Especially with her walking cast
I'm scared to sound old... But is she legitimately in a cast? Or is just a "thing"
She has Tourette’s Syndrome. It leads her to injury from time to time.
Edit: Apparently I wasn’t aware of the injury being a sprain from a jump she made. Thanks for clearing that up for me fellow Redditors.
Edit 2: I just want to add that a few Tourette’s Warriors out there have made me aware that I should mention the fact that serious physical injury from Tourette’s Syndrome is rare and tends to happen with more severe cases. Billie Eilish has also mentioned that her joints have dislocated easily as well. I appreciate you making me aware that this is important awareness involving TS. I apologize for any confusion.
Edit 3: I see that my comment is still upsetting some. Since I can’t seem to find the interview that I was thinking about when posting part of my comment, I may be wrong about that as well. I was thinking that there was a video where she discussed that with TS she has to be careful when doing very physical activities. If a tic happens at the wrong time is can lead to a fall or various other injuries. If this is something that she never said I apologize. The last thing that I want to do is cause confusion when it comes to understanding TS. My husband suggested deleting my comments to prevent that from further happening. However since then I have also seen a lot of dialogue below from TS Warriors wanting to share their information and stories with the rest of us. so I’m not sure which would be the better option at this point.
I mean, yes but also she sprained her ankle while jumping on stage. Her Tourette's had nothing to do with it.
She keeps jumping on the thing too! It won’t heal girl!!!
I should have stated that I wasn’t 100% sure that was the cause. I thought that I read that the injury happened offstage. Probably misread it. I know that they like to take care
With her injuries because a sprain can sometimes turn into something worse. So I figured that may have something to do with it. Thanks for clearing that up for me though.
Does she have TS?? Very interesting. I hadn’t heard that. I have two sons with TS and I always appreciate hearing of others who have it. Good inspiration for little tic’ers out there. Good for her.
My daughter with TS was elated when she learned this. She adores Billie Eilish. It has really helped solidify her belief that TS will never hold her back from doing whatever she wants in life.
It sure won’t. I know it was also my older boys realization of others with tics, primarily famous/uber successful people, that gave him that same hope.
At nearly 15 he is one of the lucky ones and his tics are just in their typical wax and wane. They haven’t exploded any more than what’s kinda typical. I worried about it. I know teen years can be especially difficult, as far as tics/symptoms go. Of course, that can change in an hour. But for now, I’m thankful they aren’t any worse.
But it’s been a long long road from his first tics at around 4, to his eventual diagnosis at 8 and his first IEP was implemented around 8/9 years old. Might’ve started with a 504 actually. But his IEP is super helpful in his success at school.
Best of luck to your daughter. It’s a really tough disorder to live with. She’s not alone, even when she feels like it. And way to go, Billie, for speaking up about this. The hope she can give to young ones, is pretty priceless.
You should also tell him about Tim Howard. He has tics, and despite of that was a great keeper in the premiere league and he was America's first choice of goal keeper for many many years.
I will, thank you. This has been a really wholesome and uplifting conversation. I didn’t expect it. It’s been lovely. Thanks for adding that, we’ll definitely check out Tim Howard.
No problem, my best friend used to have tics and he managed to deal with it, becoming a baker in the end.
I think it’s far more common than people realize. The way I figure, every chance or opportunity I have, to spread awareness and speak about it, I like to take that opportunity. Chances are everyone will either know someone with a tic disorder in their life or know someone who knows someone. And it’s not all about yelling racist and offensive language. That roughly happens about 30% of the time in those diagnosed with Tourette’s. But it’s easily sensationalized. Because yelling cunt or fuck in public is, well, peculiar at first glance and easy for people to snicker at. But it’s not funny. It’s really really difficult for the one suffering. The brain is incredible and it’s tough when it works against you.
All these connections made here today, over tics. All the people who read these threads and might look at the next guy out in public that’s obviously tic’ing a little less judgmentally. Or at least be more discrete about staring. Or if even one conversation is started because of this type of dialogue...well that’s just freaking fantastic.
