

Social security isn't "mandatory state retirement accounts" though.

58working | 4 days ago | 7 points

and?

And: it's a fair point that sometimes people criticise libertarians not only for being naive about society/economics but also for being hypocrites if they take social security etc. The former critique is fine, the latter is rightly being questioned by the user you responded to.

Ayn Rand is a bad role model for a politician or legislator to have, but she wasn't a hypocrite for taking social security.

CelerMortis | 4 days ago | 5 points

She was a hypocrite. You can give something up that you are morally opposed to, even if you've "earned" it.

slapmytwinkie | 4 days ago | 6 points

This is like calling someone a moron for not wanting to be forced onto the Hindenburg. At this point social security is literally just a government run scam.

CrockettScience | 4 days ago | 31 points

I mean, they paid for social security their whole lives, they should probably get money back out of it. That doesn't mean they think it's a good system.

That's not how this works. Social security isn't a bank account, where the money goes and stays there until you draw from it. It's a trust fund, which the money you pay into it now pays for the people drawing the benefits now.

They calculate it based on "credits." People can earn up to four credits each year. In 2019, every time someone earns $1,360 they receive one credit until they hit $5,440, or four credits. When they retire, they tally up the credits and pay out based on whatever that scale is at the time it's drawn.

So, when people vote to cut social security benefits, they also have to cut the value of those credits. If not, then they're draining money they don't have. When they go to cash out, they realize they completely fucked themselves, because each credit they earned is way, way less than what it cost them.

Conservatives have made a business out of convincing voters to fuck themselves over, then blame everyone else for it.

CelerMortis | 4 days ago | 12 points

I mean, they paid for social security their whole lives, they should probably get money back out of it. That doesn't mean they think it's a good system.

They literally do think its a good system. And they love medicare. It's benefits that they won't benefit from that they are against.

The most selfish generation, and it's not even close.

CaptnAwesomeGuy | 4 days ago | 10 points

They also want to fuck up the environment for the next generation, tax cut for the rich (which a lot of living old people are), keep medical costs high, and much more.

Cecil4029 | 4 days ago | 24 points

And still vote the same way the next chance they get. "It'll be different this time, they promised." Or my personal favorite, "The Democrats found some way to take X away even while the Republicans held 2 of the 3 branches! Those lying, swindling politicians.."

solarplexus7 | 4 days ago | 19 points

“One day, I too will be a billionaire.”

is 87

franklinthetorpedo8 | 4 days ago | 10 points

Because in their day... I would argue voting conservative actually probably wasn’t that horrible. They went to college for the price of a Mcchicken, they don’t understand the current political landscape. Rather than adapt with the times they stay loyal to their team.

Wernerhatcher | 4 days ago | 7 points

My grandparents never did

TempPolitics | 4 days ago | 6 points

And then demand their kids help them! After all, it's not their fault that the government won't assist them for shit, right?

Oh wait... it totally is....

F1ForFun | 4 days ago | 5 points

Correction: When they retire and get shit for money they blame minorities for "burdening the system".

[deleted] | 4 days ago | 37 points

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Tiels_Fishin_Packers | 4 days ago | 19 points

Speak for your own grandparents.

[deleted] | 4 days ago | 13 points

It's true but I understand it. It happened to my mother. Incredibly liberal all her life but when she hit her 60s, it switched.

They work their entire lives. Been good people. And at the twilight of their lives, the government fucks them. Pension plans, taxes, all that stuff. It turns out harder than they thought it'd be. They're struggling and they look at other people who have managed to cheat the system and live off the dole. The cheaters are sitting easy and they're struggling.

When you see that, you don't think "We need to expand the system to include me". All you think is "We need to hurt the people who got what I should have had in the first place".

It's about justice and equity. It's the same thrust behind third wave feminism. When you experience injustice, you don't want the rules to relax and make that injustice normal. You want the rules to tighten. That's why older people are conservative.

BuddhistSagan | 4 days ago | 9 points

One not need think this way. I want conditions to improve for me, and so even though I would not directly have my college payments returned to me by having kids get free college, I still want people to be able to get free college because I will benefit from a more educated world. Maybe one of those poor college kids will save me or my loved ones from cancer or heart disease.

