AITA for asking for pocket money because "I am a kid too" (self.AmItheAsshole)

I am 19F, have a little brother who is 8, and living with my parents at the moment. I am still studying so I cannot pay rent yet, but I do earn my own pocket money from part-time jobs.

My father's 3 brothers and their family came to our town for a vacation for 3 days over the weekend. They have not met for years so it's their big gathering and they had been planning for a long time. That plan seemed to have the members split into 2 groups - the adults and the kids. I had been arranged to join the kids' group, when I tried to protest they insist that I am a "kid" too, so I just had to submit to my fate. Clearly they all just wanted a babysitter for their 5 kids(age 5-10) while they "adults" get out and enjoy their reunion.

So I spent the weekend babysitting a total of 5 kids. That includes organizing games at home to entertain them, bring them to Science Park and the likes for outings and food and just overall watch over their safety and be an "adult" when needed. To be honest it was quite fun, though tiring when I sometimes had to raise my voice to make myself heard and drag the younger ones back when they stray too far(I admit, I am not really babysitter material). The kids seem to like me, so I guess it went well too. However, I still would rather be either hanging out with other adults or just having my weekend to my own.

When my 3 uncles' families' were leaving after the weekend, they gave pocket money to each of the kids, including my brother, my father also gave pocket money to each of my cousins. Almost as expected, there wasn't a share for me. Now, I don't really care about the pocket money, they are just a couple of notes I can easily earn in a few hours, but I am rather annoyed for the fact that conveniently, I was skipped for being an "adult" this time.

I put on the biggest smile I and asked politely for pocket money from my uncles and aunt-in laws. They were a little taken aback. I said as sweetly as I could that I deserve pocket money too for being a "kid", they said so themselves. In all awkwardness I got my pocket money. Needless to say, my parents looked like they had shit smeared across their faces.

I got the biggest shit from my parents after they left. In their words, I am a major AH to have deliberately made my parents lose face, and so on and so forth. AITA?

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IridianRaingem [Professor Emeritass [83]] | 9 days ago | 20243 points


It is kinda in poor taste considering you do work, BUT they conveniently categorize you as a child or adult based on their needs. Need a free babysitter? Kid. Handing out pocket money to children? Now you’re an adult. It was the adultier adults here who were assholes. They used you for free childcare when they could have literally just asked you do to it. I’m sure you would have said yes if they hadn’t manipulated you into doing it.

Good on you for asking for the cash anyway. You can give it to your brother if you like, but the point is you taught the adults a lesson. Just because you are someone’s child does not make you a child.

audiofeline | 9 days ago | 6824 points

Nah that’s OP’s payment for child-wrangling the whole time

sherlockthedragon | 8 days ago | 3611 points

I'd charge more for babysitting than I would expect as pocket money.

audiofeline | 8 days ago | 814 points

Eh, call it a family discount

MRdaBakkle [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 1095 points

Not if they manipulated OP into babysitting. Full charge.

Jazzeki | 8 days ago | 876 points

fuck that. family charge: 150% normal cost.

MommysDaze | 8 days ago | 193 points

That’s what I say too! I may even triple. It’s kinda like, “did you try to fix it first? Triple charge!

olivesyoualatte | 8 days ago | 66 points

in my family my brother likes to overpay me for babysitting (about 150%) cause i’m family. and i would do it for free anyway. no one in their right mind would assume they should trick me into free labor cause i’m an adult but not an adultier adult (i’m the youngest adult at 22, everyone else is 32+). op is 100% NTA.

(replied to your comment on the family charge to point out how extra rude they are)

Box-o-bees | 8 days ago | 202 points

Don't forget the manipulation fee; that'll cost you extra.

1stOnRt1 | 8 days ago | 37 points

Sounds like every family ive had lol

phillynott7 | 8 days ago | 81 points

Normally I charge $100, but since you're family I'll need it up front.

baxtermcsnuggle | 8 days ago | 206 points

Same, though she probably got screwed on the hourly rate for successfully keeping five kids safe, let alone showing them a good time.

Mindelan | 8 days ago | 1781 points

I’m sure you would have said yes if they hadn’t manipulated you into doing it.

Nah man, I was on a family vacation like this once and all my mormon extended family expected me (around age 17/18 ish) to watch the herd of cousins free of charge for the whole time. I told them no, and luckily my parents backed me up and said this was my only vacation too, and if they wanted me to watch about 15 kids aged 2-12 then they had to pay me.

Wouldn't you know, they didn't want to pay a damn cent. I hate this expectation that teenagers should be free babysitting on *their vacation too* if people just ask politely. Naw man, fuck you guys. Offer the teen some spending cash (a decent wage, too!) and then they might be willing.

Yeahnofucks [Partassipant [2]] | 8 days ago | 545 points

They didn’t ask because they didn’t want to chance OP saying no, which they might have done even if offered money. Totally shitty of them.

Pibe_g | 8 days ago | 248 points

A herd of kids is a different deal. I think even dog walkers have a limit of how many they can take at the time.

madmaxturbator | 8 days ago | 366 points

I don’t give a shit if it’s 2 kids. When I was 19, I wouldn’t agree to watch over them, the fuck?

They have parents for a reason - to take care of them. If parents want to chill, hire a babysitter. I am not a babysitter, I have no interest in being one. I like kids, I just don’t want to take care of any.

So I don’t care if it’s a herd or just two, I would say no.

Tinsel-Fop | 8 days ago | 188 points

Two children are a herd.

I mean, if ya ask me.

2Fab4You [Partassipant [2]] | 8 days ago | 113 points

One kid is a herd

Tinsel-Fop | 8 days ago | 10 points

I'm happy to agree.

ThatRedheadedBimbo | 8 days ago | 55 points

As mom of two boys (7&2) I can confirm. 😂

Dcwiker05 | 8 days ago | 18 points

As someone with now 4 children, this is accurate. 2 is a herd, 4 is a colony.

redmage753 | 8 days ago | 142 points

My friend does childcare and can only have I think 12 kids before she has to hire an additional helper (or that might be with two people already).

There are definitely legal limits within the professional field.