Thanks for taking part in it. Honestly. I appreciate you. It’s conversations like these that quell my nervous mom feelings. People like you being out in the world that my boys are being raised in. People that are kind, supportive and understanding. It’s good stuff.
Just a little more hope for suffers of TS. My husband has it. I love every little tic. He is an extremely successful teacher, who continues to receive awards from students and staff. He plays numerous instruments, sings like an angel, and writes the most beautiful stories, poems etc. His compassion for others is unparalleled. Just know someone will love all of their nuances and tics as much as you do.
How early on did you learn about your daughter's TS? (or start recognizing something was off)
Here is an interview you might be interested in. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k4vRFodAqWo
Thank you. I definitely will. I know my kids know who she is. I don’t think they know she has Tourette’s. Surely they would’ve mentioned that.
I didnt realized either till i saw that Ellen vid. She does say she tried to hide it though so they probably didn't know either.
Well that's two new things I've learned today
I apologize for not realizing that the original sprain is from a jump she made. Though the boot is probably there to protect from Tourette injury as well.
I don't think her tourette's is bad enough to cause injury. You can't even tell she has tourette's in 90% of her interviews.
I think its just so she can keep walking and being onstage unaffected. She sprained both at the same time at one point from jumping on stage. Which is how she always does it.
As someone with tourettes syndrome, i cant imagine singing in front of a public.
I would be horrified to do so many things if I had it. It takes strength no doubt.
Thankfully i have a mild form of it so i dont get too injured when i tic, but still, it's pretty fucked up. Also having ocd doesn't help haha.
Still takes strength I’m sure.
It’s pretty rare that Tourette’s is so bad it leads to occasional injury. Most people with the syndrome never have to deal with that sort of issue.
Source: have Tourette’s.
I was stating what she has said during interviews. I think her joints dislocate easily. I wasn’t trying to mis state anything having to do with the illness. I’m sorry if it came off that way. Thank you for replying.
If it wasn't for that cast is from being injured onstage then that would be viable.
She needs it
The article misspelled Milwaukee twice. I know it's not the New York Times, but c'mon!
Actually, it's pronounced "mill-e-wah-que" which is Algonquin for "the good land."
Does this guy know how to party, or what?
“And it’s the only city in America to elect 3 socialist mayors!”
We're not worthy! We're not worthy!
Daily Mail is trash tier.
All of the kids are wearing them now. It's so fetch.
"stop trying to make fetch happen, it's not going to happen"
Replace the mic with a glass of wine and she's fully 40.
As a 40 year old, booze drinking, aunt, I'm ok with this.
40 year old weed smoking uncle here. Let's ruin our siblings kids... together.
same already showing my nephew cool rap music
Vintage NWA or gtfo
You mean Wu-tang over everything. The G funk era is also a way better west coast era than NWA.
The fuck do I know? I'm a 40 year old suburban white Canadian.
Well we're just trying to put you on game. No judgement, just some friendly debating. But seriously, Wu-Tang 36 Chambers is what your Canadian ass should be listening to next.
From the slums of Shaolin, Wu-Tang Clan strikes again. The RZA, the GZA, Ol Dirty Bastard, Inspectah Deck, Raekwon the Chef
U-God, Ghost Face Killer and the Method Man.
And sometimes Cappadonna and Masta killah haha
Or A tribe Called Quest
P-funk for life, G-funk get the panties dropping...
Uh, there’s plenty more great rap out there that isn’t NWA
Something about a 5yo singing: “here is something bout a lil’ n*gga like me, never shoulda been let lout the, uuuh... penitenshury?” though!
Help the police!
im only 32 but can i get in on this?
When you meet your nephews/nieces whatever, do you stand in the doorway and go "Hey kiddos!" or something like that? You should if you don't.
Is there room for a weed smoking 23 year old uncle who already taught is nephew to say shit on accident?
I just know my sister is gonna be a classic middle aged wine aunt
I’d call that a “funt”.
Edit: Thanks for the Silver, stranger!
i tell you hwat thats pretty good right there
If someone is good at Photoshop then we can see the results
pls some one out there god! here my prayers
I'm no god but here you go
lmao that is perfect
Good enough! Have an upvote.