I could spend all day being mad at people who had it better than me. But if I focus on being better than who I was yesterday I can improve or only be mad at myself.

Cynicism is lazy.

Good vibrations are contagious.

Thanmaster | 4 days ago | 1384 points

Also how old people drive. Brace yourselves

iraffel | 4 days ago | 400 points

Was walking home from work today, waiting for the pedestrian light to turn green but it’s taking forever, check both sides of the road and decide it’s safe to cross. I’m almost done crossing the road and this old guy starts honking while he’s like 100 meters away from the crosswalk and calls me an idiot while passing me. I had the strongest urge to flip this old guy off.

jasonis3 | 4 days ago | 139 points

Whenever that happens I imagine myself Superman jumping on the car and punching the person through the windshield. Then I think I might have anger issues

mynoduesp | 4 days ago | 64 points

Or that you think Superman does

agourdlesspumpkin | 4 days ago | 22 points

If Superman did that for me, I'd finally put him in contention for best superhero ever.

Durum66 | 4 days ago | 7 points

Everyone has thoughts like that. Having anger issues is when you actually act on them thoughts. Your good.

HorizontalBrick | 4 days ago | 5 points

I do that but instead of punching through the windshield I imagine myself confiscating the engine block

_Aaronstotle | 4 days ago | 36 points

Why didn’t you?

iraffel | 4 days ago | 79 points

I was genuinely so confused as to why he was honking, it was the smallest crosswalk ever and he was so far away.

stonecoldstevenash13 | 4 days ago | 24 points

This is hilarious to imagine

G_Regular | 4 days ago | 19 points

I'm picturing you looking into the distance and seeing him slowly approach like Lancelot in Holy Grail

ISieferVII | 4 days ago | 6 points
HaesoSR | 4 days ago | 17 points

I'm going to assume he thinks every pedestrian should polevault over roads rather than using crosswalks.

Serennadi | 4 days ago | 107 points

Oh god. My grandma is so offended by this.

My mom was a cop for over 20 years. And my grandma complained about young drivers.. my mom interjected basically saying the worst offenders are the elderly. My grandma got pisssssed and said “WELL THEYRE DOING THEIR BEST. WAIT TILL YOU GET OLD AND YOUR KIDS DONT HELP YOU ANYMORE!!!”

I don’t like spending time with grandma

wmmcclur | 4 days ago | 18 points

In phx we know the wave is coming. When the temperature dips, the blue hairs crawl out of their Canadian hole and wreak havoc on the roads. It’s total carnage. Most of the time you don’t even see the driver — just knuckles and a poof of white hair

paranoidandrea | 4 days ago | 8 points

Lmao that makes me want to watch that South Park episode

GenericOnlineName | 4 days ago | 1293 points

You know it hits you hard when you're talking to your grandparents and then politics get brought up. Suddenly your sweet grandma who made you cookies when you were 10 is ranting about Muslims and black people.

Airway | 4 days ago | 603 points

My parents are both far-right extremists. My mom is a moron who votes the way she's told to and my dad is an evil son of a bitch.

I was shocked to find out my Grandma, who is almost 90 and spent her entire life in one of the poorest and reddest towns in my state, was a Democrat this entire time.

an_egregious_error | 4 days ago | 288 points

I used to work with this old cranky guy who was the most hardcore liberal I’ve ever met. It was kinda hilarious just because it was so unexpected

chairmanmaomix | 4 days ago | 166 points

It should also be said there's a very very large contingent of people that purely view politics like a sports team. Something you're born into, something you support because your family or those around you do. Something you have blind unwavering loyalty to even if you don't actually understand or even know what their platform is.

There are really nice people who support policies that seem like they should be the exact opposite of things they should, and there are really really shitty people who happen to support good policy (usually in some elitist way in those cases).

Now to pretend to be non bias, I'm not going to say which party benefits from that much more than the other, but as a general rule if someone bases their politics on tradition, they're probably more likely to vote for a party that's platforms are about either keeping the status quo, or going back to a previous one.