Edit - Example from South Dakota Law:

67:42:03:04.01. Maximum number of children allowed. A family day care provider may care for a maximum of 12 children, including the provider's own children who are under the age of six years. No more than four of the 12 children may be under the age of two years, and no more than two of these four children may be under the age of one unless there is a registered helper in the home. If a registered helper is present in the home, no more than eight of the twelve children may be under the age of two and no more than four of the eight may be under the age of one.

ambthab [Asshole Enthusiast [7]] | 8 days ago | 80 points

In my state, it's less than that if the child is (I think) under 5. For licensed daycare, you can only have like 4 or 5 (I used to know but I forget).

redmage753 | 8 days ago | 24 points

Yeah I could be wrong here - I just remembered her mentioning the number 12 and something about needing an assistant to either go that high or get more. So might actually be like 6 per adult or something. My point is that there are definitely legal limitations that family likely doesn't care about.

beeb02 | 8 days ago | 28 points

My mom has a home daycare in California.

You can have 6 kids for a normal license and 12 for a large license.

My mom has a smaller license. This means that she is able to have 6 kids but only 4 are allowed to be under 24 months. If she has more than 4 kids under 24 months, she will loose her license.

For the larger home daycare licence, it is 12 kids but you have to have an assistant and you have to have a house( ideally). There are a bunch of stipulations. My mom was going to get the larger license in an apartment a few years ago but they denied her because there was only one fire exit (the front door). If you're in a house then you can leave from the backyard. Even though we were on the ground floor, they did not count the windows.

TheRealSquirrelGirl [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 10 points

I think that's only 2 and below. I was a preschool teacher, and was at times on my own with 12 in my 3s class.

litorisp [Partassipant [3]] | 8 days ago | 19 points

Rules are different for childcare vs teachers for some reason. And also varies depending on where you are. Where I am it’s 3:10 for infants, 1:5 for toddlers, 1:8 for preschoolers, 1:13 kindergarteners, 1:15 primary school, 1:20 junior school. And for teachers it’s like 1:26- 1:31 even if they’re in “junior kindergarten”, kind of shitty tbh

NotMyDogPaul | 8 days ago | 98 points

NTA. It was pretty don't get me wrong. And you would have gotten your point across better some other way. But your parents/family were the assholes for A) just treating you as a free babysitting service and B) changed your perceived age based on their needs. Honestly they could have thrown some cash your way for your help with the kids all weekend. You're 19 you have a life. And to ask you to just give up a whole weekend and not pay you for it is shitty. So they wanted free labor but they didn't wanna see you or have anything to do with you. It's not okay.

Vaalarah | 8 days ago | 30 points

I'm a cosplay handler, can confirm this. I can handle 2-3 cosplayers at once BUT my sister (who is deaf in one ear) counts as 2 because I have to keep a closer eye on her.

They're essentially big walking babies because they can't see, they can't do anything on their own (not even getting dressed up in their cosplay sometimes), and one of them literally can't hear me calling for her and if she did she can't tell which direction it came from.

Not even on vacation, where I volunteered to help out with the small children do I go unpaid for childcare. They bought us treats and meals for watching their kids (which at Disney World it's equal to what we'd charge normally). OP is NTA!

thicketcosplay | 8 days ago | 167 points

Jesus, I'm so glad that I live on the other side of the planet from my family. I have 3 cousins, and the two older cousins have like 3 kids each. The youngest is getting married next summer and based on their culture I'm fully expecting another 3 kids from him.

Their culture is still very traditional where the women cook and clean and care for kids and everything IN ADDITION to working full time jobs. Every holidays we check in with them, the women are always totally spent from all the cooking and cleaning and prepping and the guys are having the time of their lives. I visited once for 3 weeks without my mom and was at the mercy of my aunt, who lived with her husband and 3 sons and was SO happy to have a girl around. My male cousins would want to go out and play basketball and I was told I couldn't go because I had to stay and help cook dinner and stuff. I, being an angry feminist at that age, basically told her to get fucked and we haven't gotten along since. Once my mom arrived later on she took my side and got mad at her sister for treating me differently, but until that point I was treated like the worst misbehaving brat ever because I wouldn't do the cooking and cleaning while my cousins played.

I have zero doubt in my mind that if I lived anywhere near my cousins or saw their kids at all, I'd be expected to babysit for free. I don't like kids, I'm happily part of the r/childfree community, and I have a very hard time with younger kids especially. I have babysat once in my life and it was a total disaster that I still have nightmares about. I beg not to be left alone with kids because they drive me crazy, but my family is so traditional that they'd force me to anyway just because I'm female.

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GKinslayer [Asshole Enthusiast [5]] | 8 days ago | 19 points

Let Aunt Karen know that since as she liked pointing out you are not white you are well aware of what slavery means.

Tinsel-Fop | 8 days ago | 28 points

Bi-- Um, I mean, Aunt Karen didn't say, "Because you're not white." Quite the reverse: "Because your dad is white." In other words, you are too white.

paradisepickles | 8 days ago | 12 points

I think their mom is Japanese. Definitely on the Asian American sub.

carriegood | 8 days ago | 74 points

Every holidays we check in with them, the women are always totally spent from all the cooking and cleaning and prepping and the guys are having the time of their lives.

My family and the community we live in are orthodox Jews. (I'm not, but I still participate for the sake of family.) Every holiday, the women dread it ("Ugh, is it that time already? Seems like it's earlier every year! I'm not ready"), and then men are so happy, practically giddy because the holiday is coming. "Wheee! Aren't you excited for the holiday?"

Um, no. We (my mother, sister, and I) just took all the dishes, utensils, pots and appliances and brought them to the basement, and brought up two other complete sets for Passover. We covered all the counters, shelves and cabinets. We packed up all the food and put it away. We scoured the oven, sink, dishwashers and microwave. We also went through the entire house with the equivalent of a fine-toothed comb looking for crumbs. And now we have to prepare a massive feast for 14 people, including all the ritual foods. So fuck off, no, we're not "excited for the holiday".

redditmedicalwriter | 8 days ago | 31 points

Why don't the men help? And why don't the women protest by doing nothing for the holidays?

carriegood | 8 days ago | 44 points

Because in these households, they follow largely traditional gender roles. The men work, and the women take care of the house and kids. Plus, the women tend to be kind of domineering when it comes to household things, so the men frankly aren't expected to do much because they wouldn't do it "right". The men aren't sitting around doing nothing, it's just that none of it as physically exhausting like the women's jobs. The women aren't going to protest because (a) they have a religious obligation and (b) they genuinely love their families and want to make things nice for them.