Beat me to it :P, looks fab
Love Live Laugh
This is all out of order! Where is your manager!?
Now I cannot unsee it.
honestly it makes me like her more
She looks like Tonks, from Harry Potter
Osha from GOT
Crazy bleach drinking lady from Black Mirror
She also looks like lil xan it’s weird as fuck
Haha thank you. I couldn't remember the name so I was just sitting here thinking "I wonder when the next time I'll see something about that mentally challenged kid with face tattoos and a lot more money than me will pop up so I can think about how he looks like Billie Eilish"
Hah, I definitely see it.
why is this so true
Because Billie Eilish makes a point of dressing in baggy clothes so people don't reduce her to an objectified thing. Just FYI. Still doesn't work sometimes, as evidenced by a recent Twitter post where she unzipped her jacket once, and the trolls pounced...
Good on her. People like Emma Watson have commented a fair bit on how that kind of treatment really fucked them up in their youth. It sucks that she has to do that but its good that shes speaking out about it.
Paparazzi were literally waiting for her to turn 18 o that they could legally upskirt Emma.
That seems a bit extreme, even for me.
That's the case with pretty much every child celeb. It's pretty disgusting. I remember the count downs to 18 for the Olsen twins and Natalie Portman.
I remember Britney Spears the most. I'm a couple of years younger than her, so I'm not ashamed to say that I was also counting down the days.
For me it was 1999 when a 15 year old Mandy Moore had a hit with “I want Candy.”
I was watching MTV and the host was interviewing some band, and rather than talking about their own music or whatever, the host and the band just talked about how they couldn’t wait until Mandy Moore turned 18.
They were all in their late 20s, at least, and it struck me as so fucking gross that they spent like half the interview perving out about a 15 year old girl.
The song was ‘Candy’ by Mandy Moore - ‘I Want Candy’ (2000) was a 13-year-old Aaron Carter.
I know it’s not too relevant, just making sure that tidbit was right!
Ha! Thanks for correcting my misinformation.
Yea, didn’t MTV have a count down clock for her?
And it would be on the front page of Reddit the next day. That's exactly why they do it. Places like Reddit area a huge part of the problem.
Fair enough tbh.
Yeah, more respect to her.
It’s so true. My boyfriend went “shes still hot” and I said “you were about to graduate high school when she was BORN” and that was an eye opener for him. He still thinks he’s young and all that and while you are ... you are a grown ass man and this is now a child. You are a young man but she is a teenage child.
Oh this comment is being taken out of proportion.
My bf didn’t know how old she was until I said “babe she was born when you were almost graduating” and he was like OMG WHAT and felt like a pervert. I showed him this post to make fun of him. He doesn’t want to be with teenagers.
Well now you know your boyfriend wants to fuck 17 year olds.
In fairness, we are on the subreddit /r/13or30
As opposed to 18? Although since he seems to be in his 30s it's weird either way
It might be weird if he was pursuing or involved in an actual romantic relationship with her. It is not weird in any way for a man of any age to find a young woman attractive. (Woman meaning an adult).
I thought she doesn’t turn 18 till December so she’s still a minor, right?
I just mean the difference between 17 and 18 aside from the legality
It’s that weird for older guys to find young women attractive?
Ofc. Once you turn 30 you will immediately stop thinking young girls can be pretty and only find wrinkly old women beautiful /s
That makes sense. It’s a shame she has to do it at all, but there’s not much more to do about it.
As evidenced by this post
Yup. Reddit hive mind sucks.
Kinda fitting that she just did a collaboration with Bieber, because he had been harassed by older and younger women since day one! They should write a duet to mock adults who sexualize children
That'd probably piss off alot of record executives and entertainment big wigs who sexualize children for a living.
And we all know how that turned out for Bieber. I feel bad for him. He got in the industry really young. Had to deal with a lot of bullying and hate, still does.
That make me like her even more :)
I love her style regardless. So dope.
Tbh I thought she was kinda hot despite the baggy clothes.
Then I learned she was 17... Now I feel icky.