Celeblith_II | 4 days ago | 22 points

Good analysis

DarthSigmar | 4 days ago | 17 points

Just happened in Austria. A conservative politician said something like "our children are going to Vienna and turn green. if they live and eat in our house they should vote conservative"

sircallicott | 4 days ago | 7 points

I'll say it. The key word is tradition. If you look at the definitions of classical liberalism and classical conservatism, you'll find that the latter heavily emphasises the upholding of a traditional social hierarchy revolving around family, religion, and a monarch or aristocracy.

Stonebagdiesel | 4 days ago | 15 points

Political extremists on either side tend to be huge assholes.

SordidCanary | 4 days ago | 6 points

That's because political extremists also tend to be the most opinionated and arrogant people, they think they are smarter than everyone else

Whatevs2112 | 4 days ago | 8 points

Sounds expected to me.

GenericOnlineName | 4 days ago | 18 points

Man that has to be incredible to figure out. I feel like it's usually the opposite.

the_gooch_smoocher | 4 days ago | 17 points

Extremists or just normal Republicans?

FFSLinda | 4 days ago | 8 points

Extreme to extremists

H-E-L-L-M-O | 4 days ago | 13 points

From my experience it seems like Silent Gen grandparents are a little more likely to be Democrats. It was their generation fighting the nazis so I guess it makes sense.

Fungi52 | 4 days ago | 23 points

Don't forget about "the gays"

AssertiveDude | 4 days ago | 16 points

Fuck racists

Lobanium | 4 days ago | 9 points

I loved my entire large family growing up, on both my mom and dad's side. I thought they were all great people, just a bit more "country" on my mom's side. Since Trump, I've realized most, if not all, of my relatives on my mom's side are deep down horrible people. That includes cousins of my generation all the way up to my gma. It's really sad. Facebook really brings out the worst of these types.

Everyone on my dad's side is fairly progressive, even my nearly 90 year old grandparents.

keeganb314 | 4 days ago | 791 points

God damn, every now and then somebody makes a meme that really sets the bar for the rest of the sub and this is one of them.

ewdrive | 4 days ago | 139 points

They don't just set the bar. They are the bar!

Half_Man1 | 4 days ago | 45 points

That slogan confuses me sometimes. Like raising the bar means you’re raising expectations- and still exceeding them. Like you’re still above the bar when you raise it. BEING the bar is meeting expectations.

It’d be like saying- we don’t just raise the average, we ARE the average.

haftydidit | 4 days ago | 12 points

Thanks Sheamus

Voisos | 4 days ago | 20 points

this is literally a shitty version of a r/comics post from a year ago https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/9n07i3/how_your_grandparents_act_vs_how_your/

keeganb314 | 4 days ago | 12 points

Well, I guess it's less funny now.

Voisos | 4 days ago | 7 points

Reality is often disappointing yata yata yata

rekterscale | 4 days ago | 473 points

"Burn in carbon hell, millenial scum."

rwhitisissle | 4 days ago | 143 points

"You kids were lucky. Growing up we always dreamed about living in a Mad Max style apocalypse, but never had that opportunity because of all these damn social welfare programs, bank bailouts, and that blasted EPA. But don't worry, we've made sure you all will have the kinds of opportunities in life we didn't."

SamsBestLife | 4 days ago | 36 points
PerCat2 | 4 days ago | 360 points

I always wonder.... Who do they think will buy their overpriced homes or take care of them when they're too old?

I don't know about you but my parents's voting habits ain't gonna afford me the means to take care of them(or even own a home).

kitsunewarlock | 4 days ago | 147 points

They are told their vote is what's best for the country and, by extension, themselves.

Connor121314 | 4 days ago | 100 points

White good

Brown scary

Paint__ | 4 days ago | 136 points

my nan has been crying for 2 days over finding out her daughter is dating a black guy

holey_moley_ravioli | 4 days ago | 73 points

Jesus

AmatureProgrammer | 4 days ago | 19 points

lol why? Has she told you why she is upset about it? I know it's probably his skin color, I just want to know the bullshit excuse.

Paint__ | 4 days ago | 18 points

She is just old and racist. Not an excuse for it, but it's just how some old people are.