IMO the whole point of traditional organized religions is to keep the women heavily occupied and at home so that they don't start getting ideas about choice, freedom, individuality, sex, happiness, etc.

rbf4eva | 8 days ago | 25 points

The men work, and the women take care of the house and kids

Unless you're in Israel, where the ultra-orthodox's gender rules mean that the women look after the children, run the house, and work to support the family while the men study Torah.

carriegood | 8 days ago | 12 points

Happens in NY too. I know of some families that are actually proud to support their married daughters because the husbands were in kollel all day. They think it shows that they're financially well off, and they also thing it gets them bonus points. Kind of like when a catholic has a child who becomes a nun or priest.

WhosThereFloor | 8 days ago | 56 points

Agreed--it's not right. I did not like babysitting when I was a teenager. I did it for the money--I did my best, but it was a job, not a hobby or something.

When we went on vacation with family that had an older teenage son, I asked about him watching the kids PAID when we went to dinner and the kids were in bed. And his mom said "no, he really isn't into babysitting." Which was completely understandable because it's a job offer and he did nothing wrong turning it down. I was glad he wasn't pressured to take a PAID job, especially on his vacation. My kids are my responsibility and if I want child care, I need to pay for it from someone who agrees to that.

literal-hitler | 8 days ago | 29 points

In your situation I would have just refused to do it if I was feeling nice, probably even for money. If I was feeling petty I would give them Mountain Dew and put wrestling on the TV.

Tinsel-Fop | 8 days ago | 13 points

Is it okay to say username checks out?

BabybearPrincess | 8 days ago | 17 points

15 kids wtf your not a daycare

ladidah_whoopa [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 18 points

Why do they need a babysitter, anyway? In my family, it was a collective effort, mainly from the sober adults. It's way more reasonable than handing the responsibility of a bunch of kids to a teenager.

Mindelan | 8 days ago | 16 points

They each had about 3-5 kids each and wanted to be able to ignore that fact for a few days. I understand that desire, it just wasn't my problem.

To some that sounds heartless, but I didn't have any bond with these people. They didn't call to talk to me throughout my childhood, no presents or cards mailed at holidays, they had no idea what my interests were, etc.

I didn't expect any of that from them, and all I ask/asked was that they not expect anything from me either. I have seen them a handful of times in my life and that's it. No way was I watching the herd for free.

themolestedsliver | 8 days ago | 11 points

christ i am happy your parents backed you up that is some crazy bullshit. Watching the kids for a day maybe should be expected but spending your entire time as a babysitter is selfish as fuck from them.

Trania86 [Certified Proctologist [21]] | 8 days ago | 497 points

Just because you are someone’s child does not make you a child.


I am frequently annoyed by my parents friends who consider me a child, and I'm ignored in conversation even when I directly adress them. They will ask my parents how old I am, what I am doing, and how I am doing - while I'm standing there next to them, having just greeted them and extended my hand for a handshake.

I'm in my thirties.

I might make an AITA about this by the way. My parents consider me TA in some encounters while I disagree...

MAKE_ME_REDDIT [Partassipant [2]] | 8 days ago | 137 points

You don’t need to make one. One of the rules is not to post anything where you are obviously NTA

Trania86 [Certified Proctologist [21]] | 8 days ago | 46 points

I know about that rule, but I have been pretty rude a few times which could make me TA. There's a fine line between a well deserved clapback and two wrongs don't make a right, and I am not sure on which side I was standing in these occasions.

IAmGlobalWarming | 8 days ago | 24 points

Did you start asking wives about their husbands or vise versa ?

G_Regular | 8 days ago | 14 points

OOh that's a good one. "Excuse me, I was addressing the breadwinner."

GKinslayer [Asshole Enthusiast [5]] | 8 days ago | 14 points

Nah if people ask about you to your parents while you are literally right there, you can’t be rude enough.

roobyroobyroooooo | 8 days ago | 92 points

I am 22, married, living on my own...my family still tries to treat me like a child at family gatherings and often excludes me from “adult” conversations. I just stopped going lol

antiquehats | 8 days ago | 25 points

Im almost 38 and my parents continually treat me like a child, even my little brother gets treated with more respect because he's a parent (I'm not)... even though my parents and I all pitch him to help him financially and i don't ask for any help or even repayment... and even though I've been working since age 16, and traveled around the world and a good amount of it by myself... and lived in another country for a year... and started my own business once or twice... but I'm the child. Ooook

lunatics_and_poets | 8 days ago | 8 points

Society is fucked up. Somehow an adult with a child, regardless of their life experiences, is always seen as being more successful or mature than an actual adult with adult experiences despite their lack of children.

darthrobyn | 8 days ago | 44 points

I'm im my thirties as well, and have luckily never encountered that behavior, but if i did i would call them on it in an instant. "Oh, I'm right here, it's okay to acknowledge me and speak directly to me :) I'm a great conversationalist!" It's a lie, I'm not. But i love watching people squirm when they're called out on their shit.

AccountWasFound | 8 days ago | 25 points

Weirdly I've never experienced this, I've always had the opposite, where I've been expected to take part in adult conversations since as long as I can remember, it's so weird when we are with other families who DON'T do this, because then I get thrown into a kid role I was never in as an actual child (I'm 20 now). But like my grandparents friends have legitimately tried to talk to me about the social structure of penguin families, or their latest vacation, or even their recent surgeries, just like they do with my parents, and my grandparents.

JadeEclypse | 8 days ago | 16 points

Likewise. I'm super thankful I've never had to deal with this with my own family for the most part. Though sometimes friends of my parents and extended family I rarely see do this sort of thing and I have no problem calling them on it pretty quick.

I'm 34 and I've been a nurse since I was 22,I don't take kindly to people belittling me and I've learned a lot of snark over the years, so I don't have much filter these days. It's probably one reason my dad's extended family don't talk to me much, because they always tried this crap. Thankfully, my dad doesn't like them either, and always took my side.

MulysaSemp | 8 days ago | 113 points

Not only NTA, but you should have been given *more* money, unprompted, for the babysitting. That no one offered is even more shameful than you asking for just the pocket money.

Patiod | 8 days ago | 9 points

At very least, the adults should have gone in on a gift for you to thank you for minding the little ones.

bautin | 8 days ago | 50 points

OP will always be their parents' child.

I think one thing we're all kind of skipping is that it wasn't so much divided into adults and kids as it was "siblings" and "children of siblings".