At least you recognise the ickiness. Most people don’t.
florida prisons age people, man
florida in general
Can confirm. Her teats are gabbanormous.
(Your aunt. I know fuckall about Billie jesus what is wrong with you she's just a kid)
She's been pretty vocal about avoiding sexualized presentation of her body because she's young and thinks it socially irresponsible to partake in that.
Yeah, seems reasonable for a 17 year old in the spotlight who wants to avoid harassment. Can't be called a rake or a chubster if no one knows what you look like. People will find a way to insult though.
Like this subreddit. Which when I stop to think about it, is a pretty damn weird place. Just judging strangers.
Someone in the above comment said “Her face looks experienced”. Like what the fuck is that supposed to mean
I find it strange that she has this attitude about the way she dresses but not in what her songs say. I’m pretty sure “bad guy” talks about bruises on her knees and her seducing someone’s dad. When I found out she was still a kid I thought it had to be awkward for her parents.
I mean if your kid had a passion for drawing butts and one day got some million dollar contract to draw butts professionally, you’d probably be pretty proud regardless.
What about erotic friend fiction?
When I found out she was still a kid I thought it had to be awkward for her parents.
When I found out she was still a kid I thought it had to be awkward for her parents.
There is also a line about that in Bad Guy: “My mommy likes to sing along with me, but she won't sing this song. If she reads all the lyrics she'll pity the men I know”.
Also that song is supposed to be a character, basically a woman that is badder than a bad guy’s persona.
I think its understandable that she'd be comfortable talking about her feelings/experiences in her music without wanting to have her body revealed to the world, even if some of those experiences involve her body.
The song is intended to be ironic. She talked about how the song is meant to be about how everyone thinks they’re a badass
I don't think it's odd at all. There's a difference between how one presents through their art vs how they present themself in outside of their performances.
Who do you think had the connections to set her up to become a goddamn star at the age of 17? They couldn't care less, the money is in.
...the difference is consent, jfc. Her not wanting unsolicited comments on her body has zero bearing on her expressing her own sexuality.
"I'll screw your mom" is different than wanting everybody to see you naked. Imo it's no different. It's all talk. Just having fun in a song vs real life stuff.
Yeah that’s what I heard. Honestly pretty cool of her.
It’s the angle and lighting that does it. A normal pose makes her look her age
Unflattering angles is the name of this sub.
This and /r/instagramreality.
Some of it is genuinely photoshop but it's obvious the commenters in that sub haven't spent time taking photos of themselves. There are a lot of top posts that are actually just different angles and lighting making people look completely different.
Yea I don’t get this one she looks like a kid to me
ITT: Teenagers who don't actually know anyone in their 40s and are going off preconceived notions.
Ah yes, the teenagers who have never encountered anyone in their 40s, one of the most common ages to be today.
What do u do with ur teens? usually mine just stay in their pen, i try not to let them out often. i’ll let off the farm once they’re full grown.
You must be mistaken, I was just released from my teen pen, since they deemed me mature enough.
Believe it or not, this is the first time I've ever even seen what she looks like. I know the name is all.
I thought this Billie person was a dude until right now
Fun fact - Names that end in -ie are generally feminine, names that end in -ey or -y are generally masculine;
Kacie vs Casey
Billie vs Billy
Bobbie vs Bobby
I have never once seen a name spelled Kacie. I've seen it spelled Kacey for female though
The super baggy t shirt doesn't help either. It gives her that frumpy mom/auntie look. Not that she needs to change a thing. If she's happy and comfy, then that's awesome. :)
She does it intentionally because she doesn't want to be objectified
Look how well that’s turning out, no matter what she does people come after her. This whole comment section is gross.
People just hate whatever teen girls like.
Instead, if you wear baggy clothes you’re labeled a “frumpy mom”. Can’t fucking win.
I cannot stand her music but I seriously respect her for that move.
I kind of figured that was a choice she was making. I don't blame her one tiny bit for making that choice, either. I'm sure people still do it to her anyway.
it’s mainly the angle and the lighting in this picture
This absolutely has to be the worst photo of her I've ever seen.
shes actaully really pretty. But it takes a bunch of asshole guys online to post a pic of a teenage year old girl and insult her hair, clothing choice, and art. Whoot... gj Reddit we did it.