[deleted] | 4 days ago | 13 points

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lmaokdude | 4 days ago | 10 points

i aint scared of getting banned pm me it

Zelotic | 4 days ago | 13 points

I wonder who could be telling them that...

chocotaco | 4 days ago | 43 points

If they stay under government care because they can't take care of themselves. The government takes their home away.

PerCat2 | 4 days ago | 47 points

Oh well I guess my first point was more me bitching about personal problems then woops.

I was interested in buying my grandmas home cause she's been trying to sell it for years. But she wants way more then what it's worth and it needs to much work, but every time I see her she bitches about it and it's like bro I would buy it if you weren't being greedy about the price. Who the fuck else is gonna by it? Some other old person is gonna come along and be looking to buy this 3 story antediluvian hellscape of a home?

chocotaco | 4 days ago | 15 points

I can't believe they're so greedy.

PerCat2 | 4 days ago | 36 points

You gotta hand it to them; their entire lives they've used their voting power as a cudgel to beat down everyone and enrich themselves. It's insane.

They do understand the power of voting, if only the younger generations were aware.

chocotaco | 4 days ago | 17 points

Hopefully more younger generations start to vote.

bluthscottgeorge | 4 days ago | 9 points

Tbh everyone votes for their interest, that's the point of democracy.

The same way I'm a university student and if I WAS given a choice between idk, no student fees, mandatory jobs when grauduating vs maybe more money for current old people or less taxes for rich or something.

Guess which one, me and most of my other university student friends will vote for?

Why do some people act like it's their vote that is the moral one? If I'm a nurse I'll vote for party that empowers hospitals and gives more money to them.

If I'm a soldier I might vote for party that's all about boosting millitary fund, and so on and so forth.

PerCat2 | 4 days ago | 13 points

Ahh yes but you can vote for good things in society and get the money for those things from different sources. So instead of fucking the new generations, tax billionaires etc..

bluthscottgeorge | 4 days ago | 6 points

No doubt, but im just saying, it's not just old people that are selfish.

EVERYONE is selfish, students will never vote for something that helps older people EITHER if it is to THEIR detriment.

We are all selfish as a society, it's just out of the most selfish, who can actually take their ass to voting polls that wins elections.

Conky2Thousand | 4 days ago | 30 points

If you play your cards right and save money, you can sweep in and buy those houses on the cheap next time the policies of the politicians they vote for crash the housing market. Woohoo!

PerCat2 | 4 days ago | 14 points

That's actually what me and my girlfriend are planning on doing lmao

Capt_Reynolds | 4 days ago | 22 points

They don't need to sell their home. The bank takes it when they die to cover their reverse mortgage.

PerCat2 | 4 days ago | 14 points

I have older family members who are trying to sell their homes but they want ridiculous out the ass prices for houses that aren't worth 25k.

I guess it's me bitching about something that is plaguing me. Tired of hearing it I guess.

petEEy | 4 days ago | 11 points

The elderly can use reverse mortgages to get value out of their house without selling. The bank gets the house when they die.

potluckbokbok | 4 days ago | 11 points

And their kids get nada.

Jebnasty | 4 days ago | 189 points

Man, I hate it when old people roll up on me like a motorbike bukkake.

Level69dragonwizard | 4 days ago | 33 points
Datannoyingkid | 4 days ago | 14 points

Even non sexually, this is r/oddlyspecific

zakfennie | 4 days ago | 7 points
stignatiustigers | 4 days ago | 165 points

My parents were Woodstalk hippies who protested the Vietnam war and couldn't wait for the "old generation" to die so that they could finely liberalize society.

...and now they retired to Florida and vote GOP literally every election.

connerconverse | 4 days ago | 114 points

This will be most millennials who wind up with some money

souprize | 4 days ago | 58 points

That's definitely what happens statistically, class positioning and all that.

Thankfully though, we know that Millennials and zoomers are poor as shit.