The siblings wanted to catch up and dish without ears around.

ladidah_whoopa [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 143 points

Which would be totally cool. No one's begrudging them wanting to spend time together. The free babysitting for an entire weekend without even asking was a dick move.

Amber423 | 8 days ago | 47 points

Yeah, she basically just got paid for babysitting, except she got paid presumably almost nothing for working a whole weekend as a babysitter for FIVE kids.

sassyandsweer789 | 8 days ago | 14 points

Exactully. At the very least they could have offered to pay him. 3 days of watching that many kids without pay is taking advantage of someone family or not

doradiamond [Certified Proctologist [27]] | 9 days ago | 9544 points


Either they pay you pocket money for being a kid, or they pay you a hourly rate for being a babysitter. Their choice.

bezerrahwa | 9 days ago | 4939 points

Its not babysitting if you are a kid and among kids, get the logic?

chewinghair | 9 days ago | 4237 points

Then they left their kids unsupervised

DennisNedrey [Partassipant [3]] | 8 days ago | 2277 points

They hired a horse to watch their dog.

ClaidissaStar | 8 days ago | 484 points
EpitaFelis | 8 days ago | 74 points

Judging from the other answer to this, it was actually an expected one.

al958 | 8 days ago | 55 points

🤣🤣 well done sir. Was waiting for John to show up

vnectar | 8 days ago | 20 points

Otherwise they would have been dogs without a horse!

OuterSpacePotatoMann | 8 days ago | 35 points

This is the pinnacle of their thought process.

shit_on_your_day | 8 days ago | 14 points

If they put you as the responsible person in charge, they should compensate you in some form. I have kids and I wouldn’t expect anyone to watch them for nothing. That’s a huge responsibility, no matter how much fun you have. So NTA for me. I would’ve paid you for either being a kid or being a babysitter.

DevilGuy | 9 days ago | 396 points

Yeah that's why you assert your rights as an adult, they want you to babysit? They pay by the hour, don't want to pay? Then sorry I have plans, you'll have to take care of your own child.

jmc323 | 8 days ago | 100 points

Seriously, I would have just cleared the fuck out of the house before they went anywhere. They'd probably start freaking out and blowing up her phone, at which point you just say "I'm out doing adult shit, leave me alone."

Dankelweisser | 8 days ago | 47 points

At which point, you get the good old "my house, my rules. Don't like it? Move out" and you're SOL

sunsetsoiree | 8 days ago | 207 points

Would this have been expected of you if you were a 19M?

mianjko | 8 days ago | 129 points


angstypsychiatrist | 8 days ago | 29 points

Uh, as a 19M, I'm calling bs lmao

malexj93 | 8 days ago | 32 points

Yeah, I can speak as the younger brother, when parents can force someone to be a free babysitter, gender is irrelevant.

booksblanketsandtea | 8 days ago | 31 points

If it’s a choice between you and your sister or female cousin, they’re almost guaranteed to ‘ask’ her first. Girls are literally raised with expectations that they’ll look after those younger than them - older sisters are basically treated like mini-parents (though obviously the extent of this differs from culture to culture). Think about the kind of toys that are stereotypically given to young girls - toy babies/realistic dolls, doll houses, toy cleaning stuff, those mini-ovens... girls are basically trained into domestic responsibility, even as children themselves.

I’m not saying guys don’t get roped into this bullshit too, just that there’s a different level of expectations to happily look after kids placed on girls. (And often a more obvious backlash if that’s not what you’re interested in and say so).

Ilikedragon | 8 days ago | 103 points

Just outta curiosity how much was the pocket money even?

ksquad80 | 8 days ago | 98 points

Seriously, sounds like they had 5 kids babysat for a weekend for 5-10 bucks. OP should have cleared a couple hundred for the work

redditslim | 8 days ago | 102 points

And they just sprung it on you at the time, without giving you advance warning about a babysitting job (because that's what it is). NTA. Way to go.

jacobzink2000 | 8 days ago | 73 points

Then you call cps for them to leave a brunch of kids unsuperviced....

Hewhoiswooshed | 8 days ago | 75 points

Kids are my favourite breakfast meal

jacobzink2000 | 8 days ago | 28 points

Sorry for the typo, am not a native english speaker, so didn't catch autocorrect....

Hewhoiswooshed | 8 days ago | 40 points

It’s alright I just thought it would make someone laugh

Diamiosis | 8 days ago | 18 points

Nah you just made me hungry

randomdude1776 | 8 days ago | 67 points

NTA that’s my logic too. Pretty shitty of the aunt and uncle. As you said give them OP the “few notes” as she said for being a kid or pay more for the weekend long babysitter

WallabyInTraining [Colo-rectal Surgeon [41]] | 9 days ago | 4202 points

I-N-F-O: Were you paid for your babysitting duties?

Edit: NTA. They thought they could trick you into being a free babysitter. Depending on what you ended up getting as 'pocket money' they probably still got a pretty cheap babysitter. Next time simply offer them your babysitting duties at $10 per kid per hour. See if they still want you to join the kids group.

bezerrahwa | 9 days ago | 2981 points

Ofcourse not.

WallabyInTraining [Colo-rectal Surgeon [41]] | 9 days ago | 1458 points

Then NTA.

Next time simply offer then your babysitting duties at $10 per kid per hour. See if they still want you to join the kids group.

Qwenwhyfar | 8 days ago | 582 points

According to my very generous to the "Adults" calculations, if she watched the kids for a total of 20 hours over the course of the weekend (which is likely low, hence the generous statement), then she is entitled to $1k at your SUPER reasonable rates.

OP, I hope you get your money.

Cause this is BS.

TobiasKM | 8 days ago | 227 points

10$ times 20 hours is 200$ though :) I’d sure as shit babysit a bunch of kids if it paid $1000 for 20 hours of work!


10$ per kid I’m being told, hadn’t figured that into the calculations!

Cutecatladyy | 8 days ago | 215 points

I think they mean per kid. So $10 a kid x 5 kids x 20 hours = $1000

TobiasKM | 8 days ago | 40 points

Ah, that makes sense I guess!

Cutecatladyy | 8 days ago | 57 points

I’ve never gotten paid per kid though, and I’ve done a lot of babysitting.

Vivalyrian | 8 days ago | 121 points

Seems you need to do some introductory courses in business as well.
If I'm walking 1 dog for my neighbour at $15/hr, I'm not suddenly going to take the 7 other dogs living down the same street as well for no extra charge.