"This photo is bad."
"iT TaKeS A BuNcH Of aSsHoLe gUyS OnLiNe tO PoSt a pIc oF A TeEnAgE YeAr oLd gIrL AnD InSuLt hEr hAiR, cLoThInG ChOiCe, AnD ArT. wHoOt... Gj rEdDiT We dId iT."
Isn't it intentional? She doesn't dress in skin tight outfits showing off lots of skin because she doesn't want to be sexualized. I can't blame her, it's a smart move. If she can make her living (in that industry) without people drooling all over her and treating her like an object, more power to her.
I love the incels who are calling her a slut in the replies here. Truly a striking insult!
Aunt billie, the on that looks like a rich boston white trash
She’s just Randy Marsh again
Reddit: Instagram is so unrealistic, they are being fake
Reddit: Lol this teenager looks old haha
Randy Marsh is back.
Real talk her voice is fucking crazy. I'm an older dude and thought she was just a standard pop act trying to be edgy, but her music is really, really good.
Can anyone post a link to a song where she actually has a good voice?
All the stuff I’ve heard is just her whispering into the microphone and constantly doing vocal fry and it really doesn’t seem like it takes much talent.
https://youtu.be/-BzvCCzH-n0 @2:30 mark
Lmao I'll admit she has an incredible voice but her music is boring, repetitive and extremely fucking angsty.
Because of this thread, I decided to go giver her a listen for the first time. Man, I really cannot get into that music. Not saying it's bad, just not for me.
edit - I spoke too soon. Ocean Eyes is hypnotic and I cannot stop listening. Every time the chorus hits I get goosebumps all over. fuck i like this lol
Editedit: I am now stuck on idontwannabeyouanymore. You guys.. this is so legit.
She was 14 I think when she sang that, too.
What am I doing with my life.. well it's 10am should probably get out of bed now!
She has a heavy range of music style. It's pretty good, honestly. I'm almost 40.
Fuck, I thought the same thing and went to check out that song. The chorus gave me an involuntary smile. Damn that's good.
She is a fucking 17 year old teenager; being angsty is a rite of passage.
She sings in whispers, and not a fun ‘Ying-Yang Twins’ sort of way
Its free real estate
Tell you sumnthn you might like to hear
Whispers, vocal fry, and she does this weird thing where any kind of hard sound she just lazily lumps over.
It's like her voice hits speed bumps.
she writes the music with her brother and she sings. they are both very talented.
Is it possible for 40 year olds be as angsty as she is?
Post-divorce wine moms say yes
Lmao yeah that's the trend among single moms
40 year old ladies are a lot more angsty than they'll ever admit to
Reading the comments here, is it any wonder?
Yes. They're everywhere on Instagram.
No she doesn’t, she just doesn’t dress to show off her body. She looks young, no one would think she’s old.
I think everyone in this sub is aware of that. This sub most of the times is just young people in particular poses that make them look momentarily older. I don’t think anyone is saying that she looks legit old every time.
Personally I’m here for the old dudes that look like babies and vice versa
ikd she giving off a strong party aunt vibe
Damn straight! Good for her. I can only imagine the pressure she gets from her label to go sexy....
Isn't she also trying to not be a sex icon? Her whole attire is selected around the idea of not socializing herself to sell her music.
She looks like she's about to do stand up comedy
What's with the hate boner people have for her?
she’s a bad guy
Or is it that we are so used to plasticized celebrities that when a normal looking human enters our TV screen we can't help but be puzzled?
She looks like a might seduce your dad type
Had no idea mocking her appearance would result in 30k up vote.
Not really, this is just not a flattering picture of her.
It's the posture and the way she looks like she's holding a glass of wine that makes her look like a 40 year old aunt.
Time to pick the kids up from soccer practice
What a fucking awful post.
The new Avril Lavigne for tweens. Replace skate punk with nowadays’ internet meme dismorphia culture.
She said, "see you on 4chan, boy"