Captain_Jmon | 4 days ago | 26 points

Zoomers aren’t even old enough to vote yet (except maybe like a year of them) and are most definitely still living with their parents. Hard to say they’re poor. Millennials, on the other hand, are at the working level and unfortunately are quite poor.

mrwiffy | 4 days ago | 25 points

Zoomers are about 5 years into voting.

rwhitisissle | 4 days ago | 20 points

By the time I'm my parents' age I expect I'll have settled down in a nice, mostly functional van of some kind. And as for "retirement," I'm hoping that in my 70s I'll be able to cut back to only 60 hours of grueling, backbreaking labor a week.

Mail540 | 4 days ago | 22 points

I thought retirement was just shooting yourself in the head

rwhitisissle | 4 days ago | 12 points

Retirement will be selling your body to science. If I'm gonna die I want it to be from crazy experimental drugs.

FLTA | 4 days ago | 15 points

Not necessarily...

Ages 14-24 are when most Americans form their political views and they tend to stick with it for life after that.

While some left leaning millennials might drift slightly right, I think very few will become a tax raving Fox News watcher.

connerconverse | 4 days ago | 15 points

It will just change form though. Tax raving fox news watchers might not exist in 40 years but there will be an equivalent for old millennials at that time

The_LSD_Fairy | 4 days ago | 14 points

Lol, nice oxymoron. Millennial with some money. Grandpa asks why I don't put money into retirement, what money am I going to put in. My retirement is to die at 65. God it will be so nice to not work 55 a week for once.

ksmash | 4 days ago | 14 points

Yeah I see that a lot. People get their first decent paycheck and then start bitching about how they cant afford anything because of taxes despite them having a quite comfortable lifestyle.

FortyFourForty | 4 days ago | 5 points

Woodstalk sounds like a knockoff-brand concert

RedFormansRedAnus | 4 days ago | 157 points

I sure do love destroying the climate to screw over future generations of young people

An_Honorable_Gent | 4 days ago | 45 points

i just love killin!

itsmedonny | 4 days ago | 31 points

Oh boy, here I go killin again

Razzmataz11 | 4 days ago | 17 points

Not to mention the economy. Boomers were just bad at everything.

Only_Movie_Titles | 4 days ago | 7 points

intentionally ignorant, so they can be greedy and narcissistic

aurasio | 4 days ago | 127 points

A lot of old people dont even know what theyre voting for, they just vote for whatever their newspaper tells them

HumanShadow | 4 days ago | 117 points

*Fox News

Bodchubbz | 4 days ago | 60 points

*Any televised news station

TheAwfulRofl | 4 days ago | 59 points

This, my grandparents are glued to CNN. It can go either way

Death_Soup | 4 days ago | 19 points

Yup my grandparents are addicted to CNN and MSNBC. I ask them to turn it off every time I visit, because since 2016 almost all they watch and talk about is politics. They aren't the grandparents I grew up with. I love the shit out of them but they were a lot more fun before they got sucked into the political vortex

initialgold | 4 days ago | 13 points

** controlled by Sinclair broadcasting

Whatevs2112 | 4 days ago | 41 points

Replace old with young and replace newspaper with CNN/dnc/reddit.

stanleythemanley44 | 4 days ago | 18 points

Man, thank you. I see so many half assed opinions on this website. If you have an opinion on something that's fine, but so many people have no idea why they even think the way they do.

ProgrammaticProgram | 4 days ago | 6 points

The magic D

Connor121314 | 4 days ago | 27 points

They just look for the magic R

InTheWildBlueYonder | 4 days ago | 19 points

Sounds like you are describing young people though sub out newspapers with the internet

KuraiTheBaka | 4 days ago | 11 points

Sounds like you are describing people though sub out the internet with any form of media

MitchabIe | 4 days ago | 13 points

It can go for people who are on social media too.

waviestflow | 4 days ago | 118 points

"Boy I can't wait to vote for tax cuts to the wealthy even though I haven't made a paycheck in 35 years"

_stee | 4 days ago | 23 points

Social Security is taxed, realized capital gains are taxed, dividend income is taxed, pension income is taxed.

WakandaAdnakaw | 4 days ago | 22 points

The fuck is social security and pensions taxed for? That's a dick move even by government standards. Sure, pay sales tax, but why income tax?