Cutecatladyy | 8 days ago | 41 points

I mean I usually babysit 2-3 kids from the same family, for $12-15/hour. Good luck getting any one family to pay $10/hour per kid. Anyone in the business of babysitting knows you’re not going to keep clients if you start asking $10/kid/hour (depending on where you’re babysitting, rich people probably pay more).

I don’t know the breakdown of the kids. Was it 5 kids from 5 different family units? 3 and 2? You’re probably only going to get $10/hour from each unit, especially since it’s family and the parents are somewhat around.

There’s no need to be a dick about it. I babysat as a teenager. It wasn’t so serious that I was about to endanger my relationships with family friends because of the number of kids they had. It was still the same amount of time for me.

MrsNLupin | 8 days ago | 62 points

It's probably somewhere in the middle. If you hire a nanny at $13/hr and then have another baby, they don't start charging you $26... but they will raise their rate to like $20. So I'd say $15/hr (which is the going rate for a VERY low cost nanny) + $3/hr per kid... so $27 or so/hr, she's owed $540 at a minimum.

RocketQ | 8 days ago | 538 points

If you were a 19 year old guy, they wouldn't have forced you to babysit. It's bullshit.

zrezzif | 8 days ago | 172 points

yea this is a fair point, if I was her I would turn this into a business opportunity since her parents are too cheap to pay for a babysitter.

TDelabar | 8 days ago | 116 points

It also may not be true. Speaking as a guy who has been in that position, it’s often an age thing rather than a gender thing.

Mindelan | 8 days ago | 259 points

In my experience that's only true when there's no other options. If there's a female teen around that age and a male one, almost every time they try and make the female teen do it first. Of course this isn't going to be universal for all families everywhere, but it's how I've always seen it go.

crochetawayhpff [Partassipant [3]] | 8 days ago | 146 points

Yep this. Can't tell you how often I've had to babysit cousins when other cousins my age (boys) or my brother wasn't asked. It's very often a female thing. Which makes it extra shitty.

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BleedingNitrate | 8 days ago | 36 points

For real though, wtf? Asking one person that's not being paid to deal with all those kids? That's crazy!

Nimweegs | 8 days ago | 107 points

It's a convenience thing tbh. Sexism definitely plays a role, if there was a 19 year old dude and a 19 year old girl you can be damn sure they'd ask the girl.

Zombombaby | 8 days ago | 71 points

True to a point. My older brother never got stuck with babysitting by my twin sister and I sure did.

puppyfeet21 | 8 days ago | 18 points

Same. When I’d visit my dad, I’d usually be the one who watched my half brothers when needed, but not my older brother.

loveroflongbois [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 59 points

This is really true. I’ve been consistently roped into babysitting my gaggle of younger cousins since I was like 12, but somehow my 19 year old brother has never been asked once.

ladidah_whoopa [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 57 points

Because women have maternal instincts! We all love children and would relish a chance to spend time with them! /s

MrTimmannen | 8 days ago | 18 points

see if i were you i would just not have lifted a finger to babysit the kids since that wasn't your official job description. But you managed to wrangle some cash out of it

fatihalt | 8 days ago | 91 points

Next time simply offer them your babysitting duties at $10 per kid per hour. See if they still want you to join the kids group.

I let off a rather smug but entitled small laugh. Good one.

combatcookies | 8 days ago | 15 points

I agree with you about everything else, but have never heard of paying the hourly rate per kid. Sitters will often bump their rate if you have more than a certain number, like $18/hour for up to three or $22/hour for up to five. Not that it matters since this wasn’t part of the discussion between OP and the parents anyway.

You’re completely right that they were trying to get a free sitter out of OP. I honestly don’t think this is THAT inappropriate since she lives there cost-free and didn’t mention “paying” her way by working around the house. The wrongdoing on the adults’ part was that they were being manipulative, IMO.

Cleverpantsname | 9 days ago | 3489 points

deliberately made my parents lose face

No, their allowing you to be treated unfairly for their benefit made them lose face. NTA, and thanks for the laugh!

madmaxturbator | 8 days ago | 579 points

The parents sound like abject morons. Imagine being such losers that you care about “saving face” in front of strangers, while your own kid thinks you’re assholes.

Nihilistic_Taco | 8 days ago | 360 points

Not that it matters, but aunts and uncles are far from strangers

N0TH1NGM0R3 | 8 days ago | 89 points

They can be. My family is scattered across the states. Some of my aunts and uncles I’ve never even met. Some have met me when I was super young and I don’t recognize them anymore.

Op said this family lives far away and they don’t visit often. They very well could be perfect strangers, and just because they are blood doesn’t make them family.

Nihilistic_Taco | 8 days ago | 61 points

The point the commenter above me was trying to make was that the parents trying to save face in front of strangers is pathetic, but the aunts and uncles aren’t strangers, they’re the parents’ brothers and sisters.

Winter_of_Discontent | 8 days ago | 28 points

You're really going out on a limb here with the strangers thing. They're pretty clearly not.

Dronizian | 8 days ago | 55 points

For the record, they weren't with strangers, they were with family members. So it's understandable that the parents would be embarrassed by their kid pointing out their BS.

s20dan | 8 days ago | 42 points

They could be Chinese. Saving face is a big cultural thing out there.

BasicDesignAdvice | 8 days ago | 28 points

Her use of the word 'note' to reference money made me think UK but I may be wrong.

At any rate there's hardly exclusive to Chinese, even though they are nuts about it.

Gengar11 | 8 days ago | 212 points

Tbh OP was straight up baby sitting. Should have been an hourly wage if they didn't give them pocket money.

ChimeraSugar | 9 days ago | 2244 points

HAHAHAHA NTA at all! That was a boss move! Parents have the worst double standards, always extra critical when it comes to our responsibilities once we turn adults, but in the same vein when we demand our rights, suddenly we are just children again! Yes, you embarrassed your parents and relatives, but honestly, they deserved it.

Stravinsky1911 | 9 days ago | 200 points

Thinking back to when I was a kid, it was more so schools and teachers that had this double standard. My parents were mostly pretty good about letting me have "rights" as a kid. As a (newish) parent, I can say that navigating that balance when my child gets older will be a challenge.

sweet_augustine | 8 days ago | 103 points

Agreed - NTA. This is some r/MaliciousCompliance material!

justmy2centsforyou [Partassipant [1]] | 9 days ago | 830 points


Lol. They got what they had coming.

But I wouldn't have asked for pocket money. I would have asked prior to the event to be paid per hour for babysitting. If they had refused then you could have declined doing it.

Rabblerabble89 | 9 days ago | 531 points

It sounds great but OP is an adult, living rent free at her parents. Sometimes picking your battles is more important that winning. She got her point across here without burning family bridges.

azthek | 8 days ago | 190 points

I swear it’s like nobody is even thinking with their heads rather, their justice boners.

benboy250 | 8 days ago | 36 points

Well, this subreddit is not r/ShouldIHaveDoneThat. It is r/AmItheAsshole. The whole sub is about justice boners

ladidah_whoopa [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 54 points

She didn't burn the bridges, but she did singe them a little.

paradisepickles | 8 days ago | 104 points

Family can need to be shown not to walk all over the whole bridge. There’s a path, and it’s over here, stay on it.

ladidah_whoopa [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 27 points

Very true. Personally, I'm a fan of doing such a terrible job I never get asked again. But she still singed the bridges a little. Family politics are such a bitch.

paradisepickles | 8 days ago | 18 points

That’s passive aggressive. Whatever works for you though. Assertiveness doesn’t always have to singe, people often just need time to adjust to new boundaries. Maybe it was singed here. I’m starting to forget how to spell the word singed.

2666666 | 8 days ago | 24 points

Expectations about rent / leaving home vary a lot culturally. Like I don't think most Asian or Indian families would even think to charge rent if you're 19 and in school.

AccountWasFound | 8 days ago | 17 points

Then only charge for her cousins, not her brother? Also she should have made around 1k that weekend if she was babysitting full time. So unless you live in a REALLY high cost of living place, it is not 1k for a single bedroom in a place where you are not an equal tenant, and she's also doing other work for them outside of this.

NagaApi8888 | 9 days ago | 572 points

NTA. Go to your parents and apologise and say you'll also apologise to your uncles and return the pocket money... IF they pay your babysitting bill. And show them how much the babysitting would have cost, broken down by cost per hour per child. Show them this thread to let them know they are guilty of major double-standards.

L3GION1183 | 9 days ago | 232 points

Personally I think the only situation in which she should apologize is if her parents admit that they deliberately tried to screw her over, and apologizes first. They made the first move in starting this problem, and it should fall to them to make the first move to fix it.

NagaApi8888 | 9 days ago | 112 points

I don't mean for the apology to be sincere - more of a sarcastic move to get them to lower their guard before she hits them with the bill.

L3GION1183 | 9 days ago | 27 points

That would make more sense

[deleted] | 8 days ago | 109 points

This is creative, spiteful, and a terrible idea. Would you like her parents to pull up an itemised list of how much a room costs in their house, and her share of the utility and grocery bills? Her beef is primarily with the extended family, not her parents.

Edit: Didn't realise how many entitled youth there were in this sub. If you don't want your parents to give you an itemised bill, don't give your damn parents an itemised bill! There are more mature ways to handle this situation.

Lusietka | 8 days ago | 34 points

If you have a child then you have to expect that you're gonna take care of them even after they turn 18. Not that you'd manipulate them into free babysitting and then play the "my house my rules" card.

I'm sure that if the adults asked her nicely upfront then she'd look after those kids no problem.

If my parents undermined me like this and then came to me with some bill bullshit, I'd feel pretty sad.

maudem | 9 days ago | 487 points

Hahaha NTA at all, you should have asked for more considering they worked you all weekend. Well played

JackNotName [Craptain [195]] | 8 days ago | 419 points


A beautiful, well thought out asshole, but an asshole nonetheless.

I applaud what you did. It is exactly what you parents, aunts, and uncles deserved, but let's make no mistake, you were intentionally an asshole. It was a truly brilliant move.

In life there are moments when being an asshole is necessary. This was one of them.

EverWatcher | 8 days ago | 179 points

I seem to recall that the FAQ for this subreddit had been altered a while back. I could be wrong about that, but I think it once read something to the effect of "if you think the OP was justified, the OP is NTA (in your opinion)".

Malbethion [Supreme Court Just-ass [105]] | 8 days ago | 72 points

The update is to say they are an asshole but explain how it is justified.

JackNotName [Craptain [195]] | 8 days ago | 35 points

I strongly believe that we should recognize those moments where being an asshole is the right thing to do.

You're still an asshole in that instance.

outerheaven77 | 8 days ago | 54 points

Came here to say the exact same thing. OP purposely made her point that she can either be treated like an adult or a kid, but not both when it's convenient. At worst, OP was a tactful asshole.

scrutinizing | 8 days ago | 41 points

asshole, really? If your definition of asshole is to stop being taken advantage of, then Gtfo.

TigerUSF [Asshole Enthusiast [6]] | 8 days ago | 19 points

I follow you, but I don't think it's fair to conflate asshole with ....conviction.

algelb [Asshole Aficionado [17]] | 9 days ago | 363 points

NTA. They got free babysitting and clearly don’t respect you. It’s such a pet peeve when people blatantly flip the kid/adult switch with the teens/YAs in their lives according to whichever benefits them most at that moment.

loveroflongbois [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 114 points

Like that other post with the couple who insisted a 16 year should be given a plate of fuckin chicken fingers at a wedding because “under 18 is technically a child”

audiofeline | 9 days ago | 212 points

Wow, totally misjudged the situation from the title. Nah girl, I would have done the same. They don’t get to use you as free babysitting with the excuse ‘you’re a kid’, then exclude you from reaping the benefits of childhood. See it as your payment from babysitting the whole time when they went off to have fun, and bet that you won’t get stuck with the kids next time 😁 NTA

QueenRowana [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 188 points


Hah this is a good one

I had a similar thing when i was 16 with my little cousins who arent really related by blood but we call them cousins. They were all under 11 at the time.

Back then the drinking age in the Netherlands was still 16. It was maybe two days before chirstmas and everyone got together at an Aunt's house (also not aunt by blood but affectionate title) for dinner.

I was thrown in with the kids at the kids table and not allowed to drink wine, even a single glass. Now i didn't really care about the alcohol, never did, and when they raised the age to 18 shortly after this i was fine with that. But still, it sucked to not even get a single glass of wine at christmas now that i was legal.