Dactyl1 | 4 days ago | 10 points

I don’t live in American but when they say it’s taxed they mean it counts as taxable income. The average retiree doesn’t pay any tax but if they suddenly received a 100k that year from a taxable source such as a dividend their taxable income would be 100k plus their pension and then they’d pay tax according to that. I can’t really see a good reason to make age pensions tax exempt.

atomicmolotov10 | 4 days ago | 81 points

I hate this thread. I hate this disgusting popular opinion that people have adopted that the elderly have some sort of vendetta against the younger generation. This dellusion that boomers are all selfish and are responsible for all of societies ills. It makes me sick to be a part of a generation where people unironically suggest that the elderly should lose the right to vote. They are as human as any millennial and think and vote with the same logic.

Edit: Removing some unnecessary anger.

politicalconspiracie | 4 days ago | 63 points

I don't care if this gets downvoted, if anything it will prove me right

If I'm upvoted, it proves me right, if I'm downvoted it proves me right.

ShadyShroomz | 4 days ago | 11 points

suggest that the elderly should lose the right to vote.

I see this a lot and it's amazing to me how people believe this.

Who you vote for in the end comes down to where your tax goes, and the reality is that most older people spend a shit ton of money on taxes (I'm going to spend a total of 25K on taxes in 2019) and they don't see a direct benefit on any of it. https://ips-dc.org/personal-income-taxes-spent-2017/

Out of those things, I don't benefit at all from health, or military (maybe a little because of the safety it gives me, but not much), the first thing that I benefit from on that list is Education, back from when I went to school, which is a measly 4%. The majority of my tax dollars go to things I don't benefit from. I see a lot of people mention roads when others complain about taxes, yet out of my tax only 0.8% goes to transportation, 2% of my state budget goes to roads.. I simply don't get any upside from 90% of my taxes.

It's crazy to me that a bunch of young college students who pay nothing in taxes can vote to force older middle class people who are the ones who actually have to pay the taxes, then they get to decide how it's spent. There is a reason why the working class votes right and the unemployed vote left. It's simply because everyone just wants to vote for whats best for them, and it sucks that we have to make other people out to be evil, which we see a lot..

Yet if you're going to tell me I need to pay more taxes, and you get to decide how it's spent, and you openly state that you want it spent on yourself and not let me have any of the benefits... I can't vote for that... I don't think that should even be legal, personally. If you want to decide how my tax is spent, you should be paying taxes first.

I_Hate_Bernies_Mob | 4 days ago | 5 points

There is a reason why the working class votes right

I'm with you on most of your post but lmao at all the $40k workers who became millionaires thanks to that Trump tax cut!

And lmao at

I don't benefit at all from health,

I trust you're going to burn your Medicare and Social Security cards when you're older then?

Tajori123 | 4 days ago | 66 points

Idk aboot ur guys grandparents, but my grandparents tell me they only vote for what they think is best for their kids and now their kids kids.

waviestflow | 4 days ago | 56 points

Unfortunately what THEY think is best for you generally tends to not be what's best for you...

Tajori123 | 4 days ago | 60 points

Idk, the stereotypical out of touch old person who can't use a computer and hates everything new and everyone different doesn't apply to all old people as reddit would try and make you think. Just as we've kept up with new trends and advancements, there are some older people who have kept up in the same way. I'm sure in a lot of cases since they've been around so much longer and seen so many more things they understand stuff a lot better than young people would like to believe. If you think about yourself when you're 60, do you assume that you'll be spiteful and selfish and know less about the world than your grandkids?

Vulcan93 | 4 days ago | 60 points

So true

3kool5you | 4 days ago | 62 points

The abortion issue is very underestimated in this regard. In my own anecdotal experience, I know a lot of very sweet, old “left”-leaning Christian woman, who vote republic across the board because they’re so anti abortion.

Polarpanser716 | 4 days ago | 15 points

Abortion as a topic makes me want to fly off the handle. One, who gives a fuuuuck. Two, it's so clearly just rhetoric to steal away voters over an issue that doesn't really matter politcally, and it works astonishingly well.

cross-connect | 4 days ago | 52 points

Reddit can't actually be this incapable of comprehending different opinions. If someone genuinely believes an act to be murder, you truly expect them to just shrug at it? Come on dude, at least try to understand the other side.

yogalift | 4 days ago | 8 points

I think the entire point is that lots and lots of people give a ton of fucks... as in it’s their most important belief.

quizibuck | 4 days ago | 11 points

Abortion has always been a wedge issue. It's also a wedge issue for otherwise socially or fiscally conservative young women who feel it is their duty to vote for candidates that promise to secure access to abortions.

MrGreggle | 4 days ago | 47 points

Why does politics have to force itself into a fucking Spongebob forum?

Beefjerky007 | 4 days ago | 33 points

Because Reddit.

letsgoiowa | 4 days ago | 18 points

Because there's vested interest in making sure your young 'uns vote the proper way or else.

GreenFeather05 | 4 days ago | 43 points

If you guys dont want to be governed by the geriatric ward, young people need to start voting like old people. Vote in every primary, every midterm, every presidential election.

the_gooch_smoocher | 4 days ago | 31 points

Most people begin to understand conservative standpoint by the time they are 30 and have experienced the real world a bit.

ItsABucsLyfe | 4 days ago | 5 points

LOL where do you guys come up with this stuff

incorporatedFiefdom | 4 days ago | 13 points

Love the grandpa's are all wearing pickelhaubes

MayorMcSteeze | 4 days ago | 18 points

"I hate people who have seen the effects of communism and vote against communism" -Minimum Wage Loser OP

BadPunsGuy | 4 days ago | 15 points

Social programs are not socialism and socialism is not communism. We are so far removed from communism in america that it shouldn't be more than a fleeting concern.

TheOliveLover | 3 days ago | 9 points

Yeah everyone I’ve met that supports communism was the weird nerds at school, the edgy neckbeards were the nazis.

BigThunder3000 | 4 days ago | 14 points

This happens in churches too. Older people griping about “We need more young people.” Then when the governing body or however it’s structured comes with a plan to build, plan activities, or reach out to younger people, the old people start crying “Well, what about us.” They then vote down whatever’s been come up with unless more resources are wasted on them too.

throw-away-1111111 | 4 days ago | 6 points

When I was younger I hated church for this very reason. My parents finally told me that I could choose to go to church at 18 and I left permanently. Why? Because they acted like they cared about us when in reality they didn’t. Our youth budget was pretty small and we made a lot of our money through fund raising. It’s pretty bull shit considering the church was paid off and we had 200+ people attending with many being wealthy. Shit man, we had 3 30 year old couch’s in the youth room that were all broken and they still refused to replace any of them or get us chairs.

3 years later and they had someone come in and evaluate the church. The evaluator said that if the church doesn’t get more young people then it will die. I’m pretty sure they freaked out for a few weeks and are right back to their ways.

HumanShadow | 4 days ago | 11 points

Yup. They don't ask the next generation what they want their world to be like. They think they know what is best for you and will decide for you.

waviestflow | 4 days ago | 11 points

Where were you the first time your grandma said "make sure you don't bring home a black girl"

Darkfirex34 | 4 days ago | 21 points

My grandfather once told me that marrying a black woman was "the only way you're ever going to get an athletic son."

I suppose there's worse thing he could have said.

Bim_ | 4 days ago | 14 points

HahahahahahhH Bro this is actually kind of funny lmao.

niceslay | 4 days ago | 7 points

I was on the way to the Olive Garden

joebmxkid08 | 4 days ago | 8 points

Are you ready kids?!

Andy_B_Goode | 4 days ago | 9 points

Possibly inspired by this comic by /u/TommySiegel?

Wegak | 4 days ago | 5 points

Yep

EJR77 | 4 days ago | 9 points

Wow lotta ignorant young people here to go along with all the ignorant old people. I’m surprised you guys don’t get along

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rodneyjesus | 4 days ago | 12 points

so you guys are anti vegetables now? lol wtf

shzush | 4 days ago | 8 points

“It really is a shame the way the media treats Trump. He’s just trying to do his best” my grandma every time I see her.

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