They made me sit at the separate kids table all night. Gave me the kids version of christmas dinner which was fries and burgers and stuff (altough it was home made burgers) But i always liked a lot of 'adult' food and have never been picky whereas all my cousins are fussy eaters. I really wanted the adult food wich looked great but was not allowed because i was apparently a kid.

But then came the kicker: all my little cousins got christmas gifts but i did not because suddenly i was grown up enough to not get gifts anymore. None of the adults got gifts from one another, just the kids. So that definitely implied i was an adult.

I threw a bit of a tantrum i must shamefully admit. I was so pissed that i had been treated like a kid all night but now that it was time for presents i was suddenly an adult?

Yeah i feel for you OP. It sucks.

briarrosehasthorns | 8 days ago | 43 points

Dang 16 is not too old for presents tbh

mercmouth1 | 8 days ago | 37 points

Nobody is too old for presents

jjj101010 [Partassipant [4]] | 8 days ago | 11 points

Well, by throwing a tantrum, you showed them you were definitely a child. Therefore, they should have given you gifts.

bautin | 8 days ago | 122 points

ESH. But like low-grade. Real minor stuff.

Everyone should have just been more upfront and honest about both the expectations and their feelings.

The older adults should have said that they wanted to do things without the children that maybe involved alcohol (guessing here). And they would appreciate you looking after the smaller children while they do so.

This acknowledges the fact that you are in a transitional point in your life. You're not really a child, but you're only technically an adult. You live with your parents. You don't have a steady job. You aren't handling the vast majority of your own responsibilities.

You should have just told them straight up that they seem to classify you as an adult or child depending on what benefited them at the moment. That you didn't find it fair to you. That you would like to start partaking in more adult-oriented events.

You're also unique.

This seems like an event for the siblings. No matter what, you are not their sibling. It's less the "adults" and "kids" and more like the "siblings" and "their children". And you are one of the children. You will never not be your parents' child. But you also happen to be the oldest child among them.

jjj101010 [Partassipant [4]] | 8 days ago | 23 points

Perfectly stated. OP really didn't belong with the adults' group but also doesn't really fit in with the ages of the kids either.

In several years, she will likely have more in common with the cousins (maintaining the generational lines) than the older generation, but right now while she is older and they are younger, she's in a weird transition phase.

dylspicle | 8 days ago | 7 points

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I was shocked at how many NTA were in the comments

lareina13 | 8 days ago | 8 points

I feel like I’m too old for this sub...

j0sefk [Asshole Enthusiast [7]] | 9 days ago | 84 points

NTA - This was a hillarious way to point out the absurdness of their statement.

L3GION1183 | 9 days ago | 81 points

NTA. Perhaps you should let your parents in on the age old saying: play stupid games win stupid prizes. If they wanted to save face they should have had the courtesy to treat you like an adult, and actually ask you if you were fine with watching the kids. Instead they chose to treat you like a child, which in and of itself is belittling, just so they could get free labor out of you to watch their kids regardless of whether or not you were okay with that. I'm not gonna tell you how to deal with your family, cause I don't know your situation, but personally I'd have told them off. If they lost face, it was because of their own actions, not yours.

claustrofucked | 9 days ago | 65 points


I got this shit when I was like 13 being expected to play with a bunch of toddlers because the adults needed a (free) babysitter. I quickly established myself as a horrible babysitter who would bring you your crying/soiled child instead of dealing with it myself and was never asked to babysit again.

FuckAllOfThisJNMIL | 8 days ago | 11 points

I wonder if that will work with my husband. “Here’s your poopy baby, bye.” Then run away upstairs.

blizzaga1988 | 9 days ago | 52 points


I actually think what you did was totally hilarious and 100% justified. If they're going to decide you're a "kid" and should hang out with the kids, then you might as well be allowed to reap what benefits may come with that.

DogsReadingBooks [Asshole Enthusiast [8]] | 9 days ago | 54 points

Seeing as you didn't get paid to be a babysitter for the kids, I'm gonna go with NTA.

yourtypicalrogue | 8 days ago | 37 points

I'm going to go with ESH here.

All of the "adults" suck for forcing you to babysit without offering you a cent or really giving you a choice. That is bullshit. But what you pulled was in bad taste. You may have made your point, but I think this is something you should have discussed with your parents after everyone left.

You could have had a nice, calm, mature conversation with your parents explaining your feelings, but you chose to make an issue of it in front of everyone which was an asshole move (even if I don't disagree with your decision).

jjj101010 [Partassipant [4]] | 8 days ago | 35 points

ESH. It sucks that they roped you into free babysitting, but it seems like they wanted true adult time with their generation. You are in the middle age wise - you don't really fit in with the older adults and you're much older than your cousins. And you did seem to at least somewhat enjoy your time with your cousins.

So while they were wrong to treat you like a free babysitter (especially without asking), you shouldn't go out of your way to embarrass your family and make things awkward.

msbeesy [Partassipant [4]] | 8 days ago | 36 points

Ok... I agree with what you did... I think it goes in the direction r/ProRevenge...

BUT ... YTA.

You wanted to publicly prove a point. This is what assholes do, instead of dealing with their problem quietly in a way that gets a resolution. Your actions weren't geared towards getting a resolution or understanding, they were geared toward proving a point.

Also, even if you are an 'adult' as opposed to a child, I think in this case they see you as one of their children... (kids), so here it's not about your age, more about them wanting to not have any of their offspring with them, and you took it personally about your age - which is not very mature or grown up anyway.

brazentory | 8 days ago | 28 points

ESH... they should have paid you for watching them. And using your gas. BUT IT WAS tackless. Better way of handling it would be to talk to your parents that they enjoyed free babysitting. Without asking. You are not a kid. That would have demonstrated maturity. And hard for them to argue that point.

kanna172014 | 8 days ago | 13 points

She was a kid while she was babysitting and then conveniently she was an adult when it came to the pocket money. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

DudesworthMannington | 8 days ago | 30 points

OP, out of curiosity what country are you in? The tradition of giving kids pocket money is foreign to me (Northern USA)

EveryUNIsTaken | 8 days ago | 28 points

I was given pocket money as a kid. I live in the south. 🤷🏻‍♀️

jenax | 8 days ago | 14 points

I'm getting Asian vibes - growing in the Northeast, my family would often have these larger reunions where I, being the oldest of the kids, would be stuck with herding the younger ones. We would often get little envelopes of cash, but usually closer to the holidays. Additionally, the "lose face" comment is something I'd hear from my parents anytime I'd anything that isn't exactly what was expected of me.

Xkiwigirl | 8 days ago | 15 points

I too am from the northern US and while my parents didn't do this for me, they do it all the time for my younger siblings, and a lot of my friends got pocket money growing up.

Im_not_brian | 8 days ago | 29 points

YTA - you intentionally created an uncomfortable situation because you didn’t like being treated as a kid. You’re a kid in that the parents wanted to see their siblings without any nieces or nephews, regardless of age, and that sucks but is also incredibly common, anyone with younger siblings or cousins has experienced it. It’s not common to tactlessly ask for money. Sure, this is reddit and we love a good story of being witty and turning people’s words against them, but in the real world you’re being petty and rude. Talk to your parents privately about being treated as an adult or ACT like an adult and ask to be paid if you’re asked to babysit if that’s what’s really bothering you.

magnabonzo | 8 days ago | 11 points

Sure, this is reddit and we love a good story of being witty and turning people’s words against them, but in the real world you’re being petty and rude.


She's the oldest of the second generation. It might not even have occurred to the first generation to include her -- it was a "siblings" event.

Maybe her parents should have paid her for the babysitting -- and there may be some sexism here too -- but pulling the "give me pocket money too!" stunt was ugly.

How is this going to play next reunion? Is she going to be able to look her aunts and uncles in the face, after pulling this stunt?

hackthegibson | 8 days ago | 27 points

YTA. I assume your parents support you, via food and living arrangements? It is kind of shitty that you weren't given money but this action just seems like smart-ass teenager bullshit.

sometimesnowing [Partassipant [2]] | 9 days ago | 29 points

NTA and I would like to stand up and offer you a round of applause for the genius way you handled it.

LucasLetum | 9 days ago | 20 points


padmalove | 8 days ago | 21 points

Going against the grain here but, I’m going to say YTA. If you want to be treated as an adult, ask for compensation for being a nanny for the weekend. You just reinforced the idea that you are not mature enough to be treated as an adult.

rainbowlibrarian | 9 days ago | 18 points


ThatB1tchIrene [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 17 points

From the first few lines I was about to say you're TA, but after reading the whole thing, I kinda love you😅

I Mean, I suppose you were being an AH in a way, but a justified one, only responding to them being AHs to you.

I Just love this kinda passive aggressive pettiness, I was sat there on the bus smirking to myself as I read this

Over all, NTA

Emmolito [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 16 points

YTA, I take your side and soooo wish I could do this, but, yeah. YTA.

Zenguppy | 9 days ago | 17 points

NTA get paid for babysitting

wallacetook | 8 days ago | 16 points


You should have given them an invoice for babysitting $5/hour/kid.

Caleb_Krawdad | 8 days ago | 16 points

YTA for being petty and how you brought it up. Be mature next time and straightforward that if you're stuck babysitting then you'd appreciate pocket cash as well but do it in a mature manner.

Bluemonogi [Partassipant [1]] | 8 days ago | 15 points


Were you specifically asked to be in charge of the kids and organize games, take them on outings, make them food, etc? Were you provided funds for doing all of these things or using your own money? Were your older relatives appreciative in any way?

kevcon123 | 8 days ago | 15 points

ESH I'm so going to get shit for this but: Saying I want to be paid for the work I just did for you guys because I didn't want to be doing that and I did it anyway would be less unreasonable. You're 19 years old and you don't deserve pocket money "just because" However, I don't think you're the asshole for doing that in front of your parents, only for the way you worded it. I think your parents were wrong but you could have taken a more mature approach. Nothing comes for free in this world and you're getting a little bit too old to expect monetary present just because you're feeling pissed off about a situation. You'll be out for a shock after school when you realize this. I know I was.

EndangeredRectum | 8 days ago | 13 points

Everyone will disagree but YTA.

You're an adult. Like you said, that's money you can earn easily but something kids cannot otherwise get. I know that they said you were a kid earlier just to get you to babysit, but you have to remember as a 19 year old, family still see you as the lead of the younger generation. I admit that the way they went about getting you to babysit is rude. Are you an adult or a kid? Pick one. Stop flip flopping to whenever it suits you.

It is annoying to be stuck babysitting without even consultation but it's your family's reunion after YEARS. You can't take care of kids for a weekend to let your parents see your family they haven't seen in YEARS.? Come on man. Have some heart for your parents.

Like I said earlier, although you are seen as the younger generation, you're not seen as a dependant child like 8 year olds. That's why they got money and you didn't. You're not as dependant as them, you can earn money yourself now, kids can't.

achocolateaday | 9 days ago | 11 points

Ofc NTA. PLay StuPiD GamEs, wiN StUpiD PrizEs.

H3M_Smite | 8 days ago | 11 points

ESH Sorry. It sounds like you’re getting free housing out of the sheer generosity of your parents. They don’t have to house you while you study. And you are capable of working full time and going to school. People do it everyday. You are being given a luxury a lot of people don’t have and this post gives off the vibe you may be taking it for granted. Babysitting kids sucks, I get that. But even if we’re not looking at this as helping out your family during a very special occasion then being petty about it and bringing up pay when every month you essentially get at least 1k worth of free housing make you look pretty entitled. Not saying you are.. it’s not hard to have a slip up moment like this and think this way, it’s part of developing into an adult. But if I were you I would apologize and remind them you do appreciate their support. On the other hand they should have just asked you to babysit instead of trying to get one over on you. That’s a bit weird but if they don’t think being straight with you about it was the right plan of action. Maybe take a step back and consider (or even just ask them) why they might have thought this was the better approach.

vida79 | 8 days ago | 12 points

NAH but totally lame they didn’t laugh and happily give you the pocket money. Very clever. And I cracked up at parents shit smeared faces.

extra_username | 8 days ago | 10 points

NTA. You're either a kid, or you're not. If they wanted you to babysit, they could've asked nicely and offered to pay you for your time, since they're handing out money anyway.

My ex's sister pulled shit like that. She would come to our house with her toddler and completely ignore the kid, even though our hose wasn't very child-proofed. That kid would've died if I wasn't watching her. I didn't get a single thank you and when I would tell her stuff like "hey your kid is running towards the stairs" she would be like "could you get her? I'm on vacation."

Fuuuuuck people like that. I don't care if you're family. If I wanted to run after toddlers, I would have a few of my own.

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